Do you think the Bush camp is in desperation at this point?

[Must_B_Free]

Me thinks they are on the verge of redemonstrating the biblical legend "The bigger they come, the harder they fall".

Trying to hide behind a gay woman whom they have shunned is a weak position to be taking at this point in the game for people who raised the whole gay issue to be divisive in the first place.

[BootinUp]

1. No, they've been there since May or June. :)

The desperation has noticeably increased of late.

[TwentyFive]

2. Yes - their numbers are falling - their strategy is failing

BushCo thought the 'war on terror' would carry them through the 2004 elections, and the 'gay marriage' issue would drive more evengelicals to vote. War worked great for them in the 2002 elections...they won back the Senate & picked up seats in the House.

But now this strategy is failing - big time. More soldiers are dying in Iraq...no WMD found...bad intelligence was sold to the American people...oil prices are at record highs...people see through the gay marriage wedge issue...and domestic policy is in shambles.

But the biggest threat is that JK is very Presidential...and most people agree with him on the issues.

[Bullshot]

3. Their messages on the campaign trail have sounded desperate

since the first presidential debate. All Bush and Cheney do is throw insults, lies and half-truths about Kerry and Edwards. It's 1992 again!

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[Must_B_Free]

16. 1. Kerry voted X times against Y

typical distortion of his record.

2. The whole swiftboat lies that attempted to turn a war hero in to a self serving traitor and a deserter into someone who served his country.

3. Kerry is a flip flopper campaign

4. Kerry's affair with an intern. 100% lie.

5. "Can you give CPR to a Hamster?" investigation (backfired when it was determined to be possible)

6. Big Bad frivolous trial lawyers are to blame for high costs of healthcare.

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[Vickers]

18. Welcome to DU!

Enjoy your stay!

:hi:

[PA Democrat]

4. Yes, I believe W is desperate to win.

His entire presidency has been an effort to prove himself worthy of daddy's love. In order to do that, he has to succeed (get a second term) where daddy failed.

We saw what he did in 2000. I truly believe that he will set no boundaries on dirty tricks and outright theft in order to win this time around.

[emulatorloo]

5. The Atlantic Monthly - "Karl Rove in a Corner" well worth reading

to see what we have in store for us. Recounting of Rove's past campaigns, dirty tricks, etc ad infinitum.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/print/200411/green

[TrustingDog]

6. I don't think they're desparate....

they have all the aces up their sleeves - the media and an entrenched hypnotised following. They're laughing.

It's us who are the desparadoes.

[OutsourceBush]

7. Agreed, these Nazis have managed to brainwash the masses

as long as they can continue with their Nazi propaganda brainwashing, they have nothing to fear from politically ignorant Americans.

[Must_B_Free]

8. THe problem with deception is that they have deceived themselves

They have a false sense of confidence. Their support base has eroded greatly with the admission that Iraq was based on lies. Basically the strategy of "damn the truth, full speed ahead with the lies" has weakened the power of their lies to the extent that they are anticipated and ineffectual.

[TrustingDog]

9. but they're still getting what they want...

an america in fear and cash on the barrel. so I can't agree they have a false sense of confidence - those devils know exactly where the push line is.

[Must_B_Free]

13. I don't think America is afraid anymore

fear doesn't last that long.

Fear itself is a realization of terror. People under that stressed state naturally become immune to it when they are forced to face it regularly. The effect or control of fear essentially "wears off".

The whole question of "are we safe?" We were never safe! before a small WMD attack, it was the looming threat of full scale nuclear war that we lived under. Life is never a safe endevour; death is imminent for every person and always has been.

[freeminder]

21. great screenname, a belated welcome to DU

:hi:

[pauliedangerously]

12. I hate to say it, but...

I agree with you. I'm hoping for the best, but I'm braced for the worst.

[mikehiggins]

10. Nope. I think they beleive everything is going just fine

De Nile is not just a river, its a way of life.

[Jose Diablo]

11. I imagine Rove's trip to the witness stand

has cause many butts to pucker-up.

[grasswire]

14. Here's what I think...

based on that article in Atlantic Monthly and on Ron Suskind's new piece in the NYT Magazine:

Bush will lose the popular vote and take it into overtime in many places across the country. I suspect they already know this is going to happen, and are planning accordingly.

In 2000 we didn't know that Rove already had a record of taking an election to the Supreme Court through thuggery and dirty tricks. NO ONE TOLD US he already had a road map for stealing the election after the fact.

They start by propaganda claiming that Dems are engaging in election fraud and irregularities, setting the stage. That's already happening.

[freeminder]

19. I couldn't agree more,

only this time they don't have a huge time advantage. As seen in the polls on the debates, response time of democrats is GOOD. I think they'll try, but they won't pull it off.

They will end up with no clothes once and for all. This group has been in power since JFK times, time's up.

[freeminder]

17. yes, and they should be

unless Osama comes out of chinese hands or some states just "happen" to go to code red on election day. Maybe some blue ones, or swing states going the wrong way (who has what info when?)?

You see, you would blame it on a lot of "unknowable" "noise" on some intelligence channels, triggering of an electronic voting, oops I mean electronic terrorism assesment system (aka the code-red-generator)

If none of the above, come hell or high water, the americans will look at their wallet and their safety, vote their own best interests, and kick some serious behind.
:kick:
:bounce:
Kerry in a landslide!

[ldf]

20. it is a quiet desperation

because they have all their backup plans.

throw out democrat voter registrations.

scare voters into not voting (police at polls, etc)

lie about voter qualifications (tickets, etc)

purge voter polls

diebold voting machines

make sure another attack happens

so, by their own internal polling they know the numbers are bad for bush. but they are confident in their backup plans and know that democrats don't have the stomach or fortitude to press the issues.

i just hope they are wrong.

[freeminder]

23. "police at polls", so true

would probably keep away young african-americans. If they are not in jail!


Inspired by Body Count's "A statistic:"

[ldf]

25. and those african-american voters

who have been repeatedly harassed just for being black, NOT because of a criminal record, may not feel up to having a white bubba with a gun glowering at them and asking them a lot of irrelevant questions.

it's all about harassment for the purposes of preventing people from voting, NOT picking up criminals with outstanding warrants at the polls.

but then, you knew that to start with.

you need to work on your subtlety. you may last longer that way.

[freeminder]

27. Thanks for the tip.

I was aware of the possibility of your interpretation, but thought the song reference would clear it up.

I guess not, sorry if I offended.

[yella_dawg]

24. Desperation??

They got it aced. Check pollkatz. The polls have bottomed and are heading up just enough to give the Pubs another "squeaker" ala 2000. As long as the polls are inconclusive, Diebold et al can hand it to the GOP. I did extensive mathematical and statistical analysis on the midterms, and I honestly believe that the elections are rigged. Now that the opinion polls are inconclusive, the rest is just accounting. Dirty accounting, but just accounting.

[ldf]

26. and that's why the MUST have the polls reported

as too close to call.

so they can steal it.

then, if kerry wins by a sizable margin, they will accuse the democrats of doing EXACTLY what THEY THEMSELVES did.

then off to the courts they will go.

i wonder if the supremes will vote again as they did last time.

i think o'conner has had some MAJOR second thoughts about her part in the crime of 2000.