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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:55 PM
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More Bush Lies - How Much He Pay to Get this Run?
WASHINGTON, Oct 14 /Press Release/ -- Today Chuck Canterbury, the President of the nation's largest police labor organization, called on John Kerry to stop making misleading statements regarding his support from the law enforcement community. Both on the campaign trail and in Wednesday night's debate in Tempe, AZ, Senator Kerry has alluded that he has the support of the majority of these brave men and women.

"As the elected leader of the largest organization representing America's Federal, State and local law enforcement officers, I believe it's important to point out yet again that we do not support his candidacy for President," Canterbury said. "And to be perfectly frank, the groups which do support him actually share the same membership rolls and, taken together, probably comprise less than one-quarter of our nation's police officers."

Canterbury further noted that unlike the organizations which Senator Kerry touts, F.O.P. members as a whole decided that the Fraternal Order of Police would endorse the reelection of President George W. Bush. They based their decision, he said, on the record of the Bush Administration in supporting America's first responders-including helping to secure passage earlier this year of H.R. 218, the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, the organization's top legislative priority. Bush also successfully fought to greatly enhance the benefits for the families of officers killed in the line of duty.

"While Kerry was flying around the country campaigning and leaving the actual work of the nation to his colleagues in the Senate, the President was out there working on our behalf," Canterbury said. "Senators Kerry and Edwards have missed so many crucial votes this Congress that I was beginning to believe there were only 98 members of the U.S. Senate."

Canterbury also said it was the height of irony that Kerry would use his position on the reauthorization of the assault weapons ban as a reflection of his support from police.

"First, if a police officer is killed by an AK-47, Kerry would oppose the death penalty for the killer," Canterbury said. "In addition, where was he when this issue was being discussed in the 108th Congress? Where was he when we were working to pass H.R. 218? When it came time to help push for final passage of legislation important to law enforcement, Senator Kerry was regrettably A.W.O.L."

"Given the facts, I would greatly appreciate it if Senator Kerry would refrain from making similar whimsical assertions regarding his support from the law enforcement community," Canterbury said. "The real majority of my fellow officers are standing behind President Bush, because he has been there for us."

The Fraternal Order of Police is the nation's largest law enforcement labor organization, with more than 318,000 members.

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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:58 PM
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1. That is a police organization. Not a union.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 10:59 PM by kikiek
Where is your link. They must not be a reputable paper.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:58 PM
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2. Gee thanks.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:58 PM
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3. So he supports layoffs, paycuts, and assault weapons on the streets?
You sure this guy represents anyone associated with the police?
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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:59 PM
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5. obvious a lie
What is this Fraternal Police Order? Some kind of Republican front job?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:12 PM
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14. That question doth not ring true...
You've never heard of The Fraternal Order of Police?

I've donated to them nearly every other year for the last ten years.

You sure you've never heard of them?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:15 PM
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18. Is this the same group?
http://www.grandlodgefop.org/

Numerous anti-Kerry, pro-Chimp press releases are here.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:17 PM
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23. yeah - that's them alright
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:25 PM
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28. I never realized they were such a rabid partisan group
I'd heard of them, but didn't know this about them. Their name sounds a lot friendlier than their rhetoric and activities, I guess.

Is it common knowledge they're rightwingers? Do most people on DU know this? Wondering if they merit some special attention...
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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:16 PM
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20. nope, never donated to them
You a police officer?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:19 PM
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24. No- but I'll take donations...
Wondering wher you must live to have never heard of them... I get called 2 times a year.

Guess I should never have given in the first place...
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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:21 PM
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26. get a cell phone
and turn off the land line. U never get called.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:59 PM
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4. That's just absurd
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:02 PM
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6. AWOL, huh?
Funny that this jerk supports the coWard accuses Kerry of being AWOL. Take a look at the National Guard record of your Commander in Chief, you stupid f***. The same Commander in Chief that sends National Guardsmen to their deaths in Iraq failed to carry out orders and failed to report for duty.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:03 PM
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7. a little info about the Fraternal Order of the Police
on downtown State Street in Madison, Wisconsin, is a little company called Zentel. They do telephone solicitation for the Fraternal Order of Police and Firefighters. I know four people who worked there for one day each and quit because it hurt their conscience-- pushing senior citizens on pensions to give money; it's a job requirement to make at least four pushes for donations per call & all calls are recorded. In an average shift of 6 hours, a worker makes 400 calls. Most of the workers are from the local jail, on Huber release. Last year they raised 2.1 million dollars for the FOPF, of which Zentel got to keep 70%. FOPF big Bush/Cheney donors.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:05 PM
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10. I knew there was something skanky about their website.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:04 PM
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8. Here is the union endorsement
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:05 PM
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9. Well... I agree...
If Bush* is reelected we're going to need a whole lot more police to stem the crime wave as a result of unemployment.

Accidental forsight?
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:07 PM
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11. Hey, y'know, oddly enough ...
I ran this on Google, and do you know the only Internet link that came up for a random phrase selected from this story? Free Republic, that's what.

Not accusing you of anything, but I find it interesting that the only place that article comes up, on a Google search, is FR. Wonder where you found it? You've been asked for a supporting link and you didn't deliver -- how about it?
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:07 PM
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12. I am with you on this. First clue is..Bush never fought for anyone in his
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:12 PM by kikiek
life other than his own interests. He has a sociopathic personality and doesn't have a clue and couldn't care less about what others think or feel.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:16 PM
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21. No -- I really wasn't accusing the original poster.
Providing him/her with an object lesson that if s/he has a link, s/he should provide it, that's all -- posting stuff that's negative for a Democrat without a supporting link often will get you accused of being a troll even if you aren't. Figured it was safer for someone who wasn't sure it was a troll to ask -- this person may not be trolling us, and the FOP has backed Bush*. I honestly did Google it and only found links to Free Republic, so I was curious if it appeared anywhere else.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:25 PM
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27. I think it is disingenuous responses that makes me suspicious more
than anything. Along with the syntax and spelling.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:28 PM
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29. Deleted message
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:29 PM
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30. Thanks.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:34 PM
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31. Nonetheless, the thread did us a favor
I am glad to know more about the FOP. If they call me for a donation, I will tell them "NO" and I will tell them why.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:36 PM
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32. Absolutely did you're right.
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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:40 PM
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34. what nonsense?
Get off the conspiracy kick. My posts not "all nonsense".
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:48 PM
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:37 PM
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33. That's what the 'Alert' button is for.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:37 PM by nownow
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt when possible, but if something smells funny, I always hit 'alert' too. Factually, the story was correct, if full of ad hominem and probably illegitimate attacks against Kerry. This was the poster's first post I'd seen, my radar wasn't up and what I said won't get my post deleted.
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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:10 PM
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13. its on usnewswire.com
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:13 PM
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16. OK -- just Googled it and all I got was FR.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:14 PM by nownow
Thanks for the link!

Already knew the FOP had sort of endorsed Bush* -- but if you post a news story here without a link, you'll get that question a lot. Just a heads-up for you.
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masher Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:20 PM
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25. try altavista
thats where I saw it.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:15 PM
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17. Obviously not reputable. They aren't a union just a dim wits
organization. The number of members is very unimpressive considering how many officers exist in this country. A union is what Kerry has been endorsed by.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:13 PM
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15. I googled and found the FOP and it is on their site
and they're obviously rightwingers who choose to wear BLINDERS about what the Chimp's doing to law enforcement.

Also, from Kerry's site:
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0514.html
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:16 PM
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19. Impressive..he got the union and the fraternal order.
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:17 PM by kikiek
Also says they are the only "major" police organization.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:17 PM
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22. Check out some of his other posts
Sound like a certain board? He won't be here long.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:56 PM
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36. I'm locking this thread
reason:
copyright violation with no link
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