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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:16 PM
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Drudgepacker has the "Siren Up" -- Bush is Toast!
His headline:

"NBCNEWS: Huge Cache of Explosives Vanished From Site in Iraq -- At Least 18 Months Ago -- Before Troops Arrived"

This is huge! We have our October Surprise.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:19 PM
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1. The troops confirmed that the munitions
were there when they first visited, and were subsequently looted. If that's Drudge's headline, it's another miss for Sludge.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:20 PM
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4. True...already confirmed
that munitions were there when troops arrived, and they had a UN seal on them.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:19 PM
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2. It helps Bush. It doesn't hurt him...
"Before Troops Arrived" is the key phrase, and its why Drudge put the siren on a story just now, instead of when the story broke yesterday.

You don't think he'd put the siren on a story that would actually hurt his boy, do you?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:19 PM
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3. Wrong....
He's trying to say that this happened before our troops arrived and so they couldn't have guarded the weapons if they weren't there.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:20 PM
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5. NO...
...the relationship with the IAEA and the WH was fucking crazy beacause they IGNORED THEM. THAT is the story.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:23 PM
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7. No the weapons were sealed and the WH was told to make protecting
the weapons a priority. Are they now saying that the weapons were not sealed? Reeks of desperation. This story must really be hurting Bush or they wouldn't try such blatant spin.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:25 PM
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8. What does "Under IAEA Seal" mean?
Is it a super-lock to which only the IAEA has the key? Is it a sticker on a door crack so that they'll know if it's been opened while they were gone?

Please educate me.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:29 PM
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11. Under seal mean that the containers were sealed and marked
the last time the IAEA was in there, right before the invasion, the containers were still there and the seals were intact.

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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:31 PM
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12. I agree!
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:34 PM by djg21
This is all out damage control, and it reeks of desparation! There is no way Drudge or anyone else can explain away what only can be described as the negligence of the Bush administration and the DoD regarding the securitization of Iraq's munitions. The more they offer lame justifications and excuses, the more desparate and ridiculous they sound!
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:22 PM
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6. This is b.s and he's trying to rescue the Dimwit with it
TPM has the scoop on why this attempt--which comes out of the Pentagon--to box it all back up won't wash. They can't even keep their story straight, and Drudge's piece will have to come down when they find out they've already contradicted this in their own statements.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:26 PM
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9. here it is from TPM
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:27 PM by trumad
At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said US-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1098677410357
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:27 PM
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10. I smell the stench of...
a desperate Cover Up!
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:33 PM
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13. Jeebus, can he make the font size any higher??/
sorry drudge, your boy is toast, SUPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:36 PM
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14. What NBC article REALLY said... (Drudge is lying..again)
"The letter from Abbas informed the IAEA that since Sept. 4, 2003, looting at the Al-Qaqaa installation south of Baghdad had resulted in the loss of 214.67 tons of HMX, 155.68 tons of RDX and 6.39 tons of PETN explosives."


http://www.nbc4.com/news/3849528/detail.html


since this is Drudge AND a BF LIE...

locking

there are at least 10 threads knockiong around here with documented evidence..

no need for rumors..
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:36 PM
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15. Reality Check ...

I just love how all these things fall together. We have a story from a week ago about those in power now creating their own reality, and here are the MediaWhores facilitating that.

Here's what the Penatagon actually said:

"We do not know when -- if those weapons did exist at that facility -- they were last seen, and under whose control they were last in ... It's very possible -- certainly it's plausible -- that it was the Saddam Hussein regime that last had control of these things."

This, my friends, is what in another time might have been called a non-denial denial. IOW, no one is calling anyone a damn liar. The Pentagon is simply saying, "We do not know ..." which is itself a damned lie -- well, it is plausible (love that word) that the WH or certain people in the Pentagon don't know, but someone knows. Regardless, this statement says absolutely nothing. It plants a seed of doubt. It speculates and invites Whores like Drudge to spin it favorably for the administration.

I also find it ironic that they're almost inviting some brave soul to come along and ask the inevitable question, "What did you know, and when did you know it?"

I need some popcorn.



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