KlatooBNikto
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Mon Oct-25-04 10:48 AM
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Why is it that our corporate CEOs even those with lousy track records |
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feel entitled to salaries, bonuses, perks and stock options that the best executives of Japanese Corporations do not even think about? For example, the CEO of GM, a company that produces the least liked cars in the market gets more than twenty times the compensation of the CEO of Honda one of the most admired and innovative corporations around.
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Mon Oct-25-04 10:53 AM
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1. to piggyback, why is that when they fail, they get fired with multi- |
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million dollar buyouts? It's infuriating. Oh, but let's cut off those "wellfare queens". What complete and utter bullshit.
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leftofthedial
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Mon Oct-25-04 10:54 AM
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2. capitalism in the US is more advanced |
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than in Japan
they haven't achieved the maximum greed potential yet.
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Mon Oct-25-04 10:57 AM
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3. Yet their technology is much more advanced... |
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Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 10:57 AM by Solon
Honda, as mentioned above, built the first working humanoid robot for crying out loud. Ours robots can barely navigate a single room on wheels.
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Jose Diablo
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Mon Oct-25-04 11:00 AM
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4. Well, Laura seems pretty advanced for a robot n/t |
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Mon Oct-25-04 11:15 AM
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6. So, what does advanced technology have to do with capitalism? |
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If there were a connection, we'd all be driving little, highly efficient cars powered by H2 fuel cells, getting our home power from solar panels & wind turbines, running farms off fuel cells powered by the methane the farms produce from manure, etc.
Capitalism is one of the major obstacles to the development of technology. They're not gonna move us off oil until it's all sucked up, then on to nookyoolar energy because guess-who owns the Uranium deposits, etc.
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leftofthedial
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Mon Oct-25-04 11:50 AM
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8. capitalism is THE major obstacle |
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Mon Oct-25-04 12:11 PM
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11. it's cultural, not evolutionary |
leftofthedial
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Mon Oct-25-04 10:49 PM
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12. so there's no greed in Japan? |
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no avarice?
their culture is more social and "team" oriented and promotes the group over the individual
but they still have competition, ealousy and greed
their culture may slow the adoption of some characteristics of the economic system we gave them, but capitalism definitely does evolve and it evolves for the worse
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Mon Oct-25-04 11:05 AM
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5. Because the boards are made up of the same type of shameless greedheads. |
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And usually they have enough shareholder proxy votes to control the whole process.
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Mon Oct-25-04 11:17 AM
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7. Because they are all big, fat, bloodsucking pigs at the trough. |
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Mon Oct-25-04 11:58 AM
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9. Because we now have a hereditary corporate executive class |
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Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 11:59 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
whose only education has been in business school. They are totally focused on money and have no other values.
The days when CEOs were either founders or people who had worked their way up the ranks within the same company are gone. Now Myron Moneybags, son of a corporate bigwig, starts as an MBA in finance, takes a position at corporate headquarters, makes it to CEO, stays a few years, maximizes dividends to shareholders by any means necessary, and on the basis of that "success" is hired to be CEO at another corporation. Or else he runs a company into the ground, is fired with a "golden parachute," and is hired as CEO at another company, meanwhile acting as a board member for his college roommate's company. Or something like that.
They no more understand or sympathize with the lives of ordinary working people than the feudal lords understood or sympathized with the lives of their serfs.
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Mon Oct-25-04 12:03 PM
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10. the hirers and firers and ceos are the same people. |
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Mon Oct-25-04 10:51 PM
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13. They have a law in Japan |
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The CEOs there can only make so much more than the average worker. Plus the Japanese culture tends to lean towards modesty and honor even among the upper classes.
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