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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:22 AM
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Zogby calls US Presidential election for 'Tin Man' Kerry!
From his mouth to God's ears.


http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10077

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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:25 AM
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1. Good Read...
let's see what happens...i think ther 'polls' are not catching a lot of the anger towards Bush..
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:16 AM
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7. Oz never did
give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:26 AM
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2. Weird Questions ...

There have been a number of people on DU who have had questions about the seemingly bizarre questions Zogby sometimes asks. I had a vague idea this was somehow related to his Tin Man vs. Scarecrow model, but not how.

Good to see this explained.

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:26 AM
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3. Funny. I didn't think Bush had a heart.
Though, that is my opinion.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:33 AM
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4. zorby a dick
boy he hasn't watch what
Mr. scarecrow
has done in the last four years
and this is the best analogy
he can come up with after
FOUR YEARS? THE SAME ONE?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:36 AM
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5. It's interesting that he references Jefferson at the end
It's my opinion that Kerry has the same kind of intellectual "energy" that Jefferson had.

Please note this is a comparison only of the type of mind they share, not the intellectual capabilities of either in general.

Kerry's mind seems to work over-time (sometimes to his detriment it seems) Jefferson had that same insatiable desire to throw himself into things.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:58 AM
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6.  kerry /jefferson comparison by Zorby
"In 1800, Thomas Jefferson emerged from a nasty presidential battle with incumbent John Adams by pushing through a comprehensive programme that crossed political lines.

Asked who he was rooting for, he said: 'Thomas Jefferson. The next president of the US has to bring this country back together.'"

He one of the better pollsters, but inacurate(follow predictions of Gore/bush 2000) and a "tool" for being
"independent".
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:18 AM
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10. Since 1984, He's Been The MOST Accurate Pollster
He also was the closest to the final values in 2000. What numbers were you looking at? Zogby's methodology is superior to everyone else's except maybe Pew. I've done peer review work for some of the social statistics information. The work is always impeccably scientific.
The Professor
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:27 AM
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8. I answered "neither" on that question because
although I knew where Zogby was going with the bizarre question, I refused to concede that Kerry is heartless or that the grinning, kill-happy fraud king has one.

Terrible, terrible analogy.

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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:15 AM
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9. It was not an obvious question, seems to have confused both sides
I think maybe Zogby has a lot more info than this to place his bet on.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:35 AM
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11. I think so, too. I also think that the Cowardly Lion would've been
a better metaphor for Blinky, don't you? No heart, no brain, lots of bluster, but runs and hides at the first sign of trouble. Only has the nerve to chase after the Totos in our midst. Aspires to be King o' de Forest. Etcetera.

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