Kerry honored at communist museum?

[Elbowroom]

my wife said she just heard a co-worker talking about this. anybody know what this is about?


She also hear dabout Kerry voting against Vietnemese rights. Know anything?



I searched but didn't find any credible info.

[flyingfysh]

1. both Kerry and McCain have photos at a museum in Vietnam

This has to do with their visits after the war to find remains of missing servicemen.

[Elbowroom]

3. link?

Do you happen to have a link?

[AIJ Alom]

2. No he is not !!! That is a lie uttered by Swift Boat Liars !!!

Why the heck would the Vietnamese communists honor John Kerry for his contribution to their victory with a photo from 1993 captioned: Communist Leader (i forget the name) meets with congressmen and veterans delegation ?

Yet in the same museum we have photos of Jane Fonda taken in 1971 and David Wilson (a draft card burner) in 1965 with their names mentioned in the captions ????

The Swift Boat Liars are trying to distort the truth !!!

[AIJ Alom]

4. Kerry gave his testimony in 1971. Yet the Vietnamese who obtained photos

of Jane Fonda with Madame Binh and David Wilson burning his draft card, couldn't obtain a photo of Kerry at his 1971 testimony even though he was on national tv ?

WHAT A CROCK !!! Friggin Swift Boat liars. Kerry had nothing to do with the Vietnamese victory !!! Otherwise they would have gone to extraordinary links to honor him !!! 1993 photo without his name even mentioned anywhere in the museum. Gimme a break.

Kerry and his fellow VVAW soldiers wanted to bring their "brothers home" in 1971 !!!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

5. I'm surprised that the wingnuts are still using that "Communist" slur

For one thing, both Vietnam and China allow wide-open freedom for business and commerce while repressing people politically. This makes them more fascist than Communist, no matter what they call themselves.

Yes, Kerry and McCain are in the museum because of their efforts to find MIAs.

As for "voting against Vietnamese rights," that may be a distorted characterization about voting for diplomatic recognition of Vietnam. In the end, only the Vietnamese government can do anything about "Vietnamese rights," and these things tend to play out on their own timetable, no matter whether the U.S. recognizes a government or not.

For thirty years, the U.S. government refused to give diplomatic recognition to mainland China. China was barely inconvenienced by that and put forth some of its most repressive policies during the 1949-1979 period: the anti-landlord campaign, forced collectivization, the Great Leap Forward, the ensuing famines, and the Cultural Revolution.

[BeatleBoot]

6. What else have they got?

A record to run on?

[Elbowroom]

8. no joke

that is the truth!

[Elbowroom]

7. i did find some info

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1848/vietnam.html

[6th Borough]

30. OKay...you expect me to click on a Geocities site?

:eyes:

[Elbowroom]

32. Why not?

It seems pretty informative. The other sites that I found were Freerepublic and WorldNetDaily.

[sangh0]

9. You are actually worried about this?

yeesh!

[Elbowroom]

10. worried...no, not really.

I just know that this is now going around my wife's office and I can only imagine that nobody in the office knows the context of what took place. I am just trying to find out for myself, so I will know and so I can also inform my wife.

[sangh0]

11. Why?

Is your wife going to base her vote on whether or not Kerry is honored in a communist museum?

[Elbowroom]

14. no....

but it seems that some people in her office who are ridding the fence might.

[chiburb]

16. No, she'll base it on how many DUers and others

Are distracted by a thread that gets RW rumors onto the internets...

;-)

[Elbowroom]

17. outside of the internet, it is working

don't downplay it too much.

[chiburb]

20. Don't be so modest!

I believe that this talk doesn't even exist outside of the internet, and that it exists on the internet BECAUSE YOU POSTED IT HERE!
Good job!

[Elbowroom]

22. hahha

right...I just made all this up so I could waste my lunch hour.

[sangh0]

29. So we're to believe that crowds of women are upset about this

when no one we know are talking about this?

Yep, I believe ya!

[chimpy the poopthrower]

12. There is only one response to any Right-Wing garbage like this:

And it must have been said a million times on this board. Ask them to prove it. See, anybody can make up anything about anyone. And you can't disprove a negative. If anyone says anything to you in the future that sounds like BS, ask them to prove it. If they provide you with some evidence, THEN you can come to DU to discuss it and we can evaluate the "evidence".

One more tip: www.snopes.com.

[Elbowroom]

15. believe I know how that is....

but you know..they "heard it on the radio". Some people just don't understand how the Rove machine works.

[chimpy the poopthrower]

19. They don't even need to understand that.

If your wife wants to respond to this, all she has to say to this person (in earshot of everyone else who heard this person's propaganda) is "I told my husband what you said about Kerry and he looked and looked but couldn't find any verification of that. Do you know where he could find some proof of this story?" Or, your wife could simply say to them all, "If you want to base your votes on unsubstantiated rumors, that's your prerogative. If you want to look around you and see all the jobs that have been lost, see all the soldiers who've been killed and maimed in Iraq where we haven't found any WMD, see the civil rights we are all losing, see our schools that don't have enough money because Bush chose not to fund NCLB... etc."

[Elbowroom]

21. hahha

she prettty much already did that. Thanks. Co-worker's response ="Oh...I don't know much about it...just that Kerry was honored by communists."

[Name removed]

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[Elbowroom]

25. what?

I am simply responding to posts made in the thread. I didn't realize that I was supposed to ignore them. Am I supposed to ignore them?

If there is a way I can respond to posts directed to me without bumping the thread, I would like to know ho wto do that.

[karlrschneider]

26. Don't worry about it, your question was perfectly legitimate because that

"report" is widely spread around here too (eastern Okla). Some DUers get a little hyper at timess (moi included) :D

[JHB]

27. Gee, someone engages with people who respond to a thread they started!

How odd! (/sarcasm)

Sorry, chimpy but you're leaning heavily over the line here. As far as I've seen, all that's happening here is normal back& forth between people. Perhaps I should alert on YOUR post because by unfairly casting aspersions on Elbowroom you've prmpted ME to respond (thus bumping the thread up once again).

Thanks for the "guard duty", but THAT level of scruitny for provacateurs just wastes everybody's time.

[Cadfael]

13. The good old "some people say" ploy

The Rove slur machine has perfected this....the question is: why are we even discussing the stupid rumor here?

[RetroLounge]

18. WTF???

:wtf:

RL

[lastliberalintexas]

24. I've heard this from coworkers too, Elbowroom

I'm sorry that some people have simply taken to attacking you, but this has been a crazy election. Don't hold it against them!

Just keep pointing out the facts to these coworkers, even if they are lost and will vote Shrub anyway. At least then you can say that you tried. And if all else fails, just send them a link to an enlistment form. (I've been trying for 6 months, and have yet to get a repub to take me up on the offer to help them fill one out.)


On a side note- People on this board who are in the bluer areas of the country really have NO CLUE what it is like living in the red states. Lucky you. :-)

[LSK]

28. it is NOT a communist museum

Here is the freeper story:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38738

Here is what the place REALLY IS:
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2900606-war_crimes_museum_ho_chi_minh_city-i

The photo was taken in 1993 when Kerry AND McCain were in Vietnam regarding POWs.

Typical reTHUG propaganda which takes a small fact and IGNORES other facts and twists it into a lie.

[George_S]

31. Thanks, LSK. That settles that.

[LoZoccolo]

33. Saddam had pictures of the Bush* daughters in his palace?

Blah blah blah blah...