Another Sinclair Advertiser Response - General Mills Not Pulling Ads

[Adamocrat]

Basically, I have to cut a lot of GenMills foods/products out of my pantry. I'll donate them to a food drive. This is the lamest response I've had to date.


From: Christine Pearson <[e-mail]>

Thank you for contacting General Mills.

Many consumers have written to share their views on this issue. Some
have urged General Mills to use its influence as an advertiser to ensure that the media reports the news in an unbiased manner. Some have urged General Mills to continue advertising, and have threatened to withdraw support for our products if we alter our advertising plans. Passions run deep on both sides, particularly this close to an election.

Whenever possible, General Mills does strive to preview the programs on which our advertising appears. We do so to assure that we do not
advertise on programs inconsistent with the family-oriented nature of
our products. This works well with entertainment programs produced and
available for advance screening, but pre-screening of news broadcasts is usually not possible.

Our view in this area is clear. We believe one of the fundamental
elements of our society is the freedom of the press. Companies such as ours, in our view, should not attempt to influence, control or pre-empt the content of news through the leverage of advertising sponsorship. To do so would undermine that fundamental freedom.

From time to time, any one of us as viewers may consider a particular
news story to be inaccurate or imbalanced. News organizations do err.
Judgment is not always well applied. One major news organization
recently acknowledged that errors were made in stories relating to the
current presidential election. When such errors occur, certainly a
price is paid in terms of reputation. But errors and questionable
judgment are an acceptable price to pay, in our view, to assure the
presence of a free and independent media in our society.

As viewers, each of us is free to make a choice. We can choose to
patronize or not patronize programs with our viewership. We can choose to patronize or not patronize particular television stations, or even entire networks.

Similarly, advertisers may choose not to sponsor certain broadcasts, a
particular network or specific publications because of their
journalistic standards and judgment. But advertisers should not attempt to control or pre-empt news programming prior to broadcast or
publication. That, in our view, would be inappropriate.

In this instance, as in the example cited earlier, passionate voices are calling on advertisers to insert themselves into the election by
threatening to boycott those who remove or who do not remove their
advertising.

We choose to stand with freedom of the press.

We welcome the views that you and others have shared with us. You may
rest assured that we will remind the networks we sponsor that the
integrity of their reporting reflects on the companies that advertise
during their broadcasts.

Hopefully, you will understand our views - and the importance we place
on a free press.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact us and share your views.

Sincerely,


General Mills

[symbolman]

1. Well, there goes fours years of using their products..

Here's a flash attack ad I did to support the cause:

All the links are clickable and will help with this cause, use this please and pass it around, the more people that get it the more damage we can do to those bastards!

Turn up your speakers and get the word out with MEDIA as well..

BUT, Don't forget to WRITE to the Advertisers that have folded and THANK THEM -- when we did our Limbaugh Boycott we found that that is what helps them feel like they did the right thing..

Here's "Our Media is Broken"

Hope you like, my pleasure...

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20041013042650709

[Adamocrat]

3. Is there a list?

A list of advertisers who have pulled ads?

-A

[Iceburg]

33. Yes, there is a list that the Daily Kos is maintaining

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group
Scroll down to sections 10 thru 12
Many local advertisers have pulled out. The multi-nationals for the most part are stating that they don't intend to advertise during the "program". Sorry, that's not good enough. Further if you follow the money trail (via opensecrets.org) you will notice that their directers are funding the RNC/BushInc by the millions!!!!!!!!!

WE MUST STOP BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS NOW

Sinclair (SBGi)dropped 9% on the stock market today... those that are complicit in the dirty deed must pay also.

[ladybugg33]

51. I'm sick of the gouging of their food prices anyway.

Most of the food that poor people eat is way overpriced. Cereals and baking products especially.

[The Sushi Bandit]

2. Boycott the Bastards!

[daa]

17. Absolutely eom

[not fooled]

4. Gee, so would they say the same about a broadcast of F 9/11??

I don't think so...sounds like they don't mind "free speech" as long as it goes toward propping up the chimp.

[tom_paine]

50. Exactly. You KNOW what they would do. Cave immediately.

Once again the hypocritical talk of a "Free Press" shadows Orwellian Bootlicking.

They fear the Imperial Family. If the situation was reversed they would have yanked the ads so fast your head would spin.

Liars and public relations bozos all.

People fit to be slaves.

[movonne]

5. I tried to send on today and got it back as failure to deliver..I have

sent out about l0 to different advertisers and they come back undeliverable...

[Eric J in MN]

6. Lying about John Kerry isn't "news." I'm not buying General Mills cereals

again in the near future.

[Iceburg]

35. And don't forget P&G products

They not only advertise "religously" on Sinclair their directors have poured 100's of 1000's into Bushinc. Follow the monet at http://www.opensecrets.org

Some P&G Products

Iams
Eukanuba
Cascade
Tampax,
Old Spice,
Bounty,
Swiffer,
Aussie,
Herbal Essences,
Noxemma,
Nyquil,
Vicks,
Ivory,
Secret,
Mr. Clean,
Crest,
Scope,
Folgers,
Pringles,
Bounce
Metamucil,
Prilosec
Dryel

[vetwife]

42. P & G huh? Anyone remember they are supposed to be Devil worshippers?

Back in the 70's and 80's there was this big deal about the half moon logo and how that was asign of Satanism and Devil Worhip. Guess all the church folks were right back then. Hmmmmm. Will try and find a link on that.

[vetwife]

43. Here is some info on P roctor and Gamble Boycott

http://www.silcom.com/~barnowl/chain-letter/archive/pe1986-09_proctor.htm from the 80's?
....snip
The president of Proctor and Gamble Co. recently appeared on the Phil Donahue T.V. Show and the subject of which he spoke was his company's support of the Church of SATAN.

He stated that a large portion of Proctor and Gamble's profit goes to the Church of SATAN also known as the Devil's Church.

When asked by Phil Donahue if he felt that stating this on television might hurt his business, the President replied: THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH CHRISTIANS IN THE U.S. TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

[Out the Parasites]

7. Damn - that sucks...they are calling that peice of crap news???

Buh Bye General Mills products. I really mean that. Just like I chose to watch or not watch different programs...I will chose not to buy their products.

Thanks for passing this along.

[jakefrep]

8. This isn't a "news" item...

...It's a propaganda film. Shame this lady doesn't understand that.

[kayell]

9. Here's a list of General Mills brands

I'm adjusting my shopping list, and informing Ms Pearson of those changes. I urge all of you to do the same.

* 8th Continent
* Betty Crocker
* Big G Cereals
* Bisquick
* Bugles
* Cascadian Farm
* Cheerios
* Chex
* Forno de Minas
* Frescarini
* Fruit Snacks
* Gardetto's
* Gold Medal
* Green Giant
* Häagen-Dazs
* Hamburger Helper
* Jus-Rol
* Knack & Back
* La Salteña
* Latina
* Lloyd's
* Lucky Charms
* Muir Glen
* Nature Valley
* Old El Paso
* Pillsbury
* Pop Secret
* Progresso
* Totino's/Jeno's
* Trix
* V. Pearl
* Wanchai Ferry
* Wheaties
* Yoplait/Colombo

:hi: Hi Ruby, great minds think alike, hmm?

[Ruby Romaine]

10. no more Cascadian Farms organic food for me! GM companies include-

* 8th Continent
* Betty Crocker
* Big G Cereals
* Bisquick
* Bugles
* Cascadian Farm
* Cheerios
* Chex
* Diablitos Underwood*
*Venezuela only
* Forno de Minas
* Frescarini
* Fruit Snacks
* Gardetto's
* Gold Medal
* Green Giant
* Häagen-Dazs
* Hamburger Helper
* Jus-Rol
* Knack & Back
* La Salteña
* Latina
* Lloyd's
* Lucky Charms
* Muir Glen
* Nature Valley
* Old El Paso
* Pillsbury
* Pop Secret
* Progresso
* Totino's/Jeno's
* Trix
* V. Pearl
* Wanchai Ferry
* Wheaties
* Yoplait/Colombo

[dave502d]

11. They want to grow their GM CORN.

Boycott them.

[Blue Gardener]

12. I have friends and relatives that work at a General Mills plant

Now I'm in a quandary. They make a pretty good wage, and factory-type jobs that pay that well are becoming few and far between. So, if I boycott them, am I hurting the corporate assholes, or my friends?

[Iceburg]

34. Many "good" Germans were employed at Auschwitz

Never forget the words of Niemoller:

First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.

by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945

[realitybased]

13. Sinclair Action Guide

Michael Powell, the head of the FCC, has unfortunately already said that the FCC can't (or won't) do anything about Sinclair airing the program. Its up to us now. Sinclair can try to ignore us, but if their advertisers hear from enough upset citizens, they'll start thinking about spending their ad dollars elsewhere, and Sinclair can't ignore them!

I came across a great little website that has all the info needed to take action against Sinclair:

Sinclair Rapid-Action Guide

It has advice for contacting advertisers, and even has names of station sales managers!

[Alleycat]

14. My response to their response

Ms Pearson,
I friend just forwarded this email to me. (PLEASE SEE BELOW) It is your response to their complaint concerning Sinclair Broadcasting air an opinion piece and classifying it as news. Obviously you and General Mills believe this inaccuracy as well. This is not news! In fact a more accurate classification is propaganda. Please remember that Sinclair back in April ordered their stations to pre-empt an episode of Nightline in which the soldiers killed in Iraq would be honored. They then gave an explanation saying that “The action appears to be motivated by a political agenda designed to undermine the efforts of the United States in Iraq” It is my opinion and many others that Sinclair has their own political motivations and now it is also clear that General Mills agrees with them. They are attempting to change the outcome of this election and General Mills is cooperating.
I would hope that you and General Mills will consider your choices carefully and decide to pull any schedule advertising from this company on or around this program.  General Mills should stay out of politics and stick with making food products because people from all political parties and ideologies are your customers.  If you make that choice to advertise with Sinclair I will be forced to make a choice as well.  There are alternatives for me and my family and friends, co-workers, neighbors etc. I will forward your response below to all of those I come in contact with.
 
 
Thank you for this opportunity to allow me to voice my concerns.

[Vickers]

15. Showing an obviously partisan "movie" is considered "freedom of the press"

:wtf:


*checking my pantry for any General Mills stuff*

[dogtag]

16. Here's my email to General Mills

Ms. Christine Pearson:

General Mills is not supporting Freedom of the Press. You are supporting tyranny and the unfair use of the public airwaves to skew a national election. That you fail to see this is mind boggling. Be that as it may, you have now made your bed and I hope you are prepared to sleep in it.

Today I have purged my kitchen of all General Mills products and called everyone I know and asked that they do the same. I'm now on my way to dispose of our large stock of Gold Medal Flour in my church kitchen where a group of us bake weekly for poor and elderly congregants and replace it with King Arthur. I dare say that it probably sounds like a drop in the bucket to you, Ms. Pearson, but drops eventually an ocean make.

Many of us have gotten quite adept at reading labels these days and though you make a lot of products under many brand names, none will ever enter my house again. It may well take my a bit longer to complete my grocery shopping, but I'm determined and I have a long memory. Also I'm more than willing to help others purge your products as well.

Suffice it to say that General Mills has made a stupid decision in this matter. I saw the incredibly smug, ill informed letter you wrote to a friend of mine who contacted you, so spare yourself a response to me. There is nothing in your line that I can't substitute with a product manufactured by a company that believes in Freedom of the Press. Don't pretend that you do.

Very truly yours,


XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX

[Rex_Goodheart]

18. And we can choose not to buy your products, General Mills...

Say goodbye to a 51 year customer.

[Rex_Goodheart]

25. I just wrote to Ms. Pearson..

here's a portion of my letter:

Sinclair's motivation is clear. It is trying to influence the outcome of the November 2 election. Its broadcast is not news, but smear propaganda, an abuse of public airwaves, and contrary to the spirit of both FCC and FEC laws. Your "freedom of speech" defense for Sinclair's actions is spurious. "Freedom of speech" does not give a broadcast system the right to violate those codes of behavior, any more than you should state in your advertizing an opinion that Kellogg's Corn Flakes are bad for people's health.

[autorank]

19. Dear Ms. Pearson (my love letter to Christine baby):

Dear Ms. Pearson:

I read your response regarding the Sinclair broadcast of the anti-Kerry film. You distinguished between previewing entertainment programs, which you do, and news programs, which you do not.

You argument is terribly flawed. The anti-Kerry film is not news on three counts. As you know, the events discussed are decades old. Second, the producers of the film are not a news organization with journalistic credits. Would you consider F911 news? . Finally, the film was made by an active Republican political operative who formerly served in the Bush administration.

Given that you are, no doubt, an intelligent person and know that this is really an attack film I am left to conclude that General Mills endorses the use of the public air waves in a biased way to attack a Democrat and support a Republican running for president.

As such, I will never buy a General Mills product again. In addition, I will be come familiar with the entire product line and encourage all those I know that they should do the same.

Very truly yours,


autorank
Northern Virginia

[Alleycat]

20. Keep up the pressure

The more people calling and writing the better. We will not go silently.

[realitybased]

27. Too late for mail

I definitely agree with your sentiment, but the program is planned to begin airing this week, so it's too late to mail, since it might not even be read until the election is over. Almost all of the advertisers have 1-800 numbers though, so call as many as you can! Thats what I'm going to do. This will have a bigger impact on the numbers on Nov. 2 than anything else we could spend our time or money on. Good luck and keep working! We can sleep on Nov. 3!

[annabanana]

21. my letter to Christine Pearson:

The "Sinclair Issue" is NOT a matter of freedom of the press.

They are donating "in kind" to the Bush campaign, and calling the program (which features fully discredited information) a "news" program. They are in violation of election law. They are forcing their subsidiaries to preempt regular programming in order to air this program without commercial interruption.

They are subverting the democratic process in an alarming display of partisanship.

General Mills, of course, is free to support this anti-American travesty, but you should be aware that there is a formidable boycott already in motion against those who have so little regard for the electorate.

I only make purchasing decisions for a small concern, but there will be no General Mills products purchased. It's not hard to do, you have a lot of very good competition.

More in sorrow than anger

[welshTerrier2]

22. my letter to General Mills

thanks for posting the response from General Mills ... here's my response to the response:

Dear Christine

I read your response to someone asking you to pull your advertising from Sinclair due to their perception that Sinclair was going to run an anti-Kerry "news" program.

On the surface, many of the points you raised seemed very reasonable. But after a little reflection, I want to tell you that I've dismissed your core argument and have decided to join the boycott against those who advertise with Sinclair.

Here's why: I think you're point that "advertisers should not try to influence "news" programs" is an extremely valid one. However, advertisers bear a tremendous responsibility as "corporate citizens" in our society. I'm afraid that General Mills is burying its head in the sand on this issue. No one is calling for advertisers to boycott TV networks like Fox that seem to have a clearly biased political agenda. To that extent, I agree with your position. But that does not excuse General Mills from having to address what is right and what is wrong on a case by case basis. It seems inappropriate to toss around the term "news program" as if you've received some kind of "get out of jail free" card.

By taking the position that Sinclair's "news" program is none of your business, you turn loose your corporate advertising dollars without assessing whether this truly is, or is not, a "news" program. There is often a dangerously thin line between what is peddled as news and what is in reality propaganda. For any participant in a democratic society to ignore the imperative of making this critical judgment puts our nation at risk.

If you still refuse to sit in judgment of Sinclair's obviously partisan motivations, please consider pressuring Sinclair to offer the Kerry campaign equal time. It's hardly fair for General Mills to stand behind the importance of free speech and then continue to advertise on a network that refuses to offer equal time to Senator Kerry. I have never written a letter like this before. Many of us are watching this situation very closely to better assess the ethics of Sinclair's adverstisers. I truly hope you'll rethink your position.

Sincerely,

welshTerrier2 (real name used)

[canuckybee]

23. email sent. I do use a lot of their products, but am willing to boycott.

[Alleycat]

24. Busy Day

Looks like Christine Pearson will have a very busy day with all those incoming emails. They may not change their mind but we may just piss them off.

[mccormack98]

26. My response ...

Hi Christine,

I received an email from a friend who informs me that she received an email response from you regarding the Sinclair controversy. In your email, you stated that General Mills intends to continue advertising with Sinclair. I want to urge that you reconsider this position. My family loves General Mills products but feels that the airing of the anti-Kerry program is inherently unfair because it is timed to affect the elections. Since Sinclair has decided to move ahead with their broadcast schedule, my family has decided to take action.

We have decided that should Sinclair broadcast the anti-Kerry program, we will no longer use products advertised on the Sinclair network. Should General Mills continue to advertise on Sinclair, my family will cease buying General Mills products and we will urge all of our friends to cease purchase of General Mills products as well.

[drscm]

28. My Response

Dear Ms. Pearson:

I regret that General Mills has confused the Sinclair Broadcasting's political ploy with "Freedom of the Press."

By your standards, any slander is acceptable as long as it is in line with your policy of being "family oriented," an obvious limitation you place upon the "freedom of the press." Naturally you have that right to make such a judgment and I commend you for it. However I wish that you also have an interest in the honesty and integrity of the press.

You cited an example of a news organiztion running a story based on forged documents. That news organization publicly apologised for their failure to properly source their material. Sinclair Broadcasting is running a program which they know is biased without apology and you are supporting them and their program. An organization which knowingly supports slander does not reflect my values.

As such, I will no longer support your company now or in the future. I regret this as I have used many of your products in the past, but now they are particularly distasteful.

A free press is not the same thing as a responsible press. I only wish that your company would have chosen responsibility over profit.

Signed,

XXXXXXXXXXXX

[Adamocrat]

29. Thanks!

Everyone, thanks for the support, responses, and encouragement. We have to keep fighting until there is no safe haven left for these rightwing freaks.

-A

[marlakay]

30. Thanks, I sent her a email no more products etc.

Big companies only care about money.

[phylny]

31. My e-mail, short and sweet, was sent out today n/t

[noamnety]

32. My email

Having read an email written by you I will no longer be supporting your company by buying your products.

Due to the "family-oriented nature" of my family, I am actively teaching my daughter right from wrong. Your company has shifted into the "wrong" column. Wrong on campaign finance, Wrong on what constitutes news, Wrong on what is good business strategy (witness the 8% decline in Sinclair Broadcast Stock today alone).

We all share a responsibility in holding the media to journalistic standards. I am doing my part. I hope you will do yours as well.

[idiosyncratic]

36. Email to General Mills has been sent n/t

[union_maid]

37. Thanks for keeping us informed

Here's what I just sent - not eloquent, but the message is there:

I was disappointed to learn that General Mills is supporting Sinclair
in what they're doing. Freedom of the press is vitally important, but
is also a tricky issue. Airing a free attack ad that's the length of a
movie over public airwaves seems to me to be an abuse of power more
than freedom of the press. We'll miss our Cheerios, but we'll manage
without them. I never normally boycott, but we the people really have
to start standing up for ourselves since the press has abandoned its
responsibilty to fair, objective and intelligent reporting.

[Spiffarino]

38. Letter sent

I hope she has enough storage in her account space because she'll need it tonight. My letter:

Sorry Christine, but your free speech argument falls flat.

There is no free speech when only one side of the story is allowed to be told, and that’s exactly the case with SBGI’s broadcast of Stolen Honor. It is not news, it’s a political smear timed to change the outcome of the national election by using lies and distortions. I would not expect CBS to air Fahrenheit 9/11 without an equal chance for Bush to present his own side of the story; why then is it fair to smear John Kerry and not allow him an equivalent amount of primetime airspace to respond?

What Sinclair is doing on the public airwaves is a disgrace. If the SwiftVets, the Bush Campaign, or any other sponsor wants to pay for it, fine. But for Sinclair to give it for free and call it a “news broadcast” is simply a lie to circumvent election laws.

I will be saying goodbye permanently to some old friends. Perhaps you’ve heard of them…


* 8th Continent
* Betty Crocker

...followed by the entire list of GM products.

Sincerely,

gtrump
Asheville, NC resident
and a 10-year victim of
the Sinclair agenda

[MADem]

39. I went with the "You need to seek guidance" theme

..which is often effective when dealing with anyone in middle management:

Subject: Cheerios and Columbo Yoghurt

Those are two of my FAVORITE General Mills products!!! I also like the Old El Paso stuff, too.

But I have been sent a list of all your products, and I have put them on my "DO NOT BUY" list.

Your lame excuse that you are supporting "freedom of the PRESS" is utter nonsense, and shows that you don't know what is actually being shown, or you are being deliberately obtuse.

You are supporting a biased, politically motivated, campaign screed. The "press" can be found on the nightly news and the cable news outlets, not on campaign commercials disguised as documentaries, pumped over PUBLIC AIRWAYS. And you are supporting this crap?

You guys stink. You are GOP shills. I wonder how you sleep at night?

Please be sure your Board of Directors sees this. They need to know that you aren't handling this very well, because you aren't.

[Zorra]

40. Boycott 'em. That dumbass doesn't have a clue about freedom of the

press.

[Lorien]

41. I hope everyone who has responded here will

respond similarly at the e-mail address above!

[flygal]

44. New here - what's a substitute for Cheerios?

I have a baby who will soon be munching on low-sugar cereals and I'll be damned if I'm putting a GM product in her mouth! Are the generic cereals at all tied to GM? Are they distributed under another name but still manufactured by GM?
Also, my husband's co works with P&G - guess I'll sacrifice some profit sharing and switch to Huggies.
Thanks for all your research and hardwork - I'm forwarding a lot of this info on to my email lists!!

[JohnnyCougar]

45. mine...

Supporting Un-American propaganda.

I am aware of the current position of your business stating that Sinclair Broadcasting is showing a news clip "Stolen Honor." If Sinclair told you it was news, you were duped. "Stolen Honor" is nothing more than dirty propaganda that has been thoroughly discredited, and rebuked by Senators and former FCC officials. The film is currently being sued for libel, as it blatantly promotes oughtright lies. Since your advertising dollars pay the corporation that promotes libel, you will be held responsible by average citizens like myself. The man in charge of the group trying to discredit Senator Kerry was a Nixon stooge, and has been running a smear campaign against him for over 30 years. His charges had no merit then, and they have no merit now.

I encourage General Mills to stand up for democracy. Sinclair is BREAKING THE LAW!!! You cannot claim this is "freedom of the press!!" Pull your advertising now, or forever be remembered as sponsoring fascism!

Best Regards,

[vetwife]

46. This is strange..Read this Please

http://users.galesburg.net/~atkins/genmill.html


Industry Data

General Mills competes in the food processing industry. There are sixteen major companies that make up the industry. These companies, in alphabetical order, are: Campbell Soup Company, Chiquita Brands International, Inc., CPC International, Inc., Dean Foods Company, Dole Food Company, Inc., General Mills, Inc., Heinz Company, Kellogg Company, McCormick & Company, Inc., Pet, Inc., Pillsbury, The Quaker Oats Company, Proctor & Gamble, Ralston Purina Company, Philip Morris Companies, and Sara Lee Corporation.3,9,22,31


Am I reading this wrong? Heinz is part of General Mills.
Could Chris Heinz not stop this? Or are they competition? P & G is sponsoring that thing too with Sinclair. Odd !

[JohnnyCougar]

47. I don't think the Heinzes own the company anymore

she inherited the fortune of the owner.

[Merlin]

48. Just sent this to [e-mail]

Hello,

Your absurd response to an associate of mine urging "freedom of the press" for Sinclair broadcasting's smear of my fellow Vietnam combat veteran John F Kerry is not lost on me or on the 53,000 other members of our group, Democratic Underground.

As the CEO of an ad agency myself, I understand the responsibility we have to advertise in a socially responsible manner. You do not.

Sinclair's actions amount to "freedom" to smear without permitting equal time. This amounts to undemocratic behavior by a major media source. Further, their action constitutes a corporate campaign contribution of huge significance, and is thus a violation of federal law as well as ethical behavior.

Evidently your company fails to grasp the enormity of Sinclair's preposterous offense against this country.

Let me assure you that I will use every power at my command to inspire a continued boycott of every single General Mills product by every single member of our organization, and by as many others as I can possibly reach.

You, madam, are a sorry excuse for both a marketing professional and an American.

xxxxx

[Lorien]

53. Excellent!

:thumbsup:

[Roy]

49. Don't donate them.......

Organize a send back the products to the companies campaign. If they see truckloads of products dumped on their lawns, they will have something to weigh against the empty praise e-mails they get in support of this 90 minute campaign ad.

[IdaBriggs]

52. Just called and presented my case --

I supported you when people were lying about P&G 'devil worshipping' and I expect you to support the standard of truth as well. Its been discredited by the US Navy, so its just free advertising for Bush/Cheney. :) Ida