Is it true Gallup had a double digit lead for Bush in 2000 and Gore won PV

[BUSHOUT]

by 500,000 votes?

What the hell is wrong with Gallup?

Now Zogby, who nailed the 2000 election, has it even.

Maybe CNN should re-examine it's poll or at least stop pumping it almost exclusively.

[Pachamama]

1. I emailed CNN earlier and pointed out their credibilty gap...DUers send

email to CNN and remind them that they should consider showing more than one data source..especially one that has been shown to be in favor of Republicans and was off in 2000...

:kick:

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. Gore also won the electoral vote.

FL. purged 58,000 voters from the voter rolls...ILLEGALLY. Gore is our president.

Gallup is a bullshit poll and CNN knows it.

[whirlygigspin]

5. Florida also discarded 182,000 ballots on election day

add that to GORE's 500,000 advantage, plus the million votes discarded nationwide and your talkin' a big loss,

and in 2000 no one was really cheezed off like they are now.

I would expect Kerry to win, (minus fraud) by at least 3 million votes.

[Zorra]

3. Here: CNN poll: Bush maintains 7-point lead over Gore (Oct 29 2000)

This is a Gallup/CNN/USA Today Poll

CNN poll: Bush maintains 7-point lead over Gore

WASHINGTON (CNN) - GOP presidential candidate Texas Gov. George W. Bush continued to maintain an advantage over Democratic Vice President Al Gore in Sunday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

Forty-nine percent of respondents said they supported Bush while 42 percent said they would vote for Gore, no change at all from Saturday's poll.
snip-----
In the past, the poll has shown Bush with at least 48 percent of support for five consecutive days, and Gore with no more than 43 percent during that same length of time.

That stability indicates that Bush has built a solid advantage over his rival in the post-debate phase of the campaign.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/29/tracking.poll/

[TexasSissy]

7. That was terrific. Thanks. Notice the WP & Zogby poll nos. @ end...

they were MUCH closer to the actual votes that came in.

[BUSHOUT]

8. Kick good news.....CNN is out to lunch. n/t

[ResistTheCoup]

9. On Oct 27th they had Bush up by 13%!!

(It's all about pushing the aura of inevitability for the dumbass. What a crock.)

http://edition.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/27/tracking.poll/

Tracking poll: Bush holds on to advantage
October 27, 2000
Web posted at: 6:23 p.m. EDT (2223 GMT)

By CNN Polling Director Keating Holland


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Today's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll continues to give George W. Bush an advantage over Vice President Al Gore.

[The_Counsel]

4. Yup.

I think the week before the 2000 election, Gallup had it something like 52-39, Bush. I remember thinking even then "there's NO WAY Gore's only pulling 39%...."

Apparently, they're doing it again this year, and it make even less sense than in 2000. These "pollsters" would have us believe that with general anti-Bush sentiment; an energized Democratic base; increased voter registration; the news tanking on Bush (Iraq gone bad, Dow gone south, oil prices in the stratosphere, etc.); and at least two obvious Kerry ass-kickings of Bush in the debates that Bush's support is going UP? And no, I don't wanna hear about the Mary Cheney thing: the ENTIRE ELECTORATE isn't going to turn on one issue -- even if you assume that 100% of those who do agree with the GOP take.

My take is Gallup (and a couple of others) is still using that laughable 40% Republican polling model. If anything, this year's electorate is going to be at least 40% INDEPENDANT. Certainly, the registered Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by at least a percentage point.

I wonder what the INTERNAL polls are saying? We should probably be better served to watch Kerry's actions the next ten days or so. If he gets desperate, that means his internals are saying the same thing Gallup is, in which case all is lost. If he keeps doing what he's been doing the last few weeks, or even GAINS confidance, that means Kerry is heading toward victory on 11/02.

I'll say it again: Kerry will get a minimum of 52 million popular votes and 312 electoral votes. It won't even be close. In fact, these bogus polls will only make his victory even sweeter...

[DemBones DemBones]

6. Zogby predicted last Friday that Kerry will win.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=894


"Polling can be uncertain only if you rely on statistics alone,' is Mr Zogby's riposte. 'That's why an effective pollster has to rely on culture, history and sociology. I repeat, polling is the study of human behaviour, not simply a sampling of people's preferences.'

That may well explain his success. His big test will come on Nov 2. In Singapore last Friday, he flatly predicted that Mr Kerry would become the 44th President of the United States.

And what if he's wrong?

Mr Zogby looked at his questioner with some irritation. But it could have been the fatigue on his face after a 24-hour flight from New York.

By Pranay Gupte Straits Times, Singapore
(October 18, 2004)


Also in the article, Zogby gives an Interesting, though brief, comparison of the elections of 1800 and 2000 terms, and the resulting terms of Jefferson, beginning in 1801, and Bush*, beginning in 2001.

[camero]

10. 2000 redux

Gore came from behind after coming out for UHC to placate potential Nader voters. Dirty tricks kept Gore from his victory.

JK, being neck and neck with Bush, now has to court voters who are now almost 60% against the Iraq War.

Watch for the dirty tricks because you know Kerry will win.