TWO DATES I'M REEEEALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO...

[UdoKier]

First, the inauguration of President Kerry on Jan 20 next year.

Next, the completion of THIS, in around 2007-2008:



These two things will go a long way towards the healing of what has become a bitterly dysfunctional country.

I'm so tired of it all - the rancor, the hate, the fear. Do you think the right-wing folks EVER tire of it?

[DivinBreuvage]

1. Personally I'm waiting for the next Civil War

Hopefully, THIS TIME, the rot will be purged.

[camero]

2. On the first date: Go Kerry!

On the second date: Oh no, not another obscenely high and disgustingly opulent statue of corporatism to watch Reichstag terrorists knock over with airplanes again.

Best to have another way to remember September 11. Like a memorial or a wall listing and remembering those who died.

Edit: The design reminds me of that skyscraper in the movie "Freejack".

[Selwynn]

3. My feelings EXACTLY

[NecessaryOnslaught]

4. As another DUer so aptly put it

MIHOPOLIS.

Larry and his financial backers should make a bundle off of the rents from that complex, especially since they got the terra insurance settlement to pay for it.

[LibLover]

5. Beautiful building!

With Bush out of power these people won't have any reason to attack the new one! :toast:

[Endangered Specie]

6. I believe it will be the worlds tallest...

if you measure them by highest non-antenna.

The other three ways are highest anything, highest roof, or highest occupied floor.

The official one is the non-antenna (spears), not my personal way of measuring but hey.

[UdoKier]

7. The top is just air and a framework.

The part of the building that will actually house offices is not all that tall.

I didn't like the design at first, but it has grown on me and I now feel it will really make the skyline whole.

Ad for 9-11 style attacks - does anybody rally think that would happen again? Wouldn't the passengers overtake the hijackers?

[Selatius]

8. I wouldn't work in that tower, imho

If the US continues to do what it has done in the past (i.e. support foreign undemocratic, brutal regimes over the heads of other people such as Arabs in the name of either profit or control), you are going to continue seeing terrorism. Just look at the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein in the 1980s, and all the others the US has supported or simply turned a blind eye towards like Augusto Pinochet. All of this has consequences. People simply don't just up and drive planes into buildings on a whim; it takes a great deal of pushing and shoving before somebody decides to punch back.

I know I am patronizing many folks here, but the simple fact is many people out there don't realize it. For example, that poster not that far above who said that with Bush gone they wouldn't have a reason to attack: All I could do is shake my head. Bush himself isn't the problem. They started planning the attacks years before Bush took office. It's the whole way the US government has done business over the last several decades that brought this to ahead.

Frankly, with corporatism infecting both parties, I'm not going to hold my breath for the day that corporate interests don't dominate US foreign policy.

Wouldn't the passengers overtake the hijackers?

You're assuming they'll hijack another plane carrying passengers again. Logically, why do that again when you can do the same to a FedEx or a UPS plane that only carries mail?

[UdoKier]

10. Dude, we all gotta go some time.

And who knows what would really get hit next? I realize it's not the 50s and the world is not as safe as it was, but if you live in fear, you are letting the terrorists (the Bushies with their alerts ;) ) win. Yes, the roots of the terror problem go way back, but the biggest one was the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia, and they are no longer there.

I'm not going to waste my life wondering who's going to attack next and where. We all have a btter chance of getting hit by lightning or a bus than by Al Qaeda.

[Selatius]

11. No, I wouldn't know what would be hit next

But if I'm looking at the tallest structure in the world, a symbol of American economic might, then to not think that that tower isn't begging to be hit and doesn't look like a gigantic bullseye is simply denying what is out there. :think:

No, I'm not going to live in fear. I'll leave that up to the religious nutjobs and the Republicans. The fact that I oppose the civil liberties busting Patriot Act is assurance enough in my own book that I'm not going to let the terrorists win over reason and freedom. I don't want Total Information Awareness or any subsequent incarnation of it hidden away somewhere. I don't need Operation TIPS in my neighborhood or any other incarnation of it.

If there is anything I fear, it's Orwell's worst nightmare come to pass.

[fujiyama]

9. I don't know

I still would have liked something more reminiscent of the twin towers themselves.

It's not a bad building or design, but it wasn't my first pick of the designs I saw.

I do agree though, that both would come some way in healing the country. It would be especially nice to have a president that day that would understand HOW to prevent further terrorist attacks against the US, rather than using them as backdrops for political purposes. One of the most disgusting things Bush has done (and there has been plenty) is the way he has milked 9/11 for all the political gain he could get.