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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:25 PM
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Because of Bush no terrorist attacks in US after 9/11?
I keep hearing when watching TV that there have been no terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 because Bush has kept America safe.

On July 4th, 2002, an Egyptian, Hesham Hadayet, walked into LAX and opened fire on an El Al passenger line, killing 2 before a security guard shot him dead.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/04/national/main514292.shtml

But they say this was not terrorism. Despite that this is not the first time an Arab has walked into an airport and opened fire on an El Al passenger line. It has happened previously in Europe. If I recall correctly, Michael Moore said he actually witnessed one of these European shoot-em-ups.

The word games played are odd. 9/11 was terrorism, but to the Bush supporters, no terrorist attack since 9/11 has been a "terrorist" attack, thus, Bush has kept us safe.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:29 PM
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1. anthrax attack 10/01, AA 587 downed 11/01...
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 03:31 PM by amazona
...and in May 02 a gun-man walked into New Orleans airport and started shooting up the place, fortunately killing only one, injuring some others.

That;s 3 acts of terror on U.S. soil I can think of since 9-11 just right off the bat...

I'd forgotten about the LAX attack also...thanks for reminding me. The victims should not be forgotten.

On Edit -- and how could I have forgotten the D.C. terror which held the nation in fear for weeks just by picking off individuals in gas station? Turned out the D.C. snipers got at least one person right here in Louisiana, in Baton Rouge, as well as elsewhere across the country.
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:31 PM
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2. Victims of El Al shooter and Anthrax mailer
Might dispute that there's been no terrorist attacks since 9/11.

If they were around to dispute it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:31 PM
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3. Wasn't there a sniper incident in Spring 2003?
2 guys got some guns (terrorists are bad, y'all, but we have to protect the 2nd amendment and let everybody have guns! :crazy: )
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sisenor Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:32 PM
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4. As the election draws near, we are sure to hear more and more
of that from the Republicans. They couldn't say it before for risk that someone might strike and make them eat their words, but with so few days left, they are going to try to spin the lack of terrorists attacks to their advantage.

What's funny how they are trying to say that there are "wolves" out there, while at the same time that we are safer. It's like that psychiatrist said on "Fahrenheit 9/11", you do this to people long enough and they don't know just what the fuck to think. The American people are getting seriously psycho-fucked by the Bush campaign.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:35 PM
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5. There were no "terrorist" attacks on American soil for
8 years before Bush dropped the ball.

Between the WTC attack in 1993 (less than a month after Clinton took office) and 2001, there were NO foreign terror attacks on American soil.

If you wish to consider attacks in other countries, then those have actually INCREASED under Bush. More Americans have died from terrorism during the Bush administration than any other President in history. That includes attacks in Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Turkey, Bali, etc.

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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:37 PM
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7. And that always makes me wonder:
had Al Gore been in his rightful place would 9/11 have occured?
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:35 PM
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6. DESPITE Bush...
people will laud him for keeping us safe because intellectually lazy people can't look beyond the fact that there's been no further activity

They don't care if Bush has actually done anything positive, they just know nothing else has happened.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:40 PM
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8. Nonsense
Anthrax attacks

The Shoebomber (semantics)

LAX shooter

DC snipers

Mail-in ricin attack against the White House Dember 2003

Mail-in ricin attack against Senate Majority Leader's office 2004

Did I forget any????
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:47 PM
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10. American Airlines 587
I think I have that number right...came down in November 2001 in the firefighter's neighborhood in New York. 200-plus killed. New York is still American soil to my accounting although most of the passengers were Dominicans. A story was spun at first that the Airbus was no good, but it was quickly established that the Airbuses fly just fine, and indeed they are flying merrily along today.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:20 PM
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11. My husband is a Captain on the airbus
He has never believed the "official story", he actually flew that same aircraft on Saturday before the crash, he knew Sten Molin, the co-pilot and said Sten was one of his favorite co-pilots. I remember flying to London with Sten, great guy.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:41 PM
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9. It's a terribly hollow, disingenuous argument
It took several years for Al Qaeda to plan the Sept. 11 attacks. Just because there have been no attacks on the US in the three years since that day DOES NOT MEAN that someone, somewhere is NOT busy planning some other attack against the continental US or even assets of the US abroad.
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Astrochimp Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:25 PM
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12. When all else fails, mutter the name "Clinton."
I love this quote I got from a post on DU.


Clinton stopped Islamist Terrorist attacks on US Soil from February 26, 1993(first WTC attack) to January 20, 2001 (Shrub Inauguration day) or 2885 straight days - even while getting a hummer!

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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:27 PM
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13. My God
There should have never been a 9-11, and for those who say "It was a good thing * was the pres instead of Gore" I say Fuck you. If Gore had been President it would not have happened. No one has gone back and read the Gore report from 1997, they should and they should see some of the things that were recommended for the airlines about security but were lobbied against because of cost. This administration has been a disaster for security and a fucking boon to the investor class and corporate America. It is amazing how lazy America has become, anyone who did any amount of research on the candidates would not be even considering *. As Repukes they would be voting the the * out so that they could nominate a moderate and take their party backin 2008. My opinion is that anyone who votes for the * is either lazy or selfish. Family members included.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:29 PM
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14. bush was so-called president on Sept 11 - a terrorist
attack - bush is responsible.
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FATNED Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:36 PM
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15. Terrorists have killed over 1100 Americans...
We're constantly told that the insurgents in Iraq are terrorists. Seems we have daily terrorist attacks on Americans in Iraq, mostly soldiers but many civilians. These are attacks that would not have occurred without Bush in the WH. Thousands of Americans dead and wounded in terrorist attacks on this prick's watch.

I agree with all of the previous arguments as well, esp. that we went 8 years after the first WTC bombing with no attacks on out soil. I assume these fuckwits won't give Clinton credit for that.

Bush gives terrorists giant, raging hard-ons.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:40 PM
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16. No terrorist attacks after 9/11
What do they call those Anthrax attacks that happened after 9/11, love notes?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:48 PM
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17. I'm bookmarking this
This could be very useful, gathering up all of the terrorist actions that have taken place since 9/11. We should gather a complete factual list and work on a mass email campaign to the news agencies in the hope they will do a story on it.

I also see that people that scream that the Democrats are weak on terrorism and won't keep them safe always fail to mention the LAX Millennium Plot that the Clinton administration thwarted.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 04:52 PM
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18. The only reason we had one on 9/11 is because Bu$h allowed it.
He has had no reason to let terrorists attack us since 9/11, because it would not be politically beneficial for him.
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yellowdog Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 05:17 PM
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19. They always seem to forget
that the World Trade Center was bombed 6 weeks after the Big Dog took office but there were no more attacks on American soil until 9/11. Since there was over 8 years between the 2 attacks I don't think * should be patting himself on the back just yet. One big difference between the original WTC bombing and 9/11 is that Bill Clinton did not try to blame it on Shrub's daddy.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 05:20 PM
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21. Great point.
All around, great points.

And besides, if the only good thing someone has to say about Bush is that we havent all been killed in a massive terror attack, then maybe they should really reconsider their support of that asshole.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 05:19 PM
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20. Except for the anthrax killer and beltway sniper
Of course. But, I guess that's not "terrorism".
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