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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:18 PM
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FLU-GATE: What did Bush know and when did he know it!
Now we hear that prisoners, Congress and Casino workers have been moved to the front of the line.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041020/ap_on_he_me/inmates_flu_shots_2

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=2452049

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/9960647.htm?1c

http://sask.cbc.ca/regionalnews/caches/pharmacist_flu_shots041019.html

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/nation/story/B95A7193959F835F86256F3200514CAE?OpenDocument&Headline=Some+federal,+state+prison+inmates+will+get+flu+shots

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=2449844&nav=15MVS9aI

http://www.kirotv.com/health/3831513/detail.html

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041019/ap_on_go_co/flu_vaccine_congress_1

This is an Outrage! How many Americans wil die because Bush outsourced the Flu vaccine and screwed it up? How is it that the United States has less Flu Vaccine than that third world country to the North Bush referred to...CANADA! Why is it that some people's lives are worth more to Republicans than others? Is a prisoner's life worth more than hard working Americans that follow the rules? Apparently so according to Bush's policies.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:34 PM
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1. it could be a PANDEMIC...this years vaccine is for Type A (H3N2)
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 08:36 PM by amen1234
Type A (H1N1) and Type B.....it was the Type A (H3N2) that caused the 1968 virus PANDEMIC...the vaccine is called "Fluzone"



Influenza illness typically resolves after a limited number of days for the majority of persons, although cough and malaise can persist for greater than 2 weeks. Among certain persons, influenza can exacerbate underlying medical conditions (e.g., pulmonary or cardiac disease), lead to secondary bacterial pneumonia or primary influenza viral pneumonia, or occur as part of a co-infection with other viral or bacterial pathogens. YOUNG CHILDREN with influenza infection can have initial symptoms mimicking bacterial sepsis with high fever and less than 20 % of children hospitalized with influenza can have febrile seizures. Influenza infection has also been associated with encephalopathy, transverse myelitis, Reye syndrome, myositis, myocarditis and pericarditis.

(from the Aventis Pasteur info sheet that comes with the flu vaccine bottle)
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:32 AM
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2. Uh, am I the only person outraged here? The only person who
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 12:34 AM by DemBones DemBones
realizes that the flip side of this being a public health disaster in the making is that it could restore our democracy by resulting in a Kerry landslide.

TALK THIS ISSUE UP! If you don't know why Bush must take part of the blame,
go to this site for brief talking points:

http://www.winningargument.blogspot.com


On Edit: Was everyone else offline when this was posted? I'm just asking why only amen responded. (At least it got an amen, but still. . .)
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:33 AM
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3. This flu shit is just the Chewbacca Defense...
We're once again being distracted from the real headlines.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:35 AM
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4. Wrong! This is a HUGE issue -- please read my post above. nt
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:47 AM
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5. Nope, you're wrong. This is only a big issue...
...because the media is making it so. The Kerry landslide will happen simply because of voter turnout. The only way bush can win is by stealing it again, and I don't think many people are going to let that happen this time.

Flu vaccines are designed at least six months in advance of flu season based on what strain is "most likely" to be the worst. They are only slightly more accurate than weather people in guessing which of the many strains in a flu season are "most likely" to be the worst. Even then, the most at-risk people are a minority of the voting population. I'm sure bush was incompetent and lied about it as per his modus operandi, but this is really just a distraction from the unnecessary Iraq war and the horrible failure of the economy.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:10 AM
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6. Apparently you are not part of the "minority" that needs the vaccine.

I am, due to multiple chronic medical problems.

Senior citizens are also high-risk and senior citizens vote in huge numbers. Whether this turns more people towards voting for Kerry or simply makes them decide not to support Bush*, this is an important issue.

Pregnant women are also high-risk, as are children under two years. I'm guessing parents of young kids and pregnant women and their husbands are going to be upset by this, too.

This is something that hits people at home. Most people, unfortunately, do not care much about people killed in Iraq, unless a family member is killed there. "After all, those people knew when they signed up they might get killed." They don't understand a lot of 'complicated' political issues (though they can probably tell you the rules for "Survivor" and "American Idol," plus the plotlines of dozens of movies and tv shows they've seen. What's the 4th Amendment? Zzzzzzzzzz.

But a possible flu epidemic that could potentially kill them or a close relative can get through to people. Its' already gotten through to outraged senior citizens.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:32 AM
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7. kick
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