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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:39 AM
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Do you think Bush is an educated man? Sure, he has diplomas from
the best schools money can buy,but, based on public evidence, does he
display any of the characteristics of an educated person?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:41 AM
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1. No
an educated person is one who has learned from what he has read and experienced. There is no indication that Bush has learned much. A wise man is humble, because he realizes how much he has yet to learn; a foolish man thinks he knows it all. The wise see things in shades of grey; the foolish in stark black and white. The wise measure their words; the fools open their mouths and let anything pour out.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:42 AM
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2. No.
He doesn't read, he doesn't think and he depends upon others to ensure his re-election--that's what is important to him, rather than solving problems and meeting his obligations to the ordinary people of the country.

Educated people ponder, consider and avail themselves of all the best advice before coming to a decision. Bush does none of those things. None.
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:46 AM
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3. I knew Bush types while in college (a school very similar to Yale), and I
know for a fact that sons or daughters of famous or wealthy alumni got into the schools because of their connections. Most of these kids coasted on C's, which even in the best of schools are not that hard to come by. They were there to party and get laid, not to get an education. Once you are admitted to a place like Yale, it's easy to coast. If you really want to excel, it is very tough to get the A's and B's, but you really gotta screw up to not get at least a C. From what I hear, Bush was this type of student, so it doesn't surprise me that he came out of Yale about as clueless as he went in.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:47 AM
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4. Bush appears to have deliberately avoided education
Education requires a questioning, curious approach, and that is as far as possible from *s approach to life. He seems to be naturally incurious and lazy, and he has discovered that playing up his "good old boy", "going with my gut" image has political appeal to the large mass of his supporters who similarly don't think.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:23 AM
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5. He was known for sleeping in class.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:27 AM
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6. Sure, he has diplomas from rolling rock, Lone star, Strohs, Miller MGD
Oh damn. that was beer labels, not diplomas.



Never mind.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:35 AM
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7. No - and I have lost considerable respect for his two schools
I think it is fatious for them to claim that they attarct the best and brightest students - they attract some very good students and some very well connected students. IMHO, * has tarnished their respective academic reputations - something further aggrivated by the fact that continue to admit on such policies.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:35 AM
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8. "C" student at best.
n/t
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:42 AM
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9. "Gentleman's C"
One of his professors at Havard said they passed him because he was a Bush.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:51 AM
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10. A History Major
He sure didn't remember much about that subject.

Had he been born into a Middle Class family without connections or money for that college would he have been accepted at Yale?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:06 AM
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11. bush's maternal grandfather was Marvin Pierce credited with dumbing down
America.

"Marvin Pierce, was then vice president of McCall Corporation, publisher of Redbook and McCall's magazines. After his daughter joined the banking oligarchy by marrying into the Bush family (1945), Pierce became McCall's chief executive. Pierce and his magazine's theme of `` Togetherness ''--stressing family social existence divorced from political, scientific, artistic or creative activities--played a role in the cult of conformity and mediocrity which crushed U.S. mental life in the 1950s."

the quote is from Webster G Tarpley's and Anton Chaitkin's 'BUSH THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY'

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:32 AM
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12. He must have cut class a lot.
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 07:34 AM by BiggJawn
And had some of Poppy's "Co-workers" from the CIA visit his professors....

What scares me is the fact that most of the mystique of Dumbya's "Charm" comes from all the Cooters in Murka saying "Ay! He's a Dumb-Ass, jes' laik me! I LAIK him! Yep, jes Plane Folks!"
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:20 AM
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18. This squares with what he said when asked what he and his dad
talk about when they are together.His reported answer:pussy.This is exactly the kind of talk one hears at big time colleges from the moneyed jocks who are a dime a dozen at these places.Bush reminds me of many of these species.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:02 PM
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19. Hey! I DREAM about P****!
And I'm not a dumb frat-boy jock....

Just over-sexed and under-serviced...
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:09 PM
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20. I am also certain that you are overeducated compared to our
Great Leader.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:35 PM
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22. Hell, my GOLDFISH is over-educated compared to "*"...
At least it can eat a pretzel without choking!
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:34 AM
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13. No, being educated is not about diplomas or even school.
It's about a desire for knowledge, it's about an open mind, an ability to logically argue your side of an issue while being able to still look realistically at the other side. Being educated is realizing how little you really know.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:22 AM
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14. To me an educated person is a lot like Senator Byrd.Never
formally schooled, the Senator taught himself Greek and Roman History and became an ardent fan of the American Constitution.His love of learning seems to know no boundaries and it is this learning that inspired him to act when the entire Senate remained silent in the face of the Bush Administration's assault on our Constitution.Combining wisdom and courage, the senator exemplified for me what an educated person should be.

One of my proudest moments came when during a visit to D.C. I took my daughter from the tenth grade to the Senator's offices and have him autograph her World History Textbook.

I hope he remains as much her hero as he is mine and passes along the legacy of his heroic stand for all of us during our national moment of shame.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:47 AM
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15. He doesn't READ. He may have some book 'larning', but he's not
an educated person. A professor of mine once told me that the rule of thumb for an educated person is someone who reads a book a week--and comics don't count.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:36 AM
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16. Bush? Educated? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 09:52 AM by davekriss
Really, now. Do cows jump over the moon? Do pigs fly? Bush will be "educated" when we're all making snowmen in frozen-over hell!


This is a man whose sole qualification for the Presidency was name recognition, "branding" in the marketing sense. Other than that he drove two oil companies into the ground, enriched himself through crony manipulations via the Texas Rangers deal, and governed Texas into poverty and pollution while delighting in leading the States in executions.

He is cipher, a rorsach blot for those who aren't grounded in reality. Onto him Rove misdirects every unarticulated want and fear. Meanwhile demogogues and idealogues that surround the Boy King have free rein to act out all of their childhood hurts, and thieves pilfer unabated.

The notion that Bush is an "educated man" is about as Orwellian as "war is peace" or "slavery is freedom". Bush is by far the worst President we have ever had, and at a time when democratic vigilence was caught sleeping. December 12 2000 was the culmination of a bloodless coup that began with Whitewater and Monicagate.

That sound? Just the syncopated rythms of jack-booted goose stepping as fascism rises here in America, an apparant replay of the thirties' Weimar Republic, and generations of Americans will pay for this in blood and treasure.

Observe the brown shirts parading around on November 2, falsely challenging our right to vote. My gut tells me this season will make 2000 look like a picnic...
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:06 AM
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17. The Best Diplomas Money Can Buy
He has been "educated," in that people tried to drill info into his head.

But he is not Educated. Educated people, in the truest sense, never stop learning. Bush stopped after he learned to breathe.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:27 PM
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21. His degrees alone mean little
I don't see how attending Yale and Harvard as a legacy admittee implies greater intellect, or even greater education. I'm not entirely convinced that degree requirements are even substantively different from that of much-maligned public schools.

I find that education is determined by what you personally put into it as an individual, not by the pricetag or the professors. I can vouch for this from observing and talking to friends who go to borderline-ivy league schools; bright, but certainly on my level. For that matter, my mom never went to college and she is far more knowledgeable than alot of grads.
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