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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:20 PM
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RNC chairman calls for gag order on military draft discussion...
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:23 PM
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1. keep this kicked
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:28 PM
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30. OK!
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ladybugg33 Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:12 AM
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47. Losing our freedom and our democracy, one Republican at a time.
Seig Heil!
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:23 PM
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2. This from the bastards saying al CIAda will attack if Johnny K is elected.
Fuck them and the fascist tank they rode in on.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:24 PM
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3. How can anyone doubt it? Because W said no draft?
The man is a serial liar.

How can we keep bringing God's Gift Of Freedom to oppressed lands without a bigger, better, more virile army of blond haired, blue eyed,

Oh, never mind. We can't talk about that, either.

Of course there will be a draft if Bush is reelected. Anyone who has the slightest doubt is a total loon.

In 64 they told me if I voted for Goldwater we'd have a war in Vietnam within the year. So I did and they were right.

Don't be fooled again!
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:12 PM
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7. He didn't actually say "no draft"
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 10:13 PM by bain_sidhe
Bush did NOT say unequivocally there would be no draft, he simply invited listeners to make that assumption, based on his statement that "we don't NEED (emphasis mine) a draft." As I just wrote to JMM, this is bu**sh**'s patented method of lying. You can't say he LIED, because he never actually said what he invited you to assume. Gillespie threatened legal action based on, not what the pResident actually said but what he only implied. To assert that any rejection of that "invitation to assume" constitutes "malicious intent and a reckless disregard for the truth" is... well, a fascist kind of mindset (IMHO, of course). It's more than astonishing, as JMM calls it; to me, it's frightening.

**edit to close quote!**
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:02 PM
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28. Here's a direct quote from Bush made before the campaigns started


"So I don't worry about, and people shouldn't
worry about a draft. . . I think we're in good
shape, I really do. And, if not, we'll -- I'll address
the nation
. But I don't see any need to right now."

- G. W. Bush (Source: The Whitehouse)

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13



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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:00 PM
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52. I've been telling draft age folks that if Bu$h is elected he'll draft them
and to tell all their friends.

Because it is true.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:25 PM
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4. We need to write letters
to every news organization demanding an expose' of this topic. Let's get organized, people.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:28 PM
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5. What's equally appalling is that this isn't all over the news!
Jeezus on a Harley, this is bloody awful! Freakin' Third Reich shit!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:30 PM
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6. Simple: They'll just call it "national service" instead.
When it does come, they will just deny that's it's a draft and they'll say it's a "flexible national service" program to "give young people a chance to serve their country in trying times". Don't worry, Rove will focus group this before Baby Bush takes it to the country and the Congress, and by then they will have sufficiently brainwashed enough people to get it enacted into law.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:03 PM
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29. Yup, you got it. It will be called by another name
Just like all of their fascist programs.



"So I don't worry about, and people shouldn't
worry about a draft. . . I think we're in good
shape, I really do. And, if not, we'll -- I'll address
the nation
. But I don't see any need to right now."

- G. W. Bush (Source: The Whitehouse)

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13



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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 04:44 AM
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40. yea, they'll call it a homeland security
force cuz there really is, essentially, no National Guard right now, They're just third class regulars at this point. They'll need a force 2 protect the homeland since the National Guard can't.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:32 PM
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32. hahahahahaha, good one! but why the hell am i laughing! n/t
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 10:16 PM
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8. Kicking this
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 03:36 AM
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9. Again.
:kick:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:02 AM
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10. and again
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:06 AM
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11. and again! n/t
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:16 AM
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12. 4 paragraphs from the tpm
this is about 'Rock the Votes' ads which reference a draft. They haven't ceased yet, because I have already seen one of the ads this a.m. on E! channel.

paragraphs snipped>> This week RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie sent the group a 'cease and desist' letter threatening legal action against the group and raising the possibility of seeking the revocation of the group's status as a tax-exempt 501c3 organization if the group did not cease discussing the draft issue.

Claims that a draft is possible, Gillespie argued, are so ridiculous on their face that the the group could only be acting from 'malicious intent and a reckless disregard for the truth.' (Those, of course, are catchphrases laying the groundwork for legal action.)

Gillespie's rationale for arguing that there is no basis for discussing the possibility of a draft is the say-so of the president. Gillespie quotes him saying, "We don't need the draft. Look, the all-volunteer force is working ..."

That, to Gillespie, is -- quite literally -- the end of the debate.

<<<<<<<<<<<<

wow, only Josh Marshall would be on to this this quickly.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 07:13 AM
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14. Rep. Tim Ryan from Ohio responds -----------------> mp3
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:56 PM
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34. DO NOT miss hearing this! Turn up your volume! Not too high!
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 06:02 PM by Paradise
Click on link in reply # 14!!! Thanks bp!
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liberalcanuck Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 05:44 AM
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42. Awesome. Thank you for posting that. I'd say Mr. Ryan hit all
the points that I would like to hear made more often. Excuse us for being skeptical after every damn lie these assholes have told. I can't think of one piece of legislation or policy that these fuckwads have put in place that has been a net positive for Americans.

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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:45 PM
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33. Then why the hell can't McAulliffe send a 'cease and desist'
letter threatening legal action against Sinclair Broadcasting and raising the possibility of seeking the revocation of its license if it did not cease its illegal intentions, soon to be illegal actions!

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:09 AM
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46. Then he should also demand that they shut down the SBV ads
those ad certainly are so ridiculous on their face that the the group could only be acting from 'malicious intent and a reckless disregard for the truth.'

Too bad the FEC has decided not to hear any complaints until after the election. Sorry Ed.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 07:09 AM
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13. This kind of threat deserves a response.
Contact Rock the Vote to offer support...donate....let them know that RNC is full of sh*t (like they don't know that already)

http://www.rockthevote.com/home.php
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 07:45 AM
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15. You guys think this is fascism? This is good old Americanism
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 07:45 AM by freedomfrog
The most famous gag rule in US History is, of course, the one imposed on antislavery petitions in 1836 by Southern right-wingers and Northerners who either agreed with them or felt it was better to just try to get along.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:05 AM
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16. Wow!
"Claims that a draft is possible, Gillespie argued, are so ridiculous on their face that the the group could only be acting from 'malicious intent and a reckless disregard for the truth.' (Those, of course, are catchphrases laying the groundwork for legal action.)"

'malicious intent and a reckless disregard for the truth.' Sounds like what Bush does in front of the cameras! Maybe we can sue him!

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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:03 PM
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35. Yeah, A Class Action! n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 06:41 AM
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43. More like Low Class Action or No Class Action!
If Shrub is connected!

The draft aged kids will love seeing new places and making new friends in far away places, shortly after the election if Sir Shrubby wins! A dose of the "Green Weenie" will wake the FReepers up for sure!
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:01 AM
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45. A Class Action=subtle reference to a class action lawsuit by the people.nt
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:32 AM
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17. That's odd
I thought we had something in this country called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Welcome to John Asscroft's America
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Mr E McSquare Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:50 PM
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18. Israel.....With friends like these, who needs enemies.
Does anyone remember how a few weeks ago the U.S. shipped five thousand bunker-buster bombs to Israel in the form of a "gift"? What does one suppose Israel is going to do with these bunker busters?????
Attack Iran's nuclear plants!!!!!!
Now lets suppose this does happen. Do you think the rest of the middle east, let alone Russia, China, and the E.U. is going to sit by and do nothing?? At the least, all these middle eastern countries that have been sitting out the Irag war are going to blast on Israel. Does anyone believe the Bushies are gonna stand by while the "holy land" is under attack????? I think not.
So lets say the above scenario is plausible; what are the chances that there will be no draft to help our "friends" in Israel?????
ZERO!!! We will be sending our kids (and maybe my wife for that matter) to defend "the holy land". You can bet on it.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 02:15 PM
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19. D@MN
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 02:29 PM
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20. Gag orders
I would like a gag order on swiftie BS, which--unlike the RTV and JK concerns--can be proven to be lies. And if the swift boat liars have the right to poison the airwaves with their lies, then Rock the Vote and the Kerry campaign certainly have the right to discuss a legitimate issue.

Especially in light of *'s demonstrably false statements that Kerry's health care plan would force everyone into "government health care," and the slander that Kerry would poll other countries to get approval to attack if America was being truly threatened.

They must really be getting desperate--and it *is* a sign of things to come if they are re-installed. I would not put ANYTHING past a lame duck PNAC administration. Not a THING.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 02:55 PM
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21. Kick
:kick:
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Gaffey Duck Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 03:13 PM
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22. I'd rather an open draft...
Hitting people over the head with bad public policy is better than implementing the same policy more subtly through social and economic policies that encourage poor and minorities to join the military at a disproportionately high rate.

Though I'd much rather a reverse draft in which your likelihood of being drafted increases with you or your family's personal income and wealth.
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lfs5 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 05:03 AM
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41. Draft Preferments
My 87-year-old father suggests that any draft begin with the oldest, richest white men and work down from there.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 03:23 PM
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23. kickin'
a scary story all should see
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 03:46 PM
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24. And if we suddenly start bombing Iran......
I can just see the giggling president saying "well, I guess I changed my mind."
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:09 PM
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25. Gillispie is bluffing...and badly. No court would uphold this asinine
claim. Fuck him and his crazier-than-a-shithouse-rat boss.
:grr:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:13 PM
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26. extreme poverty another kind of draft
bush will continue to run the economy into the ground so that there is little choice for poor Americans but to join the military or starve.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 04:58 PM
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27. Hits nail squarely on head...
As one author put it,
sooner or later we will all work for the MIC
in order to have a roof over our heads and
something to eat.
BHN
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:28 PM
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31. can, or, should i say, will he gag us? n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:05 PM
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36. bush tells a different story...
"Bush: "I made it very plain we will not have an all-volunteer army."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2500347
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:09 PM
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37. I saved this from an earlier DU thread
It is an excellent explanation of why there does appear to be plans for a draft if Bush is re-(s)elected, complete with source links for info. I wish I also saved who posted it.

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BUSH ’04 = DRAFT ’05 SPECIAL ALERT

NOTE:THIS IS NOT THE RANGEL BILL. THIS IS NEW! THIS IS THE BUSH GOP PLAN TO REINSTATE THE COMBAT DRAFT AND START A NEW SKILLS DRAFT. CHARLIE RANGEL HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Please distribute this post and the official SSS draft document, the Feb. 11, 2003 “Issue Paper”, to all college newspaper editors, in LTTEs and mass e-mails.

PRINT THE PDF: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf
HANG THIS FLYER EVERYWHERE

This is a SPECIAL MILITARY DRAFT ALERT. In May, the Seattle Post Intelligencer published an article about a document they received through the Freedom of Information Act. It was revealed that the SSS is currently “designing procedures” for the implementation of a “Skills Draft” and had held a top-level meeting on it with Deputy Undersecretaries at the Defense Department. This draft would change the essential mission of the Selective Service and require “virtually every young American”, male and female ages 18-34, to register for the Skills Draft and list all the occupations they are proficient in to fill labor shortages throughout nearly the entire government. If enacted, the Skills Draft proposed in this FOI-recovered document would change America as we know it.

The Pentagon is suffering from immediate labor shortages. Recently, the inactive Ready Reserve had to be called up for the first time since the Gulf War to fill 5,600 job shortages in the Armed Forces. DoD said in the recent IRR callup “20% of the call-ups are truck drivers, 12% are supply specialists who can use a computer to track supplies, 10% are Humvee mechanics, 7% are administrative specialists and 6% are combat engineers” (USA Today, August 8, 2004).

Although Congress would have to approve new legislation to create a Skills Draft or reinstate the combat draft, Family Circle reported in its July 13 issue that Karl Rove has polled GOP members of Congress in September 2002 to see if they would support the President if he requests reinstatement. The Republicans said they would vote for the draft. They would likely support the new legislation needed to create the Skills Draft. While Bush and the Republicans are of course keeping the return of the draft and the new skills draft as quiet as possible, many anti-draft organizations have recently begun warning of a “Coming New Draft”.

The Issue Paper document was revealed through the Freedom of Information Act by Seattle Post Intelligencer reporter Eric Rosenberg, who wrote a partial explanation of it that was printed May 1, 2004.

(http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.h... )

Rosenberg’s article was edited, however, and some key points about this document were omitted in the published article. What follows is a full explanation of the document and links to the document itself.

The Secret Issue Paper can be viewed at: http://blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

This document is real, having been acknowledged by the DoD and the SSS when they said no action is being taken on it at the present time. However, given the current manpower shortages for certain skills and nurses, if Bush gets back in, expect all the options outlined in the Issue Paper to be implemented by the end of December of this year, and at the least a non-combat skills and medical draft to start next year, if not the male combat draft, ages18-25.

Despite Rumsfeld saying the draft is not needed, this is the same neo-con administration that has repeatedly lied to and misled the American people. Draft-age youth and their families are left looking at a “long, hard slog” in Iraq (Rumsfeld secret memo), the neo-con plans to invade still more nations, and then having to take Rumsfeld and Cheney’s word not to worry about the draft, that they “are not considering it at this time.”

Although official word is that this secret list of options is not being implemented—the Issue Paper options have NOT been rejected and the 6-page proposal is rather sitting in the Pentagon, waiting. In addition, the SSS itself has said that it is “designing procedures” (Seattle PI, May 1, 2004) to implement the skills draft, meaning designing the compliance cards and the data fields needed to keep track of “virtually every young American” and their skills. Acting Director of the SSS Brodsky has also said the Skills Draft is the “top priority” of the Selective Service for 2004.

From the FOI document, we now know that on February 11, 2003, Charles Abell, the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, and William Carr, Deputy Undersecretary for Military Personnel Policy, met with Lewis Brodsky, the Acting Director of the Selective Service and some other officials. This is the highest-level meeting you could have about the Selective Service, outside of Rumsfeld and his inner circle. They were there to discuss the urgent “issue paper” now revealed, which starts: “With known shortages of military personnel with certain critical skills, and with the need for the nation to be capable of responding to domestic emergencies as a part of Homeland Security Planning, changes should be made in the Selective Service System’s registration program and primary mission”.

Although it would require changes in current draft law, the far-reaching proposal shows how far the Republicans are going to plan and prepare for a huge expansion of the draft. The Issue Paper options include:

- Change the very mission of the SSS to become a massive conscription service in the War on Terror for the entire government.

- Conscript men and women in a critical skills non-combat draft up to age 34 with no deferments of any kind, except “essential community service” (like the Medical Draft).

- Allow a non-combat draft for shortages in critical skills, without calling a combat draft.

- Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the whole government, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist.

- Create a massive database of “virtually every young American” ages 18 to 34. This database would be used to draft in war and to recruit in peacetime. State and even local governments would be given access to the names for recruitment and help in emergencies.

- Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young person would be forced to send in a “self-declaration” of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list of occupations like the Armed Forces Specialty Code. The self-declaration is similar to IRS compliance and the filling out and signing of your tax forms. All young people would be required to keep the government updated if they acquired a new skill. SSS Compliance forms will be available at every Post Office. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine would apply to all non-registrants.

- A draft or recruitment could be for any one of the skills you self-declare on the compliance form, not your current or primary skill. This greatly increases your chance of being drafted if you are 18-34

- Bring the Medical Draft (HCPDS) up to speed and fully test it through readiness exercises.

- Reduce induction time from being able to deliver all inductees in 193 days down to just 90 days for skills inductees.

This secret paper urges the mission be changed “promptly”, meaning they really need it, it would draft for the Pentagon as well as the enormous Homeland Security branches as well as other government agencies, even state and local!

For obvious political reasons, the decision was made by Bush, Cheney and Rove to sit on this 6-page proposal until after the election in November. Yet the SSS was told to go ahead and begin “designing procedures” for the Skills Draft in 2004 and make it their “top priority”. It can be expected that if Bush gets back in, and the DoD and SSS are still asking for the Skills Draft, the “Next Steps” part of the document will be put into action and the most expansive option to change the SSS mission will be rapidly legislated.

In the secret planning meeting document, the next steps strongly recommended by SSS Acting Director Brodsky were:

1. “Promptly” redefine the SSS Mission to draft men and women up to age 34 for skills, and deliver them within 90 days or sooner to the Department of Defense. Program a massive database to be ready to enter millions of names of those registering their critical skills.

2. Expand mission to deliver personnel in skills draft to the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies, including FEMA, NSC, Border Patrol, INS, Customs, Corporation for National Service, Public Health Service and other federal, state and local government agencies.

3. Form interagency task force to provide Administration with recommendation on this skills draft for the entire DHS and the rest of the government.

4. Obtain White House Statement of Administration Policy on the future of the SSS.

5. Be prepared to market the skills draft, raising the non-combat age to 34 and the drafting of women to the Armed Services and Appropriations Committee.

This proposed expansion of the draft, forcing all people under 35 to register with the SSS, man or woman, is primarily proposed, according to the document, because the cost of providing contract professionals, like computer network specialists, would be “prohibitive”. In this way, the proposed Skills Draft would help preserve Bush’s massive tax cuts for the wealthy by lowering the massive budget deficits.

That’s the new Skills Draft and the secret document behind it. But what about the Combat Draft?

Selective Service has been registering young men for over twenty years and at any moment the President can go to Congress and ask them to reauthorize conscription for the male combat draft for ages 18-25. It doesn’t take much to imagine a re-elected Bush going to Congress and saying “We cannot cut and run from Iraq or the War on Terror. I need you to reauthorize conscription.”

And they would not have to pass a whole new draft law to do it. All that is needed is a “trigger resolution”, which could be passed in the dead of night—and bingo! No debate, no regular bill, just a short resolution passed quickly and the draft for men 18 to 25 is back.

That is why the Democratic draft legislation being offered by Rangel and Hollings is totally irrelevant. These are known protest bills and actually propose drafting women for the combat draft, just to make sure they will never see the light of day. Rangel and Hollings offered them to raise the issue and confront Bush. Hollings even said he wouldn’t vote for his own bill!

They are not needed—and the press and the Republicans will bring them up as red herrings to distract everyone from what is really going on: the Republicans, and the SSS are quietly, behind the scenes, oiling up the draft machinery—getting ready to reinstate for the Spring of 2005. Taken singly, each of the clues indicating the return and expansion of the draft might seem insignificant but when you add them all up with what the selective Service is doing to gear up the combat draft, a clear pattern emerges, leading to the inescapable conclusion that a Bush re-election will see not only a Skills Draft, but a return of the Combat Draft as well.

What is the proof? The government’s own document, the SSS Performance Plan for Fiscal Year 2004:

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html

The Selective Service System, or the SSS, has for decades operated at a low level of readiness. Readiness Exercises are conducted on a multi-year cycle but historically these have been little more than getting draft board volunteers together and going over the procedures of what would happen under reinstatement and training new members every summer. And the draft boards themselves have become 80% vacant over the decades.

In the current 5-year cycle of exercises, however, the SSS is clearly ramping up the draft machinery to an unprecedented level.

“Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an authorized
return to conscription.”

Tie that to this objective:

“An annual report providing the results of the implementation of these performance
measures will be submitted by March 31, 2005.”

75 days from March 31, 2005 is about June 15, 2005. According to the 2004 plan, the draft boards will be “operational” then, meaning that they will be set up in 1,980 local offices around the country. If Bush asks for reinstatement on April 1, Congress could pass it that night and the first batch of over one million 20 year-olds would face the national lottery as soon as that date, June 15, 2005.

Here is how the $28 million is being spent according to the official document. Although the Senate rejected the funding request to bump up the SSS budget to $28 million, the SSS says in one paragraph of the Performance Plan that budgets will be “adjusted” to cover the additional cost for 2004:

“Strategic Goal 1: Increase the effectiveness and efficiency of the Manpower
Delivery Systems (Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $7,942,000)

Strategic Goal 2: Improve overall Registration Compliance and Service to the Public (Projected allocation FY 2004 – $8,769,000)

Strategic Goal 3: Enhance external and internal customer service
(Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $10,624,000)

Strategic Goal 4: Enhance the system which guarantees that each conscientious objector is properly classified, placed, and monitored. (Projected allocation for FY 2004 – $955,000)”

In analyzing each of the 2004 goals in detail it is obvious that there are hidden “activation bombshells” in this so-called “Performance Plan”. Goal number 1 in particular brings the combat induction process up to 95% operational readiness, going so far as to actually hold a mock lottery drawing this year and to issue sample orders to report for the famous medical exam. The document does not reveal the day in 2004 the mock lottery is to be held.
In addition, the Medical Draft, or Health Care Personnel Delivery System (HCPDS in the document), is for the first time brought up to full readiness by next year. This draft would take men and women up to age 44 if they are doctors, nurses or one of 60-some medical specialties. No medical deferments allowed. Previous readiness exercises merely went over what would happen with HCPDS and updated the guide. The 2004 plan actually develops a readiness exercise for the Medical Draft that would be conducted next year. Plus HCPDS must be ready to conscript by June, being part of the system.
Goal number four is particularly ominous.

“Strategic Objective 4.1: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 48 Alternative Service Offices and 48 Civilian Review Boards are operational within 96 days after notification of a return to induction.”

“Strategic Objective 4.2: Develop a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) for the Alternative Service Employer Network to specifically identify organizations and associations who can, by law, participate in the Alternative Service Program. This network will provide jobs for ASWs at the local level. Prior to activation, SSS will develop a draft MOU for use when obtaining agreements with qualified employers at the local and national level.”

For 31 years, the Conscientious Objector system, called the Alternative Service, has lain dormant. The 2004 plan also calls for this to be brought up to speed and to be ready to decide cases and place COs in the Alternative Service by July 6, 2005 (96 days after March 31, 2005). The SSS is even going so far as to draw up the SOPs, the Standard Operating Procedures which identify local employers eligible to receive cheap AS workers and to also draw up the actual MOU, the Memorandum of Understanding the employer must sign to get their CO workers and allow their mandatory attendance to be monitored. This is the last obstacle to be hurdled before the draft could actually be ready for quick activation under the law.

In sharp contrast to all this preparation for a Spring 2005 draft by Bush, Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry has proposed a military plan that rejects any draft. By adding 20,000 active duty combat soldiers and 20,000 active “reconstruction specialists”. At a Wisconsin high school, Kerry pledged in June, 2004, that the draft would be “absolutely unnecessary”. When asked in April by 130 college editors in a conference call as to whether he would support a draft, John Kerry said unequivocally: “No. No draft” and he has criticized the use of the Guard and Reserve and now the Individual Ready Reserve as a “back-door draft”.

Kerry plans to spend an additional $7 billion to strengthen the Volunteer Army in what is essentially a “No-Draft Plan”. Moreover, Kerry is strongly opposed to the neo-con plan revealed in Wes Clark’s book, in which Clark was told by a senior Pentagon official that invasions of Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Sudan and Somalia were still to come over the next three years.


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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:14 PM
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38. Will McAuliffe Answer Rock the Vote?
It appears what started this was an open letter from Rock the Vote to Gillespie and McAuliffe with specific questions about the possibility of a draft.

It would be a master stroke, especially in light of Gillespie's response, if McAuliffe responded directly to their questions.
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:38 PM
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48. Now I understand. How come the DNC chairman hasn't responded?
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lfs5 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 04:31 AM
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39. Leaked White House memo-Rummy and Wolfie Want Draft

BushDraft.com

"We need this and we are going to get it"
--Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense, talking about the Draft.

A memo leaked from the Whitehouse written by Paul Wolfowitz outlines the push for the draft currently being made by Donald Rumsfeld (Secretary of Defense) and Paul Wolfowitz to reinstate the draft. Both have publicly denied pushing for a draft, but those familiar with the policies of these two hawks, as written about on the website of one of their thinktanks Project for a New American Century know they are both big fans of reinstating the draft, and sending tens of thousands of young Americans off to die.

http://www.politicalsoundoff.com/articles-all/2004/9/26/as-bush-expands-the-empire-medical-personnel-will-be-drafted.html

The Charleston Gazette

Wednesday 22 September 2004

(Newhouse News Service) "...reported the Pentagon is considering other "special skills" drafts, to include military linguists, computer experts or engineers, that could arise from other immediate needs.

"We're going to elevate that kind of draft to be a priority," Lewis Brodsky, acting director of the Selective Service System, told Newhouse News Service.

The plan calls for the president to issue a proclamation ordering 13.5 million health-care professionals to register for a draft within 13 days. Following the proclamation, Congress would quickly pass legislation authorizing the draft of health-care workers aged 20-44, and for the first time in U.S. history, the draft would include women.

The Pentagon would then inform the Selective Service System of the number of personnel needed for each of the 62 medical specialties. The news service said a separate draft lottery would be held for each specialty.

The Defense Department believes it could draft up to 80,000 personnel surgeons, dentists, nurses, X-ray personnel, paramedics, etc. within several months of the draft through the Military Entrance Processing Command.

And they want "cease and desist" orders?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:51 PM
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50. Start drafting health-care professionals
and watch enrollments in medical-related schools and curriculums decline.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:13 AM
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44. The logic we discussed here does not penetrate
the media fog nor the RNC stonewall. Nonetheless, it is hardly a malicious rumor to ask how a supremely logical extension of the Iraq situation under Bush is a malicious rumor.

The trajectory is as clear and dramatic as an ICBM in full flight. Troops overextended. No details needed here. Troops demoralized, but note it does not have to be all the troops, only enough to drive down recruitments and drive up an exodus. The kinds of troops needed create serious holes in certain places. The last time I checked we aren't paying soldiers more than the Iraq security guards and the private contractors trying so desperately to score on the American taxpayer.

Add in the adventure in Haiti, gratuitous spite for not being able to get Venezuela and Cuba- but there is always the will if not the way. Iran and Syria projects march apace with no verbal or visible signs that the WH has retreated one inch from its purpose of action there. North Korea may not wait. Pakistan may deteriorate. In any event another front anywhere, probably more sensible than being in Iraq at all, is too much and this encourages people to tweak our noses and do some pre-emptive raiding of their own. The Pentagon will be screaming for more troops if only as a deterrent, but definitely to plug big gaps left in certain sectors. Not caring about casualties but trying to minimize troop presence, the Bush policy is self-conflicting madhouse eating our armed services alive.

And speaking of pre-emption. Do you think the GOP elite is going to wait for a universal draft that will sweep up their own kids? No that damned "skills draft" will give a patriotic blanket and photo ops for future careers to the college kids. The skills that non-college kids have will providentially applied to front line ditch digging, bayoneting and all around cannon fodder. It is the person and obstinate policy of Bush that is driving the trajectory for a draft.

But no, this does not fit quite in the Bush league model of a small, heavily privatized army with push button death toys and nukes. The other reason for denying the draft is that they do want people to get involved with the power game, besides getting angry. Another "scary" theory: under Bush, nukes will be used in the next four years, maybe as a last ditch attempt to avoid using troops, given the proper provocation. My reasoning for that IS more intuitive than the obvious draft need, but then that little theory is not bothering anyone yet.

Scared? You ought to be. If Bush had been totally successful with his transformation of the armed forces there would have been worse things than a draft. A draft makes people take certain issues very seriously.

No wonder Bush and the Repukes are gagging on the topic.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:49 PM
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49. kick! n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:54 PM
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51. can't have the CFU's* getting wise
* CFU: Cannon Fodder Unit
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:51 AM
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53. I have seen Gillespie and heard him speak...
... he should be gagged and thrown over the side, either as:

1. Disposable ballast
2. Boat Anchor.

I wouldn't let this guy eat the little cakes out of the urinals.
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