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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:23 PM
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I'll be honest..I was insulted by H. Clinton's cookie baking comment
I was a stay at home Mom and was literally baking cookies when I first heard Hillary's comment. She said something like, 'I could stay at home and bake cookies.' I thought about it for awhile and realized what she meant by that comment and I agree with her. I also agree with Theresa Heinz Kerry. Laura has not lived in the real world for much of her life. She lives in the same bubble as *. The wording of THK was not perfect but I agree completely. The media is creating another sensation out of nothing.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:25 PM
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1. That was not the best way for Hillary to make her point
but I knew what she meant.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:26 PM
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2. Teresa has already apologized with elegance.
And perhaps a touch of irony.

To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Sarah Gegenheimer of Kerry Edwards 2004, 202-464-2800

PITTSBURGH, Oct. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Teresa Heinz Kerry released the following statement today:

"I had forgotten that Mrs. Bush had worked as a school teacher and librarian, and there couldn't be a more important job than teaching our children. As someone who has been both a full time mom and full time in workforce, I know we all have valuable experiences that shape who we are. I appreciate and honor Mrs. Bush's service to the country as First Lady, and am sincerely sorry I had not remembered her important work in the past."

http://www.usnewswire.com/
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:29 PM
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4. Class, pure class! I LOVE Teresa! n/t
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captainjack Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:28 PM
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3. she made an incredibly offensive joke about gandhi owning a gas station
stupid joke and offensive towards gas station owning indians and gandhi admirers...nobody laughed at it. i hope she straightens her act before running for prez.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:30 PM
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5. Laura worked
She didn't get married until she was in her 30's, isn't that right? Teresa made a mistake and was gracious enough to admit it. We shouldn't go off on Laura on this, it would be a big mistake.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:33 PM
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6. Oh please. If you can be insulted by comments like that
you have problems with BEING a stay-at-home. I know real stay-at-home moms who laughed with Hillary, and they were offended by the people who whined.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:35 PM
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7. I stayed at home with my kids when they were little
and I worked until my first daughter was two and I worked as soon as my youngest entered school.
I think it's important to give EVERY mother or father the opportunity to stay at home with small children, not just rich folks like Laura Bush.

I also think that women who have never had to work or haven't in many years cannot fully appreciate the struggles of those of us that do.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:38 PM
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8. actually, I kind of see Teresa's point
to me, there's a big difference between working for a few years before getting married and working throughout your adult life. And I'm not discounting the incredibly hard work of staying home to raise kids. I did that. And I sure was glad to go back to work. Laura loves to refer to herself as a teacher. Well, my mother taught for over 30 years. That's a teacher. Maybe I'm not being fair, but Laura's main career has been the wife of a prominent man. And I'm sure that is a very difficult and demanding job. It just seems a bit precious of me when Laura is lauded as an authority on books and education because she taught for a few years. Most working women have considerably longer outside employment records. If you need an authority on education, there are more qualified people.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:49 PM
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11. Yep,
Laura stopped working as soon as she married W. And those kids didn't come along right away, either. I have an education degree and I only taught two years about 15 years ago. I sure don't present myself as an authority on education.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:05 PM
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13. however, if you decide
to return to teaching, I'm sure you'd be quite an asset. I wish there was more incentive for middle-aged people who have tired of their occupations to either return to or to take up teaching. I think these people would be very valuable in the classroom.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:42 PM
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9. If Teresa did make that comment, then I am glad she apologized
quickly for it. That wasn't a nice thing to say. But we all know the repukes will try and milk this comment for a long time.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:43 PM
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10. It can cut both ways.
I wish I had a dollar for every stay-at-home mom who has made a snide comment about a woman with a career and children, and how they insinuate they are bad mothers because they work outside the home or too selfish to have a right to be mothers or wives! And don't get me started on the SAHM's who have a problem with those of us who have chosen not to have children! So my point is, both sides can be mean and nasty. What women should do is support eachother and not be in competition to see who is a better woman. Its sad that so many of us still do this to eachother.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:53 PM
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12. That was many years ago...and many work days ago
This post was about recognizing how some comments are offensive. I was also trying to point out how the media overplays these comments.
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ladybugg33 Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:10 PM
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14. Why be insulted. She was right. We all make choices. Hill didn't demean
stay at home moms. They demeaned themselves by taking offense. We are all so quick to be "offended" we can never see anything from another's point of view. Remember, working moms were the first to be demeaned by those of us who decided to stay home. We alluded to them as poor moms with "latch-key" kids, feminazis, ruthless, hard-core, stealing jobs from our men, etc. We never thought about the moms who HAD to work outside the home. I think we all need to take a deep breath and stop attacking each other and accept a place for all of us. Read Hillary's comment in full context.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:14 PM
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15. Did you read my post?
If you did then I'm astounded.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:25 PM
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16. Out of curiosity, why the hell is Teresa still talking in public
Look, I like her. I think she is an interesting person who has led a fascinating life. But she is an absolute nightmare on the campaign trail. I don't know who she could possibly appeal to, and all she does is make Kerry appear more and more out of the mainstream. Can she go to a resort for the next few weeks? After the election, she can say all the bat-shit crazy stuff she wants.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:48 PM
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17. Being a mother is lots and lots of 'hard work'...harder then any
'real' job.....but YOU CAN'T GET FIRED. Nor sexually harassed. Nor demoted due to performance or the pressures of trickle down economics.
I am a mom, and I've worked in paid employment all my life.
There is a definite difference.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:14 PM
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18. That comment was taken out of context
Hillary went on to say that she has involved herself in public service to help ensure that women have the CHOICE to stay home of they want or work if they want. When you read the whole thing, it doesn't sound as snide, IMO.

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When it was suggested that her being a lawyer would somehow conflict with being First Lady, Mrs. Clinton made her famous remark that "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas." Unfortunately, this was the only part of the comment that was reported by the media. But Hillary had gone on to say that "...what I decided to do is fulfill my profession. The work that I have done as a professional, a public advocate, has been aimed ... to assure that women can make the choices ... whether it's a full-time career, full-time motherhood, or some combination." Thus Mrs. Clinton learned a bitter lesson about "sound-bites."

http://www.midtod.com/highlights/hillary.phtml
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