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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:44 AM
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"Al Qaeda" Magazine and it's business associates
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 06:53 AM by DuctapeFatwa
A mysterious Internet Service Provider that hosts at least 20 terrorist web sites as well as providing a platform for viewers to access the videos of the recent beheadings in Iraq says it doesn't support terrorism...


A check of the registration information for www.mlhosting.net (the company listed as helping Hosting Anime work through (presumably) the issues of terrorism) and attacks revealed the person behind that site is Trevor Justus, with a listed address of Fort Collins, CO.

Contact with Trevor Justus was obtained through his father Randy Justus of Arvada, CO., who runs an organization called Justus and Associates.

According to Randy Justus' web site www.justusassociates.com/mission.html his company was "recently formed to provide professional security consulting services to government and industry clients. The company is an association of security professionals with extensive knowledge and experience in a diverse range of security services derived from a variety of government agencies, industry, and law enforcement entities. J&A's primary business line is conducting vulnerability assessments and risk analysis, based upon personnel, information, physical, cyber, operations, and antiterrorism security disciplines."

http://www.bushcountry.org/news/columnists/jreynalds/c_102604_jreynalds_terror_sites.htm

Note: The source here is not the story. The websites and upstreams can be easily verified. The story is that Voice of Jihad, the ostensible magazine of "Al Qaeda," and a company that claims to be a security consulting company, appear to have a documentable relationship, or at least claim to, unless they go wipe their websites now.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:55 AM
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1. I'm afraid you are totally wrong here
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 06:56 AM by gandalf
with your conclusion: The story is that Voice of Jihad, the ostensible magazine of "Al Qaeda," and a company that claims to be a security consulting company, appear to have a documentable relationship

That is no story. It is a non-issue. For the mass media and the mass audience they serve this fact does not exist, and if the story appears, it is, at most, a conspiracy theory.

But thank you nevertheless for your research!

edit: spelling.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:10 AM
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2. Very astute observation, and most correct. I bet CNN will be pissed though

at bushcountry for outing today's Saowt url, and within a few hours, none of the websites mentioned will be up.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:16 AM
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3. But I just checked them -- still there
What I don't understand: How do they upload files to these sites? From their desk at Baghdad, via a dial-in connection and their local ISP? Do they go to an internet cafe? This cafe would have an IP address, and once it is known, it could be put under surveillance, so for every upload they would have to change the internet shop?

I just don't understand how to operate a website anonymously. A web site seems to be totally inadequate for anonymous communication. What about newsnet, or anonymous remailing?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:24 AM
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4. I doubt they will be up long. As to your other questions, there has long

been speculation that anywhere from most to all of these ostensible "terror" sites do not originate anywhere in the Middle East, and are in fact, micro-ops of US operations outsourced to various "security consultants." ;)
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:51 AM
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5. That is what I believe, too
How could CNN be aware of an obscure internet site from which they can cite terrorist statements? They simply would not find such a site. That would only be possible if such a site existed for a longer time, and CNN and Co. would continuously check them.

But a terrorist cannot contiously maintain a website anonymously, at least the the efforts necessary to hide the tracks would be enormous, and it would still remain risky.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:11 AM
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6. Well, the sites change urls every other day

Sometimes the url is passed on mailing lists, or it may be posted on message boards. CNN either employs an entire battallion devoted to tracking down the chimeras, or it may be on a "special" mailing list not available to us ordinary terrorists.
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