After Kerry wins this November, will the Puke party have a schism?

[greekspeak]

I wonder, quite frankly, if the powers that be in the Puke party can hold together their fetid little coalition of fundevangelicals and big business. And once America wakes up and sees that a Post-Shrub America is, indeed, a lighter, brighter, more pleasant one, will the wingnuts turn on each other in back biting?

[Burma Jones]

1. They're splitting regardless..........................n/t

[TimeToGo]

4. Atlantic has an article on that this month

Atlantic Monthly has an article on what will happens to the party that loses this year.

[Kierkegaard]

2. Ultimately, don't they always?

Finger pointing is a hallmark of their breed. Look at their CiC. Never accept blame under any circumstances, and if necessary to add credence to your claims, attack someone else and act indignant.

[skylarmae]

3. if we make gains in the House and take the Senate back, maybe

we might make some progress. If things just stay as they are the repukes still control everything except the WH. Hard to maneuver anything at that equation. They might be cornered and then twice as dangerous. We must prepare for the backlash at us first before they start taking it out on each other.

[FightingIrish]

5. If * wins, the Republican brand will be tarnished forever

Moderates may have to form a new party free from the stink of the Bush disaster. It happened to the National Socialist German Workers' Party in Germany.

[DinahMoeHum]

6. The Washington Monthly says the GOP is going down, big time.

says they're in the same position as the Dems were in the late 1970's.

Link:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0410.wallace-wells.html

:kick:

[nickinSTL]

7. If the Dem win is big enough

I think if the win by the Dems is convincing enough, it will be the beginning of a split.

The main thing holding the traditional conservatives together with the neocons, IMO, is that they are currently maintaining power by letting the neocons run things. Once the neocons are no longer giving the Repubs that, the traditional conservatives will begin to consider whether staying with the neocon leadership is worth it.

Over time, if the Dems maintain power, maybe pick up the Senate this time, close the gap in the House, and take the House in 2006, then Kerry is reelected in 2008, that will probably be the actual split, I think. The traditional conservatives will have had enough.

If the win isn't big enough, the neocons will be able to hold on longer, I think.

(all of this is based on my own speculation...and I'm terrible at prognosticating, so take it with a grain of salt :D)

[Lefty48197]

8. God, I hope not! Their extremism will be the death of their party

good riddance to them.

[TexasSissy]

9. I hope the "normal" Repubs take their party back.

[drumwolf]

10. some say the GOP will have a schism if Bush wins

From the recent NYT article by Ron Suskind from last Sunday:

Bruce Bartlett, a domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan and a treasury official for the first President Bush, told me recently that "if Bush wins, there will be a civil war in the Republican Party starting on Nov. 3." The nature of that conflict, as Bartlett sees it? Essentially, the same as the one raging across much of the world: a battle between modernists and fundamentalists, pragmatists and true believers, reason and religion.

"Just in the past few months," Bartlett said, "I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do." Bartlett, a 53-year-old columnist and self-described libertarian Republican who has lately been a champion for traditional Republicans concerned about Bush's governance, went on to say: "This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them....

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?oref=login&oref=login

[Redleg]

11. Better question is "will the Dem party have a schism?"

Y'all know what I mean by that, right?

[Maiden England]

12. I echo the hopes that the real republicans will reclaim the party

This country desperately needs good old fashioned political debate and compromise policies. Educated and reasoned debate leads to educated and reasoned policies. That would be like a wonderful breath of fresh air.

[silverpatronus]

13. i think both parties are headed for splitsville

a lot of dems are saying 'this is the last time dems get my vote without earning it', and a lot of republicans are saying 'these jesus freaks and neocons are NOT taking over my party'.