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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:50 AM
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CIA report on Bushist failures leading to 9/11 being withheld!!!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 11:51 AM by grytpype
Enough about Sinclair for a second! This is something to make a lot of noise about people!

Robert Scheer
The 9/11 secret in the CIA's back pocket
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17898
Agency withholds damning report that points at senior officials

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

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The official stressed that the report was more blunt and more specific than the earlier bipartisan reports produced by the Bush-appointed Sept. 11 commission and Congress.

"What all the other reports on 9/11 did not do is point the finger at individuals, and give the how and what of their responsibility. This report does that," said the intelligence official. "The report found very senior-level officials responsible."

Wouldn't you like to get a look at that report? I sure would! Let the blogging commence!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:54 AM
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1. Time for leaks.......
Goss won't release it and the upper echelon of the CIA can't....but the pros have a way with dealing with it.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:55 AM
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2. The existence of the report has been leaked...
... now let's see the damned report!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:30 PM
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10. Leaky leaky leaky leaky.....Heeeeere Leaky leaky leaky
I wish one of these guys would put it on the line and do a Daniel Ellsberg.

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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:46 PM
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20. LOL...
My question is did/does the 9/11 commission know about it and that is why, if they do/did know, * wouldn't answer their questions under oath??

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:10 PM
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3. I want bush to show some Personal Responsibility
NOW !
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:22 PM
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4. This must be job number one for Goss
According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.

stalled Just like the investigation into Tom Delay. Just like the FBI investigation into possibly treasonous acts.

And in a TOTAL UNDERSTATEMENT:

The failure to furnish the report to Congress, said Harman, "fuels the perception that no one is being held accountable. It is unacceptable that we don't have ; it not only disrespects Congress but it disrespects the American people."

"the perception that no one is being held accountable"??? It's more than a perception.


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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:23 PM
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5. Could this be John Kerry's Oct. 20th Surprise?
A poster here was saying that Kerry has something up his sleeve for the 20th.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:47 PM
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21. Could be Cheney
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:05 PM
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23. Too late for that.
Should have happened a long time ago. Bush cannot survive without Cheney. McCain is a jerk. People are not happy with his stance. The party will not go with McCain.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:19 PM
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24. I think you are probably right...too late
I wish Kerry would talk about what the 'surprise' might be to help dull any impact it may have, if indeed there is a surprise
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:24 PM
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6. kick
Yes, I'd like to get a look at that report. I think voters should see it before they vote.

:kick:
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nefarious Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:27 PM
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7. They were interested in terrorism
Quote:

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

Yes they were interested, but as a key to further their PNAC agenda and grabbing Middle East oil control before the Chinese. Call it LIHOP or MIHOP, but much more was known ahead of 9/11 about the individuals involved then the administration wants revealed.

Seems surprising that the CIA's report "throws Bush under the bus," since their hierarchies have been beneficiaries of the current fear mongering of potential terrorist plots... Maybe they want to deflect criticism since the 9/11 Commission's Report points the finger at a failure of intelligence and lets the administration skate. Either way, it's surprising that partisan Goss didn't have the entire report rescinded, or at a minimum whitewashed.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:29 PM
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8. Of course, how inappropriate would it be to learn of Imperial deficiencies
just prior to an "election".

</sarcasm off>

:puke:

Remember when America was free? It seems so long ago.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:29 PM
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9. This is a very big story
If Kerry mentioned this on the stump it would become a media story
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:49 PM
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22. And nothing gets 'leaked' unless someone wants it to.
I think the repugs are cracking.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:36 PM
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11. Bottom line w/the Bushies: positive info leads, negative info sinks
Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

Compare the story above with a HEADLINE article in Stars and Stripes last Saturday, a DoD survey reporting relatively positive military "satisfaction" stats. Fine print: the survey is 15 months old.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=24932
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:39 PM
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12. The CIA controlling information?! No!!! - n/t
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:55 PM
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13. Keep this kicked until it makes the mainstream media!
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:21 PM
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14. bumpidy...
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:00 PM
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15. Goss has one job. Keep the truth of our government's involvement
with 9-11 secret forever. There is no other reason for his being in that position.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:09 PM
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16. kick!!!!! n/t
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:12 PM
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17. If an official in the Chimp'sWH screws up, has he or she done any wrong
since no documents are released implicating him or her? I guess it is like that old tree-falls-in-the-woods-nobody-hears-it maxim. The answer to both is an unequivical YES...science proves the tree's sound is a set of vibrations that exist whether anyone hears it or not. And, if nothing else, the fact that the WH hordes ugly things about BADministation officials, is proof enough for me that there are some dirty doins down on PA avenue.
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soundfury Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:22 PM
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18. Kick NT
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petrock2004 Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:26 PM
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19. .wow.
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:44 PM
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25. Senate Intelligence Committee report withheld too
On July 9, 2004 the Senate Intelligence Committee released the first part of their report on pre-Iraq war intelligence. The report said most of the judgments used in the National Intelligence Estimate used to justify the Iraq war were either overstated or not supported by the raw intelligence reporting. Prewar intelligence regarding Iraq's threat to the United States was neither reliable nor accurate.

The second part of the Intelligence Committee’s report deals with how this faulty intelligence was used by the Bush administration.

The Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee decided to hold the second part of the report until after the November elections. In July the second half of their report was 80% complete.

Right after the official press conference by Senators Roberts and Rockefeller, the chair and co-chair, Democratic Senators Feinstein and Wyden held their own press conference to tell the rest of the story. I don't have a link, because I taped it on C-Span. I transcribed it and posted the highlights then:

Press conference by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) 7/9/04

SEN. WYDEN: (Senator Wyden shows page 50 from the report which is almost completely blacked out and he talks about the “wrestling” that goes on to get as much of their repot public as possible.) Finally, given the public interest and public attention in this matter, we were able to wrestle a substantial portion out. That is what you and the American people are going to see.

The fact of the matter is this is not a fair process and it is not a process that is in the interest of the American people. It is absolutely critical that documents that need to be protected from a National Security standpoint are protected. But again and again we see that a lot of times these documents are not protected for National Security reasons, they are protected for political security reasons to protect individuals from embarrassment.

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I think it is absolutely imperative that the second part of our report come out before the elections. The American people have a right to know how that faulty intelligence was used.

The reason why is because bad intelligence and bad policy are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. I happen to think that’s what you had here. You had faulty intelligence that was then independently compounded by an administration looking for every conceivable rationale for going to war.

So, a lot of people in Washington are betting that part two of this report won’t come out before the election. I just hope that the Congress insist that it does, that all of you and others are aware that the heavy lifting for the Committee is still ahead and we have got to get that second part that deals with how intelligence was used out.

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QUESTION PERIOD
(The senators were asked why they voted for the two part report in February. Sen. Feinstein said they didn’t think it would take this long and that the second half would come out so late.)

SEN. WYDEN: It was really a question of basic math. We didn’t have the votes (single laugh from Sen. Feinstein) in order to have them both come out together. I think it would have been in the public interest to have it come out together. It was just that simple.

I’ll also say though, that between now and November there is ample time to get this out. There is ample time to make sure that the two are linked.

Again, Senator Feinstein and I have spent a lot of time, both on the committee and in our work in the Senate, trying to be bi-partisan. You’ve heard us talk about two pieces of legislation - the question of a (CIA) Director and the legislation Senator Lott and I are pursuing. Unfortunately you cannot drain, this time of the year, politics out of anything and nobody is naive and suggests otherwise.

I do think that it is so important to the country - this question of how intelligence was used - that we’ve got to find a way to get this out. I think if people understand - first that its doable and how important it is - we’ll get it out before November.

QUESTION, EPSTEIN OF THE CHRONICLE: Senator (Feinstein), what’s your opinion of this? Should it be before the election?

SEN. FEINSTEIN: Oh yes, I agree with Senator Wyden.

QUESTION: What’s your impression of the Committee’s report, their work, their status? How complete are they in their findings of how it was used? 50%, 60%? I mean, do they have a lot of work to go? Not much work to go?

SEN. FEINSTEIN: I think the great bulk of the work has been done. I think probably 80% or more there. The rest is just taking these findings and relating them to how they were used by the administration. That’s pretty easy to do because you have the statements made publicly and those statements had to be based on intelligence. The only, I think, question mark in all of this is are there things the administration saw that we didn’t see? I mean, we know the president receives a daily brief that we don’t see. Otherwise, if there are any other items that they have received that we don’t have, that will have to be brought out in this study.

SEN. WYDEN: There’s one other point on this question on the next round ahead for the committee and how the intelligence was used. You simply cannot have accountability unless you get the second part of the report out. In other words, everybody had been talking, well, so and so has been absolved. It’s really the fault of this sector and not the fault of that sector.

The whole point of the second stage of the report is to get the accountability that the American people are asking for. Again and again they’ve said, we’ve heard for years - I mean literally - all of you can go look at your Lexis Nexus and you can see intelligence failures going back certainly two decades. There are remarkable parallels between reports that highlight intelligence failures.

The question is whether this time there’s going to be anything different and whether there’s going to be accountability and whether, in the future, people like yourselves and members of the intelligence committee don’t have to spend weeks and weeks trying to keep most of our reports from looking like that.* Because I can tell you, if it wasn’t for the public attention and public visibility, that we have been able to put on this issue, a good chunk of the report, in my opinion, would have ended up with huge sections blacked out. You got a page from the report right there.
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