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zzapatista Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:30 PM
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Righties tell the Cheneys Mary can be cured (Salon.com)
Salon.com
<12:57 PDT, Oct. 26, 2004>

by Michelle Goldberg

We're sure that Republicans will be shocked and appalled to learn that Mary Cheney is once again being dragged forward to make a partisan political point about homosexuality. Today, Concerned Women for America, the veteran right-wing organization founded by Beverly LaHaye, released "About Mary: An Open Letter to Dick and Lynn Cheney." Under the guise of praising the Vice President's daughter -- "Mary is, I'm sure, a fine young woman with many wonderful qualities," it says -- the missive actually uses her to make an argument about whether or not homosexuality is a choice.

Authored by Regina Griggs, executive director of a group called PFOX, or Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays, the letter nods to the Cheney's paternal love, saying, "As parents, we can and do love our children unconditionally no matter who they are attracted to. Loving unconditionally allows us the freedom to maintain our values and viewpoints while keeping a bridge open to our children." But loving isn't the same as accepting. "Homosexual activists like those working on the Kerry-Edwards team want 'gay marriage' and civil unions in order to gain public affirmation," it says. "They think this will make them happy. Happiness requires hope, and real hope is the knowledge that many men and women overcome unwanted same-sex attractions every year, even those who believed at one time that they were born that way and had no choice." When Kerry mentioned Mary -- far more sympathetically -- her mother blasted it as "a cheap and tawdry trick," William Safire wrote an outraged column entitled "The Lowest Blow," and William Kristol vituperated against the Democratic nominee's "cheap, cold, calculating cynicism--and cruelty."

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http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html/index.html#mary

I didn't see it but obviously let me know if this is a dupe. I just thought it was some sick shit.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:32 PM
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1. You tell 'em sweet smell 'em, I don't have the nerve!
This is so funny. I love It!!
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:34 PM
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2. I wonder how Mary Cheney raionalizes her job
She must be well aware that she's campaigning for the party that represents pretty much all the people who hate homosexuals.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:35 PM
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3. The Ex-gay movement has been totally discredited
http://members.shaw.ca/trogl/orient.html

Could somebody keep an eye on this? I'm moving and my ISP promised they'd keep it alive until I switch over. I need to know if and when it disappears to I can recover from backup.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:46 PM
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7. still up
:-)
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:36 PM
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4. Dick asks: "In time for the election?"
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zzapatista Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:37 PM
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5. "But loving isn't the same as accepting."
That is some freaky shit to say about your child. I love you but accepting you is asking a bit much don't you think?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:37 PM
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6. How dare Kerry bring attention to disease in the Cheney family, eh?
Sheesh
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:46 PM
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8. But then Mary would have to acquire some job skills...
instead of being a "professional homosexual"
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:54 PM
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9. Mary Cheney must be one messed up lesbian. Look at the mind warp she has
to deal with. She's gay, but her parents don't like that she's gay, but they support her gayness for political purposes, but overall, they really dislike who she is. She works for a company as a gay and lesbian outreach coordinator, but it's a company notorious for it's anti-gay stance and it's run by some of the most vocal and active anti-gay owners in the country. She supports a political party that is openly hostile to people like her and probably gets encouraged to "change" all the time. So with her home life and work life, she gets total mixed messages all day about a core part of herself. And on top of all this is the publicity she has to endure concerning her sexuality being aired nationwide continuously. What a recipe for a breakdown. I feel sorry for her.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:54 PM
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10. Shouldn't Fred Phelps be on their case 24-7?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:05 PM
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15. For those who don't know dickhead Fred Phelps -
(Casper, Wyoming) Anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps has announced intentions to erect a monument to Matthew Shepard the gay college student brutally murdered five years ago near Laramie.

But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."


Nice guy, 'eh?

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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:42 PM
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17. He's a real charmer
I got a welcome postcard from him when I accepted a position that put my name in a national GLBT newsletter. It was so nice of Phelps to relay the message from God that I'm doomed to hell. Without that postcard I'da never known.

I'd forgotten about Phelps when I voted Phil Burress the evangelist I most love to hate in a recent DU poll(Burress is the current thorn in my side on the same issue - see my sig line). Now I'm torn.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:39 PM
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20. God hates Fuckheads, Too, like Fred "Pheltcher" Phelps
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:55 PM
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11. pardon my french
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 05:56 PM by dwickham
but fuck them and Phelps most of all

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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:31 PM
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12. maybe mary could get an audience with bush. and as god speaks through w,
they can pray away the gay. mary will emerge "cured," just in time for the election and bush wins by a landslide.
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InhaleToTheChief Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:51 PM
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13. lmao
"pray away the gay" That's hilarious!
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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:56 PM
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14. Bush gives thumbs up to gay civil unions, loves gays
Wants them to have lots of sex and his government will support them with tax breaks. Sounds like he is turning liberal! Conservatives should stay home to teach him a lesson not to go to bed with homosexuals and liberals.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-bush-civil-unions,0,4169546.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:19 PM
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16. Mary must be into S/M
It's the only sane response to her insane world.

S/M can be the bridge between her and the fundies. It's their preferred realm too, only their toys include nukes and other nasty things, their playground is the world, and they want to be the playground bullies.

Oh, how I hope Nov. 2 goes better than the consensus thinks it will, and these nutcases get thrown out.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:53 PM
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18. Mary is into $$$$$$$$$ (that's why she's a "professional homosexual")
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:17 PM
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19. Here's a link:
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/6582/CFI/family/index.htm at COncerned Women for America (yeah, right).
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