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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:08 AM
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Matthews on MSNBC now (10:07)
Saying that Kerry has the wind at his back and if it stays there by Thurs - he sees Kerry winning... Has he gone wacky??
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:09 AM
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1. Someone should tell him ...
Flip - FLOP!

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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:11 AM
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2. Saw it and was pretty stunned.
He looked very solemn and stunned himself.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:17 AM
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3. Tweety is trying to save his ass
After endlessly fronting for shrub he is protecting his own ass once Kerry wins. I suspect as this election gets closer you will see more of the other hack pundits doing the very same thing.

The important thing to remember is once Kerry takes office pushing for the new Media Act is of the highest order to getting our country straightened out after 4 years of behind the scenes corporate bias!
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:14 PM
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15. Tweety,,.ICK
These people are awful. They've truly let the public and democracy down. They deserve to be put on trial for all the harm they've done.

Matthews is esp. awful.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:19 AM
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4. Jumping ship with the other rats...
And the paradigm shift has begun. Expect others.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:39 AM
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5. Waaaaaay too little waaaaaaay too late, Cake Batter Face!
I don't want to read or see anyone's defense of this pasty-faced cake batter faced dipwad.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:25 PM
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17. Cake batter face?!
Tweety was trying to stir it up last night by alluding to Kerry's ongoing 'man-tan', so your reference made me laugh!
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:45 AM
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6. So today it's Kerry.
A couple of days ago it was Bush. Last week it was Kerry. A month ago, Bush had already won, and Kerry was a loser.

Why anyone takes what these people say seriously is a mystery to me. They are entertainment, a sideshow, a distraction. They are the collective court jester to the monarch, democracy.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:49 AM
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8. because he measures well the direction of the wind
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Lucille Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:13 AM
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10. I don't think they're court jesters
Tweety and his ilk are fawning couriers. In another age, they each would have a painted-on mole, powdered wig,ruffles, and a fan. And think about this: they all look male, but there's something disturbingly effeminate (emasculated?) about them. Just think back to Tweety drooling over the flight suit, and his high-pitched, nervous laugh.





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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:47 AM
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7. Just flash him a photo of flight-suit Georgie
And Tweety will go all mushy for Stupidhead's manly bits again. Forget all about French-looking John Kerry.

Is a lobotomy absolutely required to get a cable news gig, or does it just seem that way?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:50 AM
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9. I n all fairness, he got all flustered over Gore's concession speech too
So, yeah, the lobotomy thingy may be true.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:23 AM
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11. The lobotomy is not required
if you have sufficient naturally-occurring damage in the appropriate areas of the brain.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:31 AM
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12. schiziod tweety off his meds again?...damn he flips in the wind
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:47 AM
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13. Honestly? I think the best explanation for his behavior
is a desire to be sure that the reporting on the election stays all about a "horse race". Should Kerry's momentum appear to carry him too far forward, Matthews will begin cheering on Bush. It's all about viewers.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:00 AM
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14. I think it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the candidates
Look, Chris Matthews is a Pennsylvania Democrat. He worked for the MOST LIBERAL Congressman in history, my personal hero and late neighbor, Speaker Tip O'Neill. He also worked for Democrat and former presidential candidate Ed Muskie. He went into the PEACE CORPS because of John Kennedy. He's had his Dem ticket punched. His brother is a Pennsylvania Republican and holds some state office in PA. Working Irish, that's his stock. Pay your bills, be honest and true, take care of the poor, go to mass on Sunday, strong defense but no imperialism--in a nutshell, that's the worldview.

I think he was appalled by the Clinton - Monica thing, mainly because he has a lovely wife, Kathleen, who works for a GOP TV station in the greater DC area who did not like that business, and kids, and that was a rather shocking event for the time. Nowadays, with all the discussion of it, the practice is far less shocking, even if it still meets with disapproval by some segments of society. However, if weecowboy got a couple of BJs every week, but balanced the budget, kept us out of war, and improved the jobs situation, they'd probably write a law to provide federal funding for them, and institute a draft of sex workers to ensure a ready supply in support of our national defense. Eventually, the weekly BJ would be televised for the delight of the TV viewing audience, to show America that our Pretzeldunce is ON THE JOB. That's the MEDIA for ya--they want to tell us how to think, for their purposes. And their purposes are PROFIT, not ideology.

What I think is going on here is MARCHING ORDERS. The media, all of them, are touting a horserace, because a horserace benefits THEM. Honestly, would you watch TV if it was portrayed as a ROUT by either side? Would you turn on the TV to see our candidate getting HAMMERED every damn day? Fuck, no. Alternatively, if all you ever saw on TV was weecowboy getting the shit kicked out of him, after a week or two of laughing, gloating, unbridled glee, giddiness and joy, you'd give it a ho-hum, same ole, same ole, and be watching Home and Garden TV or the Cartoon Channel. A horserace means viewers, and viewers mean advertisers. We're all being conned, and it is all for profit. It has absolutely nothing to do with who is the better candidate.

They have to straddle a line, where they toss out just enough information to PISS BOTH SIDES OFF. Watch carefully, and see how they do it. If Day 1 is Bush bashing, Day 2 is Kerry crushing. Notice carefully how they play this shit on purpose. Sometimes, when they are desperate, they sieze on a non-issue and make a stink out of it, with faux outrage and dire warnings, just for cheap thrills. Other times, when it is a big deal and they should pounce on it, they don't, because they have to even the playing field to keep the illusion of a fake horserace going. I swear, they get a memo every morning, telling them to beat up on one or the other.

My point is, USE the media for the video and the information they can provide, but don't rely on them. Use them, abuse them, and make up your own mind. Rely on your own ability to suss out the truth, look to your gut, and get out the vote.

Chris Matthews had LOWER ratings than Phil Donohue...don't forget that. His influence is limited on a good day, and his best advertising is done on Saturday Night Live. He's a charicature. Don't make him, or any talking head, more important than they really are.

One more thing and I am off my soapbox. My hero, Tip O'Neill, said ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL. We have to get local, get busy, and get out the vote in our own neighborhoods. Get out and ask people -- ASK THEM -- to vote for Kerry. ASK FOR THEIR HELP. People like to help, it is in our altruistic natures. Draw people into the cause. Get out that vote!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:24 PM
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16. Nice try, but we've been watching Tweety for some time now
"Appalled by Clinton?" he owes him his TV career - like so many other media whores.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:41 PM
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18. We'll have to agree to disagree then
Of course he made hay while the sun shone, that is what they ALL do. But I don't see him as a nefarious force. The GOP think he is a Dem lapdog. If he is pissing everyone off, he is doing his job, selling advertising for his corporate bosses. That's all they do, anyway.
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