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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:02 PM
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Looking for link: Poppy quote on his memory of day Kennedy was shot?
I remember reading that when asked, he couldn't remember where he was on the day Kennedy was shot. I'm not finding it on the Bush Body Count site and can't think where else to look.

thanks...
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:04 PM
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1. He was on the grassy knoll
He went there after he escorted Richard Nixon to Love Field, who flew out just before Kennedy arrived.

(The part about Nixon is a fact, I am speculating on the part about Bush)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:09 PM
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2. No reason to suspect Poppy just because he and Texas oil GOPers
knew beforehand that JFK was going to be killed -

Per the long time mistress of one of those GOPer Texas oil folks -

as recorded in the Warren report - and then ignored.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:11 PM
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3. Wow, I've never heard that!
Any links?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:16 PM
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5. If only the Warren report was on line! - but until then, we are reduced to
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 01:17 PM by papau
reading paper! Indeed the lady was interviewed by some media types and she expressed surprise that no one followed up.

Her comments made it into the Warren report and into a few books - but I do not know if there are in news articles on the net!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:23 PM
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7. Madeleine Brown was the longtime mistress of LBJ...
...and she details in her book that LBJ told her the night before JFK's assassination that they weren't going to have to worry about JFK anymore.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:46 PM
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10. You are correct - I was thinking of Mistress Brown - Google is great!
According to the eyewitness account of LBJ's mistress Madeline Duncan Brown and other people, who attended a party at oil billionarie Clint Murchinson's house in Dallas, Texas on the night of November 21st, 1963, the following men plotted the last minute details of Kennedy's assassination;

Lyndon Baines Johnson - He told Ms. Brown after the meeting "After tomorrow, those f***ing Kennedy's will never embarrass me again". Johnson became President upon Kennedy's death.

Clint Murchinson - Texas Oil Billionaire.

H.L. Hunt - Owner of Hunt Oil. John J. McCloy - a representative of the Chase Manhattan bank, who would later be appointed to the Warren Commission by Lyndon Johnson.

Allen Dulles, - former CIA director fired by Kennedy and later appointed to the Warren Commission by Lyndon Johnson.

J. Edgar Hoover - FBI director who hated the Kennedys.

Richard Nixon - Lost the 1960 election to Kennedy but would later become President after Lyndon Johnson dropped out of the Democratic race for President in 1968 and the assassination of Robert Kennedy.

Henry Kissinger - Former Army Intelligence operative who helped smuggle Nazi doctors into the U.S. under Operation Paperclip, later worked in diplomatic circles and for the Nixon administration.

George Herbert Walker Bush - originally a CIA operative in the 1960's who helped train Anti-Castro Cuban exiles under "Operation Mongoose", later became a congressman, a U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, was tje Director of the CIA during the Ford Administration, was Vice-President under Ronald Reagan(who was shot in 1981 by John Hinkley, the son of one of Bush's biggest financial supporters during the Republican Primaries in 1980), was President of the United States from 1989-1993 and is the father of the current President. Bush's name was listed in George De Morschildt's(Lee Harvey Oswald's CIA handler) address book along with the nickname "Poppy".

These were the men who killed Kennedy and profited the most from his death.

Here's a radio interview of Ms. Brown; http://fiasco.dynamic-nameserver.com/fiasco/garrison/brown.ram

And here's a page listing Kissinger and Nixon as attendees; http://www.patshannan.com/musingsdeczero.html

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http://www.assassinationweb.com/shack3g.htm

Recently, a former FBI official told Washington-area attorney Dan Alcorn that some upper level FBI officials believed that Lyndon Johnson had been involved in the assassination. In a recently-published memoir, Johnson's long-time mistress, Madeleine Brown, confirmed that LBJ had at least foreknowledge of the assassination; she also confirmed long-rumored reports that he and J. Edgar Hoover were present at a gathering hosted by Texas oil tycoon Clint Murchison on the eve of the assassination. Also in attendance, she said, was power broker and later Warren Commission member John J. McCloy.

When Madeleine Brown questioned LBJ after the assassination, he exploded, telling her that "Texas oil" (meaning Hover's friend Clint Murchison and H L Hunt, per LBJ's mistress Madeleine Brown at the time ) and "renegade intelligence" men had killed Kennedy. (note that elsewhere there are statements that LYNDON B. JOHNSON, just prior to the JFK assassination, told his mistress, who later wrote about it, that "after tomorrow that bastard Kennedy will not be able to embarass me anymore".)


Kilgallen's reporting brought her into contact with Mark Lane who had himself received an amazing story from the journalist Thayer Waldo. He had discovered that Jack Ruby, J. D. Tippet and Bernard Weismann had a meeting at the Carousel Club eight days before the assassination. Waldo, who worked for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, was too scared to publish the story. He had other information about the assassination. However, he believed that if he told Lane or Kilgallen he would be killed. Kilgallen's article on the Tippit, Ruby and Weissman meeting appeared on the front page of the Journal American. Later she was to reveal that the Warren Commission were also tipped off about this gathering. However, their informant added that there was a fourth man at the meeting, an important figure in the Texas oil industry - - On 8th November, 1965, Kilgallen, was found dead in her New York apartment. She was fully dressed and sitting upright in her bed. The police reported that she had died from taking a cocktail of alcohol and barbiturates. The notes for the chapter she was writing on the case had disappeared. Her friend, Florence Smith, died two days later. The copy of Kilgallen's article were never found.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush3.htm

Hale Boggs sat on the Warren Commission, which concluded that President Kennedy was slain by a lone assassin. Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs said that the Warren Report was false and that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI not only helped cover up the JFK murder but blackmailed Congress with massive wire-tapping and spying. He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist. Congressman Boggs' plane disappeared on a flight to Alaska in 1972. The press, the military, and the CIA publicly proclaimed the plane could not be located. Investigators later said that was a lie, that the plane had been found. On the plane were Nick Begich, a very popular Democratic Congressman, and Don Jonz, an aide to Mr. Boggs. All were killed.
+ In 1976, George H.W. Bush was appointed CIA director by president and former Warren Commission member Gerald Ford at the exact time that newly erected investigative committees were probing the possible role of the CIA into the assassination plots to kill Fidel Castro, Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy. Bush appoints his old friend from JM/Wave and the Bay of Pigs, Theodore Shackley, as his deputy director for Special Operations, the CIA's most important division. The above-mentioned investigations are heavily stonewalled by the CIA, holding back crucial documents and witnesses. Nevertheless, the House Select Committee on Assassinations concludes its investigation with a 95% probability that at least 4 shots were fired and Kennedy was killed as a result of a conspiracy, along with the recommendation to the Justice Department to follow up with a further investigation. This recommendation was never honored.




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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:18 PM
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11. On second thought - I'm sure there was an oil fellows mistress that said
the same thing as Brown.

But darn if I can remember her name

Her man was either Hunt or a friend of Hunts.

Oh well -

enough tinfoil hat time -

back to this election.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:14 PM
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4. Search for Octafish's threads on the JFK assassination
There is an FBI memorandum that notes Poppy calling in from Tyler, Texas suggesting a political opponent might have info on the assassination. The memorandum is in a number of threads.

So he obviously ought to remember where he was on that day. He also mentions that he was en route to Dallas. Barbs and GWB were in Dallas on that day...interesting, no?

Why do I think this was a CYA document for the record?

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:20 PM
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6. Thanks- Archive search of off until after the election
I'll try after...
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bpcmxr Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:30 PM
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8. Try these links
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:33 PM
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9. wasn't it in bob woodwards book?
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:35 PM
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12. It was in Kitty Kelley's book n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:37 PM
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13. oh sorry.... that's the book...thanks i knew it was in somebodies book
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 03:37 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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