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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:03 PM
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Professors to present case for Wellstone political assassination.
On October 25th, on the two year anniversary of Wellstone’s crash, Authors Jim Fetzer, the distinguished McKnight Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota and Four Arrows, aka Don Trent Jacobs, Ph.D., Ed.D. associate professor at Northern Arizona University will join Publisher Sander Hicks in Washington to reveal about what really happened that day. At the National Press Club, they will announce publication of "American Assassination: The Strange Death of Senator Paul Wellstone".

Monday, October 25th, 12 Noon
National Press Club • Holeman Lounge
529 14th St NW • Washington, DC

http://drenchkiss.com/wellstone_conference.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:07 PM
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1. Thanks kokomo and did you see where Sen Dayton was yesterday?
WTC Rescue Hero Sues Bush and Others under RICO Statute


By: Philip J. Berg, Margaret Atheling Rowe
Published: Oct 23, 2004
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On September 11, 2001, William Rodriguez, a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center in Manhattan, single-handedly rescued fifteen people. The only employee with the master key to the North Tower staircases, he led firefighters up the stairs, unlocking doors as he went, aiding in the evacuation of hundreds of additional people who, but for his efforts, might have perished. Although his job description did not include saving lives, Rodriguez re-entered the building three times after the first plane struck, and was the last person to exit the North Tower alive. He survived the collapse of the North Tower by diving beneath a fire truck to avoid the avalanche of concrete and steel. After onsite treatment for his injuries, Rodriguez plunged right back into rescue efforts at the site. At dawn the next morning, Rodriguez returned to Ground Zero from his home in Jersey City, to continue to aid in rescue efforts.

Later, Rodriguez became an unofficial spokesman for survivors, among other things helping to secure an amnesty for undocumented aliens, many of them Latinos, and in the creation of the World Trade Center Memorial Fund. Although he lost his job of 19 years and his means of livelihood — even falling into homelessness for a time — Rodriguez has continued in the three years since 9-11 to continue his work in honor of the heroes and the victims of that awful day, as president of the Hispanic Victims Group, Director of the 9/11 United Services Group, and member of the Family Advisory Council of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

Now, this native of Puerto Rico and remarkable American hero is taking his 9-11 activism to an even higher level. He has commenced, as Plaintiff, a federal court lawsuit against George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld and others alleging that they and others were complicit in the 9-11 attacks, and either planned the attacks, or had foreknowledge of the attacks and permitted them to succeed, in order to exploit a “New Pearl Harbor” to launch wars against Afghanistan and Iraq. (The phrase “New Pearl Harbor” comes from a declaration of principles by the neo-conservative “Project for the New American Century,” in which it is proposed as an event needed to steel American public opinion to support the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and U.S. military domination of the Middle East.)

Attorney Berg acknowledges that Rodriguez’s action will shock and offend many Americans. But he urges critics to read the detailed complaint, posted on the internet at www.911forthetruth.com, before forming conclusions. “The ‘Official Story’ of what actually took place on 9-11 is a lie,” Berg flatly maintains. “We do not pretend to have put together a full and definitive account of how, and by whom, the attacks were carried out. But information reported in mainstream media, and viewed in the light of common sense and the laws of physics, demonstrate that the ‘Official Story,’ examined closely, is not credible. The ‘Official Story’ contains an alarming number of inconsistencies and implausibilities. The major media have reported many of the raw facts, but have studiously avoided analysis, because doing so would reveal that the government is lying to us. The 9-11 Commission, a suspect collection of government and intelligence insiders, restated without question or examination all essential elements of the ‘Official Story’ of the actual events of 9-11. It failed almost completely to refute, or even to mention, the great body of evidence that suggests the ‘Official Story’ cannot be true, and it failed completely to hold anyone accountable. From the foregoing facts, it ought to be obvious that a cover-up, or a “limited hang-out” admitting only bureaucratic mistakes for which no one is to be held accountable, has taken place and is continuing.”

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http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_14643.shtml

Update (06/15): Rodriguez "swears he saw United Airlines Flight 175 hijacker Mohand Alshehri in June 2001"

In a recent event by 9/11 Citizen's Watch, which got broadcasted on C|Span, William Rodriguez from the 9/11 Hispanic Victims Group and 9/11 United Services Group, claimed, he not only recognised suspicious movements from a floor under construction, some weeks before Sep11th, he also claimed, he saw one of the official Sep11th -"hijackers". Today Rodriguez testified for the 9/11 panel

June 8, submitted by 9/11 family members

"...I testified today for the 9/11 Commission. It was an experience to have the investigators listen and to actually concentrate on some of the problems with the building itself. I know we have been very vociferous about the construction and the problems with egress and escape.

Some of the statements I got were in the sense of why they did not speak to me before, and the need to continue interviews with survivors and first responders. When we spoke about the subpoena powers, I was told that they haven't issued any to actual survivors or first responders because they understand the emotional impact and the problems it had created for their families...


In my experience, I was able to set the record straight in a lot of statements and errors from the fire Dept. We talk about the radio problems, doors not opening up, vacant floors, debris on the stairwells and my interviews with the FBI about seeing one of the hijackers in the building 3 months before. In short, I expect to be called again..."


William Rodriguez -Hispanic Victims Group

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/print.php?storyid=385
Board of Directors
Officers

William Rodriguez

William Rodriguez, formerly an American Building Maintenance employee for twenty years, was responsible for inspection and maintenance at the World Trade Center and held the master key for the stairs. He was the last person to leave the building on September 11 and has been credited with saving many lives.

For his efforts, he received the National Hero Award from the Senate of Puerto Rico. Since September 11, Mr. Rodriguez has been very active in all aspects of the relief efforts, including the memorial, the federal fund and the charities, as well as appearing before many government officials on such topics.

Mr. Rodriguez has also helped coordinate aid within the Hispanic community, organizing the Hispanic Victims Group, which is working with 150 families. He attended Sacred Heart University and lives in Jersey City, NJ.

http://www.9-11usg.org/article.asp?id=707&page=DIRECTOR

http://www.summeroftruth.org /


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:31 PM
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5. Sigh.. The Mariani case didn't go anywhere (was she intimidated?) so
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 11:34 PM by KoKo01
why should we get excited over this. They couldn't even get anyone but Fox to attend the press conference with Mariani, so now we have internet sites once again linking to another lawsuit, but no mainstream attention.

I'm tired of getting excited about these "lawsuits." They never go anywhere. The "9/11 Commission Report" will be the "final word" and there are too many congress critters of both parties who've been involved in covering up and stalling any investigation into anything the Bushies have done.

Where were the Senate and House Intelligence Committees when we know they saw the reports or at least heard leaks that the intelligence on Iraq was faulty. They don't say anything but release their own report mostly corroborating "9/11 Commission" and the "reasons for giving Bush authority to go into Iraq.

This will be discounted as "Conspiracy Theory" by agitators looking to make a buck and we will have years before another Commission is put together to get the truth out. Look how long it took to get a second commission to look at the first faulty "Warren Commission Report" about JFK's assassination. And, we still don't have the truth.

Hate to be discouraging, and would like to think that the "internet" would speed up the information gathering...but it's the same old stonewalling they always get away with in covering up truth to the American people. :-(
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:47 PM
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7. I messed up Sen. Dayton was at this event
SOLVING 9/11 Crime - Citizens’ Grand Jury" International Experts Convine


SOLVING THE 9/11 Crime - A Citizens’ Grand Jury" International Experts Convene to Present Evidence in Los Angeles

911TruthLA.us presents "SOLVING THE 9/11 Crime - Join the Citizens’ Grand Jury". International Experts Convene in person & on video to Present Evidence in LA. Sat. Oct. 23 5 -11 p.m. Press Conference 4 p.m. Bob Hope Patriotic Hall, Los Angeles. In Person - Authors and Researchers Webster Tarpley, Chris Bollyn, Barbara Honegger, Jim Hoffman, Don Paul. On Video: Mindy Kleinberg, David Ray Griffin, Paul Thompson, Nafeez Ahmed, Michael Springmann, Sen. Mark Dayton. Plus New Book Premiere of George Bush: The Unauthorized Autobiography.

Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) October 24, 2004 -- 911 TruthLA.us, a 9/11 research website, is presenting a conference on alternative viewpoints on 9/11 Saturday, Oct. 23 in Los Angeles. The title of the event is "SOLVING THE 9/11 Crime - A Citizens’ Grand Jury." Materials will be presented by a dozen authors and researchers on 9/11, five in person and the others on video.

The event takes place following a 4 p.m. press conference at the Bob Hope Patriotic Hall, 1816 S. Figueroa @ Washington - Los Angeles 90015, from 5 pm – 11 pm. For further details call 818-784-3623

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http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/10/emw171030.htm
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:08 PM
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2. I wonder if this will get any press from major media n/t
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:22 PM
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4. Don't Hold Your Breath n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:13 PM
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3. This is exactly whay these bastard thugs must not be allowed..
...to get away with these types of activities any longer. They must be hunted down, arrested, charged and prosectuted for the criminal and treasonous acts.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:37 PM
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6. Oh, hooray, hooray
Sends chills down my arms and spine. HOORAY!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:51 PM
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8. accident?
I think not!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:28 AM
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9. If Dems are REALLY Dems, we don't hesitate to support these people.
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 05:23 AM by shance
So how many deaths have we let slide under the radar? Let's begin counting.

Let's start with John F. Kennedy, Malcom X, Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy,.......

Oh, an aside for the younger DU individuals, Both MLK and Bobby died within months of each other in the same year of 1968. MONTHS.

Put that in perspective if that happened today, if two of our greatest, most influential leaders were gunned down in broad daylight today in such a short span of time.


How would that affect you? How would you cope with such an assault on your beliefs in your country and what you had been brought up to believe it stands for?

I must of course add all the kids in body bags that were returning from Vietnam, and the other acid to the wound was the election of Richard M. Nixon, who became our next president. He promised to stop the war. And, guess what, he lied. Young, innocent and idealistic young men continued to die in total needless vain.

Think that in 1963, the death of a hugely loved leader, two more mind-numbing deaths would hit an already mourning America, along with such a needless, profit driven war.

Perhaps I understand now why many in the sixties activism movement, turned away from the pain the sixties brought, and searched for a safer, more *secure* route, and found comfort and simplified, sensible structure in making money and succumbing to ensuring their material success.

I would imagine those activists, who had given their young lives, thought (or subconsciously reacted)their solution was to change course and deny the realities of the past, and deny that those significant deaths had been as influential on their lives as they actually had been.

They probably committed to themselves they would never hurt as painfully and as much as they did when they saw their leaders and to many their heroes like John Kennedy, MLK, and Bobby Kennedy die, along the needless, inexplicable deaths in Vietnam, and their hopeful beliefs in America being shot down along with these exceptional humans.

It was too painful to believe their own leaders and what they believed in and stood for, were being shot down, one by one, tick tock tick.

I would imagine there could have been a slow, but heart healing process to such heart breaking events: to acknowledge the truth and to learn from it.

As we know there was NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, but what ocurred was an abandonment,denial and erasure of the Vietnam troops who returned,and an blindingly overzealous anxious capitalistic campaign which was committed to designing and continuing to promote a more glittery, glamorous world.

What resulted was to glaze over the wrongdoings of the sixties by further promoting and creating an essentially sanitized nation, and ignore the realities which ocurred between 1963 and 1969.

Realities, that could have actually brought some redemption, and humbled and eventually brought much needed healing to our nation. Perhaps if and when we can acknowledge our flaws, we can begin seeing the value in true humility and likewise, the value in our tremendous mistakes through our own arrogance and ignorance. Then and only then will we have the capacity to become truly authentic and real. I believe other countries that have gone through extreme arrogance have then gone through extreme humility and hence, authenticity. Seems to me Germany can teach us a few lessons in that regard. I think the real test will happen I believe only when the value and quest for materialistic success and power the almighty dollar is superceded by the quest for truth and what is real.

Seems to me, because I was pretty young during Vietnam, what many, if not most Americans failed to realize, was by allowing those deaths to go UNVALIDATED, they paved a path for other good leaders to be even more vulnerable to either spirit-breaking slander or perhaps worse, by death itself.

Each time we ignore the truth, the lies multiply and become more powerful and emboldened in both number and ease in creation. That is why we are where we are today.

When will we ever realize the heartache that has hit this nation between the eyes and learn to see the invaluable worth there, and come together as we never have before? If we don't, we are done.

It has so little to do with parties.

And, with this thread, I see more destructive cynicism and even some whining self-pity because these individuals who confront the truth about Senator Wellstone, that few if any confronted with regards to Senator Carnahan, are willing to speak out and take a risk and DO. Is it not GOOD enough or FAST enough for those of you who criticize?

I for one, am so heartened to see these brave people coming forward and speaking their truth in a world right now that is increasingly demanding uniformed and sanitized voices.

Remember, if you choose to join opponents of what are clearly realities even those that search for and demand the truth, the lies will only increase in their power and numbers, and ultimately, the real history of what has actually ocurred is erased from the books BECAUSE of the lack of support and ultimate cowardice to stand by these individuals.

It creates one more huge resistant hurdle for the truth and peace and prosperity to tackle. Arent there enough hurdles?
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