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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:14 AM
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Rumor: Zaraqwi is a "ghost"
This note is from a correspondent of mine who used to be part of the Israeli intelligence community;

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Dear Ben,

This is a story I think will be making some play on the internet soon..it was just mentioned on a live report from Baghdad on the BBC world service <10:17 am CET>...

The residents of Fallujah are protesting that the condition set by the Americans and Iraqi PM Allawi that they surrender Zarqawi is an impossible demand because Zarqawi has been dead for almost a year..and if alive..has never been seen in Fallujah

Zarqawi was said to be diabetic..and having an artificial leg..a fact reported in intelligence papers and newspapers before and immediately after the invasion..

Last February insurgents captured who were supposedly 'close to zarqawi'reported that he had  been killed in an American bombing raid of their camp about a week before their capture.

Since that time no official sighting of zarqawi has ever been cited or confirmed....unless you accept it was/is him reading a diatribe against the  west and beheading nick berg on video.

This video , if you remember, shows a masked zarqawi.. wearing a gold wedding ring..absolutely forbidden to wear by devout moslim men...and has been exposed as a fraud by several experts in both anti-terror and forensics...and..if you notice..the subject of Nick Berg and his beheading is rarely mentioned by the Bush crowd....has been dropped like a hot rock by everybody.

Rumours have been circulating for months now that this whole zarqawi thing is an American propaganda ploy..and excuse to use in defense of their bombing civilian wedding parties....among other things..targeting followers of zarqawi.  

I told the visitors in my apt not long ago that this whole thing stinks and will come out into the light of day one day..and they had better get their stories straight..because if there is terror being carried out by 'zarqawi it cannot be the real zarqawi..period.

An impostor thus...a boogie man to scare everyone silly..to justify the otherwise unjustifiable.

Now then..did you ever hear of a unit called the 1st of the 509th?... It is a parallel unit to the 519th intelligence brigade that was/is attached to Abu Ghraib..they sort of work in tandem.

Look up its history and see for yourself how the unit operates...and perhaps you will discover the real zarqawi...

-XXXXXXX
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:21 AM
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1. At this point I don't know what to believe -
unless I see it myself. For this reason i discount more than half of what i hear from the mainstream media. God only knoww where their stories originate.
For all I know this may be a true story.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:28 AM
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2. Demand to hand over Zarqawi just like demand to show the WMD
They cannot provide what does not exist. Their 'refusal' then used as an excuse to make war upon them.

The logic of sick war profiteers continues.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:30 AM
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3. More weirdness.
You will recall the seige of Muqtada al Sadr that lasted from several weeks up to a couple months depending on your definition. During that whole period I did not see one news story about al Zarqawi who had previously been declared enemy #1 by the U.S. command. Did he simply stop blowing up police stations during that time? How nice of him to stop while the coalition was bogged down fighting al Sadr's army! Or perhaps he took a vacation? Business trip? Then about a week or two after the al Sadr seige ended good old al Zarqawi conveniently popped up as the boogie man again. Weird.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:31 AM
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4. He may not be an actual person, but opposition to US policies is very real

There are many, many people, in Iraq and beyond who have a very strong belief that neither their land, its resources, their children, nor they themselves belong to the US. In a way, there are billions of Zarqawis.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:33 AM
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5. Zarqawi even out-Goldstein's bin Laden.
The Berg story disappeared faster than Berg, after the implausible denial that he had ever been in US custody. And the Berg-Moussaoui connection - remember that?

The "1st of the 509th" is "Fort Polk's resident 'bad guys'" - they simulate the enemy in training.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:52 AM
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6. Just so...
I'm note sure how credible this rumor is, but this source has been correct in the past.
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