This idiot nation doesn't deserve John Kerry

[noahmijo]

Maybe I am going insane from 4 months of non-stop getting out the vote and dealing with right wingers virtually non-stop I am just getting cynical.

Today alone while tabeling on the UofA Mall here in Tucson, it was "family day" and of course more than half of these families that came to visit were good white "churshin" Repukes who made snide remarks and ran away after seeing our tent advertising John Kerry.



Here is view from inside our tent. Note my Powerbook playing "Going Upriver" to catch people's curiosity and come on over to see what the noise is about. We give out free copies (burned) of the movie to those who say they got repuke family or friends that need some convincing.

This movie also works well with convincing Naderites that when it comes to being anti-war, Nader is a nobody compared to Kerry.


Anyways back to what I was saying about how this nation does not deserve John Kerry and how I am just disgusted with more than half of this country.

The Repukes are one thing.

Then I also gotta hear from "Democrats" who don't like the fact that I engage Repukes when they try to cowardly run away after making a snide remark. I demand that they step up and defend the boy idiot.

They never can of course.

Then these "Democrats" say I'm too "harsh" I shouldn't you know be so aggressive when I confront them.

I guess asking them questions like why don't they give two shits our troops who are dying for lies, our firefighters who are used as an exploitation piece for Bush while his administration says FUCK YOU we ain't givin you no healthcare or raises.

In fact we're SLASHING your healthcare cause we can. The good ol boys need their tax cuts.


If only the base of the Democrats could be like YOU people here at DU. ANY of you fighters on here would be better suited to our Democratic leadership than the country club weaklings we got running the party now.

That is not to say we do not have some strong Democratic leaders. I know we do, but their coverage on C-Span isn't enough for me and overall there is not enough of them out there.

John Kerry is a fantastic man and I supported him since the beginning. Seeing "Going Upriver" only furthered my will to want to get him elected.

But with a good number of this nation, even if the polls are lying (which they are I know) still the fact that a good number of citizens are willing to slaugher goats for their beloved Bush just sickens me.

In conclusion all I can say is that honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that more good people, Americans and innocents abroad, will be hurt or killed with another 4 years of the Baby Satan, I would vote for Bush.

Why? because the group that makes up Bush supporters deserves to suffer under this man. They deserve to have their children sent off to die in Iraq at this point if they still support this bastard.

Sounds strong, but why should I speak kindly for those who scream " FOUR MORE YEARS!!" while kids my age die left and right, while innocent civilians who did nothing to me get bombed out of their own homes?

I have actually argued with women who say they'd be willing to send their sons to Iraq for Bush.

That's great lady, you can sacrifice your firstborn for King George, but I say go fuck yourself witch, because I don't feel like dying for this bastard's war should I become drafted when Bush becomes a lame duck president with a Repuke controlled congress and our forces are spread so thin because taking over the world takes alot of man power; more than we have.

So that's just it, these people deserves Bush, this nation that still supports Bush DESERVES the hell of what a second coming of Bush would bring.

Unfortunately it affects all of us which is the ONLY reason I refuse to allow a 2nd Bush term and will continue to do whatever I can to keep him from a 2nd term.

Lastly, after Kerry wins, I say we all demand that we take all Secret Service off of the Saudi Royal Embassy and put them on protecting President Kerry.

I don't doubt for a moment the neo-cons will be looking to kill him like they did Kennedy.

Also keep President Kerry the hell out of hardcore Red States.

They don't deserve to be in a good man's prescence

[goddess40]

1. This country might not deserve Kerry but the world does

we have to try and make up for the last 4 years of hell we put the rest of the world through.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. I agree. I would also say that we Americans who CARE about our country....

deserve better too. Afterall, we have worked so hard for this and we GIVE A DAMN about our future.

It's that OTHER HALF of the Country that is stupid, not us!

[TrustingDog]

4. it's way less than half. don't get polled.

[TrustingDog]

10. when Bush 'wins'...

and he will in some form or other (the PNACers have worked way too Hard for too long to have it all fly away at the whim of the great unwashed rabble fucking up their plans)
and if there is another event called an election in 2008, instead of banging heads against walls and voting in droves thinking You Matter, to be dissappointed yet again...

DON'T VOTE AT ALL. in droves.
Those succubuses hide behind this idea of democracy, show them up, don't show up. Show how disgusted you are and break down their façade.

[kokomo]

17. We need another Boston Tea Party. A nation-wide tax revolt is the answer!

They can't put 100 million Americans in prison if we all just refuse to pay our taxes. Without our money, the neoCons shrivel up and blow away.

[TrustingDog]

19. most people are too scaredy cat to do that...

the long arm of the law, the gov, and the banks has a painful grip on the intestines of most people.

Not voting is not illegal. yet.

[NMDemDist2]

2. whoa mijo! take a breath there man

i know it's frustrating and the level of idiocy is enough to make you bang your head til it bleeds

but read some of the articles about why people are republican and what they are afraid of. It takes patience and caring to lead them into the light

try saying your truth with a smile (like speaking to an amusing but misguided child) and think about what they are afraid of (you can tell if you listen closely)

then use that knowledge to gently reassure them their fears will be taken care of.....

[noahmijo]

5. I speak in a kindly fashion with Repukes who attempt to be rational

But I have had maybe one of two of those.

The rest have been hate filled assholes whose sole purpose is to bully and intimidate anyone who isn't exactly like them.

I don't take that kind of crap, sorry but I can't and I won't.

[Craig Roberts]

8. Uh..

"I speak in a kindly fashion with Repukes who attempt to be rational..."

Uh...hm. I guess it's good you're polite to the rational "Repukes."

[noahmijo]

13. Yes I call them repukes right to their face that's what I do

yup I do it without provacation as well. </sarcasm off>

How else would you refer to well educated 30 or 40 something year olds who still think Bush is God's greatest gift but they just happen to be polite so I respond in politely in turn?

[NMDemDist2]

16. well I wish I could tell you to let it go

but hell, I never do either when they made snide cracks I'm up in their face in a heart beat, all 5'2" of me LOL

[Craig Roberts]

6. You know...you seem a little angry....

Maybe your fellow campaign workers have a point? I mean, I don't know. I wasn't there with you, but if you are actually confronting people in the tone and using the language you used in this post, you probably weren't helping the cause any.

I am also very frustrated with the continuing support for an incompetent president. And I had a similar thought when watching "Going Upriver" - if the American people aren't smart enough to elect this guy over Bush, then maybe America simply doesn't deserve John Kerry.

But if you are out there trying to influence people's voting, you have to control that frustration and deal with people respectfully. And anybody who is disrespectful to you is providing you with an opportunity to show the clear contrast between us and them.

[noahmijo]

11. You're right you're not there so you really don't know

So when someone gets right in your face and starts to call you all sorts of names for being a Democrat when someone starts to make snide and ugly remarks at you just out of nowhere, I take you peacefully just back away and tuck tail and run?

Good for you, you're a model of what a good tolerant person should be, I wish I could be like that, but I can't anymore, I've been pushed too far by these types and I'm not taking it anymore.

[Craig Roberts]

15. Well

Not letting myself get dragged into a name-calling contest or losing my temper is not what I describe as "tucking tail and running." I call it maintaining my composure and taking responsibility for my own emotions. It's hard and it's not something I always succeed in, but I think adults are expected to hold the view that others are not responsible for our temper tantrums.

But I respect you for going out there and working for Kerry and I know it is really difficult dealing with some people. Just try not to let them get to you so much.

[sandnsea]

27. Been too nice for too long

I lost it with a 70 year old man, told him he was too fucking stupid to live on the planet. Mean you say?

I've listened to 8 years of hate, just bigoted and racist hate from this man. Not all the time, not even most of the time. Just one of those things where too many white people think they have permission to say ugly things around other white people. And too many white people, including me, have said nothing. For years we have let them fill up our email boxes with their cute little spam. We tried to be rational when they impeached a president over a blow job. We watched them pull out every dirty trick in the book to steal Florida, only to find out it was shit right out of Karl Rove's playbook and he's done it before. And they're doing it again. Then they spent 4 years undoing the work of 60 years of Democrats, work that people died trying to get done. Not to mention their happy little "freedom is on the march" war.

No, no more. We should have stood up to these people and told them they were hateful idiots YEARS ago. Maybe the nicey nice Democrats just haven't been in the trenches long enough, or maybe they still think you can reason with hate, or maybe they secretly feel the same way as these bigots. I can definitely say one thing, they need to get informed and pick a side. We're not backing down. No Retreat No Surrender. This isn't over on Nov 2, no matter who wins.

[Craig Roberts]

29. There's a difference

between taking a stand and losing your composure. If you want to rationalize an inability to stay cool and rational in the face of provocation by pretending it is a strength, that's up to you. I have been standing up to reactionary thinkers since I was a kid. But as an adult, if I can't control my temper I don't blame anybody but myself, and I don't pretend losing my temper is a sign of backbone. Quite the contrary.

That's all I'm saying. I understand the frustration, but losing your temper only makes you feel better while making the objective situation worse. It's a failure of emotional strength. Understandable in some situations, but counter-productive nonetheless.

[sandnsea]

31. Hey,

Let me give you a little lesson. Your self-righteous maintenance of your composure makes you a pompous ass, not right. And there are times that talk, talk, talk, talk, doesn't do a damn thing. Because some people are truly so despicable that they will go to any lengths to destroy you, being "cool and rational" every step of the way. Once in a while, you just have to say, "shove it".

[Craig Roberts]

32. What's obvious

is there's no point in talking to people like YOU. If I maintain my compsure I'm a "pompous ass?" "Talk, talk, talk" does no good but telling people to "shove it" accomplishes something?

You're obviously deeply committed to your rage. All I'm saying is don't pretend it's good for anybody but you. And the majority of us who can behave like adults find people like you a tad embarrassing.

[sandnsea]

38. What's obvious

Is composure did nothing to stop the onslaught of the right wing. Anger, sometimes loud and not too pretty, is what gave people the courage to stand up for what they'd privately believed. Constant composure simply does not work against fascists, never has, never will. Constant ranting doesn't work either, but an occasional "shove it" is necessary to let some people know you won't be pushed around anymore.

So when your wife and kids tell you to "shove it", maybe you'll remember what I've said. They're telling you that because your "composure" does NOT make you right.

[mitchtv]

7. my heart goes out to you

I avoid puke scum like the plague, that includes my brother, who I love,butcannot stand til theelection is over, and only if kerry wins. the are blind and deaf.

[neebob]

9. Oh, come on

John Kerry is not Mr. Perfect Gonna Fix Everything. It's great that you have such passion, and I admire that you're out there in your tent, trying to change minds. But the sad fact is most of them will not change. Isn't it better to leave them with a positive impression?

[Carson]

26. I agree. I'm still more ABB than I am pro-Kerry

He's got my vote but only because there really isn't a choice.

As for your "positive impression", you may as well save your breath. I, too, admire the passion but too many people mistake vitriol and hatred for a beneficial kind of passion. IMHO, it only makes the situation worse.

[Nicholas_J]

12. True, so true

I am exhausted from months of phone banking and now sign waving and I just want it to all be over soon.

A recent BBC program pointed out that Americans never vote by making rational decision
but on sheer emotion. Kerry would likely be the best leader this never would ever be graced with if he wins, but the morons who beleive whatever Bush says based on their emotional comittments to economic ideas that dont work at all is disheartening.

Any idiot can go back and look at the economic record as far back as the depression and see that
EVERY economic condition and indicator always improved vastly under democrats while stagnating under republicans. Amerca incvented the "CON MAN" the guy who gets yourconfidence through saying the lies you want to hear, and then robs you while you are blinded. It amazed me.

[Redleg]

14. Bravo! We need more like you. Keep up the fight!

EOM

[helnwhls]

35. what he typed

[steve2470]

18. Sound Bite: " Do your research, please"

That is going to be my mantra from now on when dealing with repugs and other clueless people. Saves my breath and reinforces the reality that WE, in general, are the informed ones

[agincourt]

20. I concur,

I think Clinton was too good for this sewage bucket of RW bubba trolls. They don't deserve any respect.

[liberalmuse]

21. Good for you!!!

Don't let the fascist fucks get away with their little 'hit and run' remarks. I'm sick of these assholes. There's such a thing as actually having to back up the bullshit you spew.

We will need all of this kind of fight we can get no matter what the outcome of this election. Facism is rearing its ugly head in this country from the 'faith-based' nitwits who don't know what's in their own damn Constitution (except for the 2nd amendment, but that's only because the NRA plasters it all over the gun shows they frequent.) are trying to turn this country into some kind of neo-con-run imperialist, fascist theocracy. I don't think so!

[Samantha]

22. This is the same rationale I have used to accept the fact Gore is not

running. In the overall scheme of things, this Country does not deserve Gore. At least 48 percent of it does not. I also feel Bush* has so debased the title of President of the United States, it is a title to which someone like Gore should not aspire. The good which Gore does now -- speaking out and telling Americans the literal truth -- far surpasses the benefit of his sitting in the Oval Office with a debased title and a restraint on his words.

I guess I am trying to say we feel the same way about our respective political heroes. Perhaps the poster above is correct saying the world does deserve better than Bush*, but should Kerry be deprived of his opportunity to serve in the same manner as was Gore, you will have to find a way to resolve how you will deal with it. It won't be easy.

[Utmost Certainty]

23. Hmm

That reminds me of how Adolf Hitler thought Germany didn't deserve him when they were losing the war in '44-'45...

[BiggJawn]

24. Rightous rant, Noah!

A Blue flame burns hottest!

[Eloriel]

25. Actually, I think the nation deserves a whole lot better than kerry

but I'll settle for him for starters (since that's the only viable option I have). But I'm not happy about it.

[RPM]

28. quite the opposite

they deserve a leader, not a shithead fuckwad.

[agincourt]

30. Ever notice that when a conservative republican,

is president, the asshole looks younger as his term goes on? That's because they just play with the gameboy and facilitate the corporations screwing the rest of the world. Kerry will look like a greyghost after two years of being president. For shrub, setbacks in his "selection" are probably the most stress he ever endures. Kerry ahead by 5% is probably more stress to him than thousands of Americans getting killed.

[Firefly2004]

33. They're Not Just Idiots, They're Collectively Psychotic

I have also felt despairing about the stupid and fascist tendencies of the people who support Bush and are not living in the reality-based community. It may help to understand them. This article helped me understand what is wrong with them: "The Madness of George W. Bush" http://www.alternativesmagazine.com/31/levy.html

[JohnKleeb]

34. I can't blame you for getting goddamn angry

It just sucks, I saw Going Upriver today btw, this guy and I mean Kerry is just so damn amazing, he is perhaps my favorite nominee since Kennedy we've had and my favorite in my life which is a certainity. He's just such a great guy who has some great ideas, and I think really does care. I just don't know how anyone could support Bush after all this. I see some of my friends and classmates looking at me like I am nuts when I promote Kerry as often as I can in government class, I get shit for being a blatant democrat and partisan, I refuse to say anything nice about Bush, I refuse to refer to him as the president in my papers, this country has elected so many great people in the past and supported so much great things, yet the idiots we got now think Bush the guy who is the antithesis of what I believe in as an American and Kerry, the true American hero who answered Jack Kennedy's call is regarded as aloof and arrogant. We just gotta elect Kerry, I try hard not to lose my temper but I don't blame ya for losing yours, it hurts.

[Firefly2004]

36. Get Mad and Do Something, But Don't Feed Hatred or Fear

It's like Luke Skywalker fighting Darth Vader. Don't give in to the dark side of the force. Be fierce without feeding fear and hatred. The Bush supporters are the way they are, because they are afraid and they are bonded with a strong father figure, dangerously conflating him with God. Yes, they can be hateful and fascist and yet self-righteous, no denying that. Be strong, be fierce, stand up to them - but just don't feed hatred and fear.

[sangh0]

37. That may very well be true, but

a smart nation doesn't need a smart leader like Kerry half as much as our nation of idiots does.