Wake Up and Smell the Fascism...

[goodboy]

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1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

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3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Scary stuff...

[JLJ]

1. McCarthyism as well....

I've been called a socialist and a commie in the last week because of my Kerry bumper sticker. They're getting very non-tolerant and militant here in Texas. Any dissention is seen as an immediate threat.

[goodboy]

4. LOL! I was called a Commie Bastard by a kid with a "W" sticker

on his p.o.s. ride...he was at a stop light with his window down, and I looked over at him and said, "Bush is FINISHED" He yelled "Four more years, you commie bastard!" and RAN THE LIGHT!

[Paradise]

2. i'm gagging from it! n/t

[goodboy]

5. really puts it into perspective doesn't it? NT

[Paradise]

11. you certainly did, goodboy! n/t

[goodboy]

13. thanks. nt

[KurtNYC]

3. Fascism is capitalism in decay

The real crux is when corporations take over the government.

Yesterday, we saw Sinclair Broadcasting claim that they had First Admendment Rights. This is a totally erroneous argument. They are a corporation and as such they are not addressed by the Bill of Rights.

[goodboy]

6. bingo. I was wondering when someone would say it.

[Ezlivin]

9. Corporations ARE addressed by the Bill of Rights!

I agree with everything in your post, but you are in error when you say that "They are a corporation and as such they are not addressed by the Bill of Rights.".

A quote from Richard Robbins, Global Problems and the Culture of Capitalism, (Allyn and Bacon, 1999), p.100:

"Relying on the Fourteenth Amendment, added to the Constitution in 1868 to protect the rights of freed slaves, the Court ruled that a private corporation is a natural person under the U.S. Constitution, and consequently has the same rights and protection extended to persons by the Bill of Rights, including the right to free speech."

You can read more about the rights of corporations at: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Corporations/Rise.asp

Sad, but true.

[KurtNYC]

22. I stand by my statements

In 1886, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that it did "not wish to hear argument" on whether corporations were "persons" protected by the Fourteenth Amendment's due process guarantees originally intended to safeguard the rights of emancipated slaves. It simply asserted that corporations should be treated the same as people, at least for Fourteenth Amendment purposes. But it was not until the 1970s that the Supreme Court began extending First Amendment speech rights to corporations.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporations/FirstAmend_Follies.html

I'm not saying that corporations have not asserted those rights. I'm saying the Constitution was not written to protect the rights of corporations; it has been perverted to that end.

[bryant69]

7. So flying the American Flag makes one a fascist?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Interesting. What if I sing Yankee Doodle Dandy, is that going to push me a little more into a fascist.

As for number 3, thank goodness we liberals never get into a frenzy about a common threat or foe (like the freepers).

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[goodboy]

8. There's a difference between patriotism and nationalism...

Isn't that really the point they're trying to make?

[bryant69]

10. What is the difference?

Maybe that's too fine a line. I wish my nation to do good and to do well, isn't that nationalism?

[goodboy]

12. I don't think so. Wishing your nation to do well is patriotic...

Nationalism I would think is what is fueling the insurgency in Iraq.

[bryant69]

14. Is one good and one bad?

[Tyler Durden]

15. My spin:

Patriotism: The good of the country AND ALL OF ITS CITIZENS. And if the good of the country means NOT beating the damned drum every second, all the better.

Nationalism: MY COUNTRY, RIGHT OR WRONG, and screw all of the rest of you. Best embodied in the phrase, "Deutschland Uber Alles."

Now my question: If the WORLD eventually has a largely democratic (and hopefully, SOCIALIST) form of world government, is this worth your loyalty? Or is the concept of "country" and borders that vary and twitch every 10-100 years worth sacrificing that noble goal?

What price the ultimate good: WORLD PEACE and EQUALITY? No offense, but if the U.S. has to die for that to happen, save me a spot at the wake.

[bryant69]

17. Depends on what kind of equality you are talking about I suppose

Frankly if socialism has ever worked better than Capitalism, I haven't seen it. So I guess I'm not in favor of this theory.

Bryant

[Tyler Durden]

18. You have NEVER seen real Socialism in action.

So how can you judge how it works?

The closest anyone has come that I can see is Sweden, and since the rest of the industrial world did their best to trivialize them, I don't think it's been given a fair shot, do you?

[Eloriel]

21. Nationalism is patriotism on steroids

Or perhaps crack. :evilgrin:

To my way of thinking, it's a perversion of patriotism. And, it usually involves militarism (a little or a lot).

I like your explanation of Nationalism, Tyler.

[Q]

16. nationalism

nationalism

\Na"tion*al*ism\, n. 1. The state of being national; national attachment; nationality.

2. An idiom, trait, or character peculiar to any nation.

3. National independence; the principles of the Nationalists.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

nationalism

n 1: love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it 2: the doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other 3: the aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination 4: the doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals

[goodboy]

20. Definition 4 says it all I think....(nt)

[info being]

19. Yup. EOM