Palast on AAR: Kerry will win, but bush will be inaugurated again

[robbedvoter]

he predicts "shoplifting" in 4 states: Florida, Ohio, Colorado and new Mexico" - watch for a W margin of 1.5% - the shoplifting being 3-4%.
He talked about RNC trying to get him fired of BBC and described various shennanigans that didn't make our media. He was a guest on Morning Sedition.

[quaoar]

1. But this is the best part

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm

[deutsey]

2. This is my main concern about this election

I feel the momentum is truly going in Kerry's favor, but the GOP isn't about to let all us unwashed masses boot them out of the White House.

I'm hoping Kerry and the DNC are prepared to fight and fight hard against the theft.

[RoundRockD]

3. I think I'm going to be sick...

I just can't stand the thought of four more years with this administration.

They must not be allowed to steal another election!!

[deutsey]

5. Check out these sites

http://www.nov3.us

http://www.electionprotectionvolunteer.org/electionprotection/index.cfm?mktcode=EI001

[Bandit]

15. I totally agree with you but I keep reassuring myself by remembering

just how incompetent these guys truly are. If they continue in the same incompetent manner Kerry will be our next Presdient.

[Not Me]

4. Look for the battle to go to the streets if that happens

n/t

[benburch]

8. We had all better be ready if that happens.

This could be very ugly.

Bush better hope he screws this one up too.

[Paradise]

6. of same opinion, and seriously considering expatriation

to nova scotia, should that occur, again.

any information on procedure would be appreciated. (never even been out of this country.)

[JPace]

7. The more it goes for Kerry the more the repugs will

have to steal votes and the more they steal the more likely
they will be caught in the act.
The obvious theft will turn off and anger so many Americans that
the courts will not dare intervene in the repugs favor.

[calico1]

11. I agree. In 2000 no one expected a

stolen election. We had never had that happen. Now, with a country so deeply divided and so much anger I think an outright attempt to steal the election again will not work like last time. People are watching now, expecting it. We are much angrier than we were 4 years ago. Kerry is not Gore. he has the knowledge of 4 years ago. I just don't think they will get away with it this time. I think they will try to see how far they can get, but Democrats are much more prepared this year. To say that Bush is just going to easily steal the election is to say that Kerry, the Democratic party and everyone who voted against Bush is just going to take it lying down. Somehow I find that difficult to believe.

[RoyGBiv]

14. Slight Correction

It *has* happened before in at least two Presidential elections and likely a third. It may have occurred in others, and if you count-in the way local balloting has been conducted in previous eras, it most certainly has.

The problem -- one of the problems -- is that Americans are too quick to forget parts of their history. We become complacent, stop paying attention, and then we get "surprised" again. We're so busy believing this stuff about living in the greatest country in the world that many of us refuse to believe this kind of thing is normal, not an abberation. Could anyone have predicted 2000? Probably not, but then again, it should not have been so surprising either.

It can and has happened here. Thanks to the Internet, especially forums like DU, the fact that it happened in 2000 has not been so quickly forgotten, and people who were angered by its occurrence were able to encourage and reinforce each other to make sure we're on guard this time. The trick, should we be able to defeat the neo-cons this time, will not to let it make us complacent again.

[Walt Starr]

9. That's a recipe for disaster

Many of us do not plan on taking another stolen election lying down.

[nodehopper]

10. at least Kerry is prepared like Gore wasn't

It seems like Kerry will declare victory and will not concede like Gore did. Kerry learned from 2000 and has a team of lawyers and aircrafts ready to be dispatched to any contested location, none of them further than an hour away by plane. So he is not going to go down without a peep. No doubt, BushCo WILL try to steal the election again, but you can only do that thing wihtout a challenge once...you know, shock everyone and stun everyone into going along with the convention. Not this year.

[LizW]

12. Palast has done great work the last four years, but

I really, really hope he's wrong about this.

If this election is not decided by the morning of the 3rd, it's going to get ugly. If it gets into the courts, we will lose. The machine the BFEE has in place is too powerful and doesn't give a shit about how it looks, winning is the only thing.

I have no doubt Palast is right about what the GOP is trying to do. I just hope the turnout overwhelms their efforts.

[chookie]

13. Sounds about right, but here are some comments

The Bushistas can't run a government or successfully wage war, etc, but what these m*****f******s are very good at is politics. They can't secure a weapons dump, but they have down to a science exactly how many votes are needed to keep this creep in power. They are brutal fighters by nature, and do not hesitate at any dirty tactics or hypocrisy -- because fanatics don't give much care about what means to the end.

Palast's scenario is a likely one.

However, if Kerry wins, I believe we can anticipate that they will bitterly contest it. They were ready to go violent 4 years ago....

The Bushistas have cultivated the fury of the right wing wackos, knowing that on the street they are very effective at intimidation. And hey, it worked 4 years ago! I have said all along that the Bushistas will risk, even encourage, civil unrest, to hold onto power.

I think the legal fight on our side, this time, will be more effective. There will also be widespread resistance. Everyone who showed up at the first inauguration or at the RNC protests or any anti-war protest is going to show up and bring half a dozen others with them.

The media will cry -- "Americans want to move on!" again, and that once again, America has shown how power can be transferred, oops I mean retained, peacefully, and will tell us 24/7 that resistance is futile -- even though that resistance will be widespread.

There is real danger in the current polarization of opinion in America, and its cultivation by the media. There is real danger that part of the new style of elections here will be resistance unleashing itself on unscrupulous partisans.

Then steps in The Patriot Act, and posse comitatus. Not only will we be told that strict measures are necessary to "secure the homeland", but that our troops need us to unite behind our CiC, and that division in America is given aid and comfort to America's enemies. They may even play the old GOP canard about how terrorists/communists have infiltrated protestors which now pursue the agenda of terror organizations, etc.

Of course, this is all conjectural, but it would seem that many Americans anticipate a coming period of strife.

It will be all the more interesting considering that, while we are fighting it on here, the Iraqis will be having their own troubles leading to a faux election, on top of the war they already are mired in.

It's going to be a very interesting year.

"No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil"