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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:15 PM
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CNN is in serious denial.
They're still selling the 5% Bush lead and saying that he's ahead of Kerry in Florida. Not a peep about the Florida newspaper endorsements.

Here's my question: If Kerry wins by a landslide, as he may just do if the trends continue, what can we do to shame media like CNN for being so outrageously WRONG!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:16 PM
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1. what can we do to shame media like CNN
stop watching
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:17 PM
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3. email how wrong they are, then stop watching.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:22 PM
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9. and let them know
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:24 PM
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11. How can I stop watching,
when I have already stopped? CNN, home of the only Wolf that makes my skin crawl.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:51 PM
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17. Precisely. It only works for a day.
What can we do tomorrow?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:17 PM
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2. They have no shame, so shaming them is hopeless.
Nevertheless, we should deluge them with taunting e-mails. Neener, neener, neener, we won, you stupid fuckwits.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:18 PM
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4. Honestly .... we should CLOBBER them ....
For being wrong about just about EVERYTHING .... from Polls to WMD's ....

There is a special woodshed for the media .... they need to be taken behind that woodshed ... where they will learn just how we feel about their malfeasance ....
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:21 PM
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6. I think Jon Stewart should get to use the paddle...
or he already did, didn't he? :-)
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:20 PM
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5. I think the USA Today paper & CNN are so dam bias it is
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 06:22 PM by Jon8503
unbelievable.

I don't know if any of you pick up the USA Today but I have noticed about 3 or 4 times that they always put up in big headlines about Bush has big lead over Kerry.

Have never once seen anything about Kerry except one time when the poll was tied or something and it down in the newspaper.

This is USA Today and CNN's last big desperate push.

I just hope Kerry isnt nice when he gets in office and these people want a front seat in the press conference. He needs to put them down in the basement with a loudspeaker.

He needs to put Lou Dobbs and Helen on the front row. She needs her seat back after Bush pushed her to the back for asking hard questions like what is 1 + 1.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:25 PM
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12. I read USA Today
and think they try to represent both sides. Letters to Ed. are often favoring Kerry. And don't forget during the RNC they had Michael Moore do the editorials daily for the week despite protests. They could have gotten someone less controversial...
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Malachi5 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:21 PM
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7. Keep it real
All of the polls are off because they don't call cell phones only landlines. After this election the polling process is likely to change.

CNN needs to get real and stop catering some of their crap to the right.
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stylerm Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:22 PM
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8. how stuff works
From what I understand, which may be incorrect, but probably is not.

Pollsters must use turnout rates from the 2000 election to be non-biased.

This will probably prove to be incorrect, due to a large % of young & informed voters registering. In the 2000 election, I believe republicans had a 5% higher turnout.

When pollsters collect data they have to normalize it to be unbiased, regardless of what the unmbers are. I think they take the total # of people who said they would vote for bush and multiply it by 40%, they then take the democrat and multiply it by 35%.

If they did it any other way, the conservatives and their attack machine will swing into operation and declare the pollster biased. They will then call on the people that use the pollster to cut him off. It tends to work.

Conservatives are more organized when it comes to attacking.

I feel that pollsters would want to be as accurate as possible, but if they make such adjustmets they lose all their current funding. Its not CNNs fault, they are only using the data that is available.

There is an artical in The Nation discussing the conservative pull on media through intimidation.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:26 PM
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13. Gallup is a faith based company doing God's work
Dems actually voted in a larger percentage in the 2000 election.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:23 PM
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10. I haven't watched CNN in months
But I think I'm going to watch their election night coverage just for kicks.

Judy's head is going to explode when she finally gets cued in to what America really thinks.
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Sinnerman Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:36 PM
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14. More Hog Wash BIas Media
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6330001/

Russia Endorses BUSH What A Crock
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:39 PM
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15. As said before, they have no shame. However, PUNISHMENT
...works really well for anti social personality types (based on empirical studies!). How do you punish CNN? Let me count the ways:

(1) Make a lot of noise about how their ratings are down because Democrats stopped watching them due to their whorish bias starting with Walter Isacson's reign.
(2) Get Stewart on the bandwagon. He nailed CNN on CrossFire for just the reasons we hate them.
(3) Demand that specific personalities be fired, e.g, Zahn, the Blitzer's, that slug dating Limbaugh, etc., and promise to resume viewing when they do.
(4) Give their sponsors crap a la the Sinclair model.
(5) If you're a shareholder or know a major shareholder, demand or have your friend, etc., demand the profit and loss figures for CNN. Better yet, if you work for CNN or AOL (haha) Time-Warner, release these. Then demand that they shut the sucker down since it's a cash drain.
(6) Watch Al Gore's cable news network in droves and get everyone you know to do so. That one action will do more than anything to knock these guys out of the box.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:53 PM
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18. Gore's cable network is on satellite, isn't it?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:40 PM
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16. they are...Corporate News Network...I wouldn't expect any more
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