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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:56 PM
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Any body seen this freeper b.s.
or got ideas how to respond? It's long and convoluted--maybe it ain't worth the time or trouble.

Subject: VOTER FRAUD

Dear Danny,
Door County was beautiful. We had a very enjoyable drive, up and back, and a great time with our daughter and her family in Steven's Point,
Wisconsin .
Last Saturday, Oct. 23rd, I voluntarily sought the other side of the argument. I attended the Michael Moore student rally and speech on the University of Wisconsin campus at Stevens Point, WI. My ticket was #2567 and I was one of the last ones through the door, so I'm guessing that there might have been 2,600 of us in attendance. It was standing room only -- and it, literally, incited riot in the streets.
But I'm glad I got to hear the guy in person. It makes the enclosed report all the more plausible. If you had been there, I'll bet the farm you would have been just as embarrassed as I was. The man's comments were so seditious that special guards and campus patrolmen were on hand to make certain that no cameras or recording devices, of any kind, were allowed in the hall.
The price for my ticket was $3.00. I identified myself as a benefactor of the school, and the event's faculty organizer refused to tell me how much Moore was being paid -- claiming that..."it was not in the public's domain"...because the fee came out of the student activities fund.
This is something that should interest everyone. And, if your first-thought reaction to reading it is: "It couldn't really happen, " think Again!
Do us both a favor -- take five minutes to read it carefully.
Dave

If you don't think this can really happen, "Think Again!
VOTER FRAUD + TRIAL LAWYERS = COUP DE ETAT
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by Larry Abraham
If I have learned anything about the world-wide Left in over 40 years of studying their tactics and strategies it is that always and everywhere they follow the paraphrased dictum of V.I. Lenin, "Accuse your enemy of that which we must do".
This tactic is now being put into place for the up-coming election and what will closely follow on the heels of same.
What is being planned is a three part operation.
Part One is now being put into place, by having spokesmen like Jesse Jackson running around the country rallying his troops to "stop the
disenfranchising of blacks as was done in Florida in 2000". Despite the fact that not one shred of evidence speaks to this imaginary concoction by Jackson and Gore, it is now being accepted as fact by countless thousands of their followers. A few months ago, 13 members of the House, most of them members of the Black Caucus, wrote a letter to Kofi Annan, UN General Secretary, to send an official delegation to "monitor" the forthcoming U.S. elections. Then, just last week Jimmy Carter issued astatement over his "concern" about the possible illegalities for the November 2 elections and how they would be conducted. A delegation from the OSCE, headed by former Florida Congressman Alcee Hastings, has already set up shop in South Florida. The basis for this drumbeat goes all the way back to the events following the last election and the persistent mantra "Bush stole the election." This time it will be their turn. See article in www.americanpolicy.org
Part Two of the strategy is a massive drive to "Get out the vote." The money being spent by the likes of George Soros, Sean (P. Diddy) Combs, Michael Moore and the Hollywood glitterati is running into the hundreds of millions with bus loaded task forces crisscrossing the country, hitting every college campus and even going door-to-door in the ghetto neighborhoods to enroll the "new voters." Some estimates of the disparity between democrats and republicans are running 250 to 1 in these registration drives. Of course no proof of citizenship is required to "sign-up" these prospective voters.
As an extension of this tactic numerous rock groups and entertainers are planning free concerts on election day where busses and cars will be on hand to transport the "voters" to the election sites. The target cities are in key states like Pennsylvania, Florida, New Jersey and Ohio where, in a close election, a swing of any one of these could decide the final outcome.
Pollsters are voicing concerns that much of their polling data does not represent this "new wave" of registered voters since the numbers they work with, to get statistical samples, are those of people who are " regular voters" or "most likely to vote" based on previous elections. Democrat party chieftains like DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe are calling this the "under the radar effect" and gloating about how this could "change the outcome" without the Republicans even knowing it.
Part Three of the plan will go into action on election-day. If it appears that a state is close as to the outcome, they will have people show up at the polling places who have purposely not registered, then when they are denied a ballot they will shout about being discriminated against, based on race or religion and "denied" their constitutional rights.
Immediately, the teams of trial lawyers will have their affidavits filed with a "friendly" Federal District Court judge asking for a "stay" in the final ratification of the election. They will not wait for the states' election officials to validate the election as was the case with Katherine Harris in Florida. They will run around the state law and attempt to create a "constitutional crises" as they almost succeeded in doing the last time. The money to retain these lawyers has already been raised and by their own count runs over fourteen million dollars as reported by Fox News on October 6, 2004. According to a recent report filed with Newsmax.com the Democrat National Committee has twenty-five thousand lawyers already enlisted for this election-day assault on election results. Concurrent to the legal actions will be an army of public relations flaks pouring out an endless stream of press releases all designed to build the case for "voter fraud" as designed by George W. Bush and his supporters.
Leading the charge on behalf of Big Media will be the New York Times, The Los Angles Times, CBS and CNN.
The hoped-for result would be a Kerry victory but short of that would be a series of riots in major cities and an attempt at "making the country ungovernable," thus setting the stage for Martial Law.
If all this was done at the same time another terrorist attack occurred the situation could result in a nightmare of unfathomable consequences and chaos.
Do I believe this will happen? All I can say at this point is, if you
connect the dots on what has been happening, as numerated above, and
listen for the drum beats to grow louder--as they will--then it is
certainly within the realm of possibility, if not probability. If you ask "Would they do something like that?" my answer is an unqualified "Yes" based on what they have already expressed verbally or in print and are already planning.
With the levels of hatred already fomented toward George W. Bush, many of this country's Radical Left will do what ever is necessary to stop his re-election even if it means the destruction of the country itself.
Not all of those opposing the administration will be complicit in any of these maneuvers, but too many will become what Lenin also referred to as "useful idiots." Most people will sit on their hands and view the events with the same shock they experienced on 9/11 not believing "it could happen here." But, what they don't realize, or refuse to acknowledge, is the fact that it is already happening here and this "Unholy Alliance," as David Horowitz titles his new book, is already in place waiting to strike.
"What can we do?" It is really quite simple; we can send this message far and wide and try to put enough light on the scheme before it happens to stop it. If it proves to be nothing more than a tempest in a tea pot then I, with you, will breathe a sigh of relief. I hope that is the case.

Save The United States of America!


**********


For information on the author, see the following: http://www.insiderreport.net/biography.html

This report is a warning of what we MAY be seeing in just a few weeks
when this country goes to the polls. The author, Larry Abraham, has a
long history of successfully predicting the activities of the enemies of this country. I commend this article to your careful attention! I have also attached the article in WORD format so that you may forward the article as widely as possible, as rapidly as possible. Perhaps if we can get enough people alerted to this potential coup, we can blunt the drive to make it happen!
Insider Report is a private newsletter commenting on political, social and economic events. Information is obtained from resources believed to be reliable, but cannot be guaranteed as to its accuracy or completeness. Use of such information or recommendations is at the risk of the reader, without responsibility on our part. Members of Insider Report staff may from time to time hold positions in investments mentioned. (Back issues of Insider Report are $12 each.) Copyright C 2004 by A.M.D.G. Ltd., Inc.




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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:05 PM
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1. As carefully as this was written, his mind is spaghetti from a can.
I can't fathom his fear of Dems - I'll bet he writes with as much fear and delusion about foreigners and other outcasts.

Well, the outcasts are back! And their brains are awake and their muscles are going to get them up and out to vote and stand in line for hours, if necessary.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:06 PM
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2. Don't waste your time. He is a total nut job.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:17 PM
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3. What a nutjob. Forget trying to understand this crap, it's too convoluted
and poorly thought out. (Excuse me for trying to associate the word thought and this guys screed, just couldn't come up with a better word.)

You really need to worry if you start to understand this guy's rant. It's pure paranoia and more that a little projection. I mean, wasn't it his guy that stole the last one?
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:19 PM
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4. I can top that
I happened to be visiting a fairly upscale hotel restaurant that has several private dining rooms. I started wandering waiting for the rest of my party to arrive and came across a group of people going into one of these private rooms. There was a mish-mash of men and women of various ages and a coffee and tea service had been set up. What was really odd was among the group where a few burly men wearing sercurity shirts. I asked one of them what was up and he told me it was none of my business.

I was curious and I noticed that the room they were going into was actually partitioned off from a larger room. I made my way to the adjoining area and I was able to sort of hear the speaker from the podium. He was discussing the Day After Project. The point seemed to be coordinating ways of securing the city by a citizen militia on November 3rd.

Security was preventing recording devices and no pieces of paper were given out and the hotel only booked the gathering as 'The Bilkman Party' so no one can verify my story, but it was scary, I tell you. They were planning on taking over if Bush doesn't win.

And if anyone believes this, I've also got a bridge to sell.

This guy's story is just as valid.
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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:35 PM
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6. Dude
You had me going

:yourock:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:33 PM
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5. Once again we have Freeper Crap posted here...
...in its entirety, including the whole propaganda on the author.

It is beyond me why this shit is posted here.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:38 PM
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7. Projection.
Classic psych case. His party does these things, therefore his opponents must do these things AND worse to justify his party doing these things.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:39 PM
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8. Not just paranoid, it's preemptive justification
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 08:46 PM by booley
..to justify all the vote fraud and suppression that the republicans are planning or presently engaged in.

because they are sure the Dems are doing it too (and while I'm hardly proud of what people like McAucliff (sp) did to nader, it's still hardly the same as ripping up registrations or misleading people about being registered or the rest that the repubs have been doing)

So when Shrub loses, it wil be becuase of trial lawyers. when Republicans are caught once again trying to cheat,or just generally fucking up it wil be becuase of Big Media reporting it (Ignoring how that same Big Media covered for and shilled for shrub, or that Shrub tried to return the favor in the form of sweeping media deregulation).

And so any outcome that doesn't put Shrub back in the white house will be some evil Liberal conspiracy, with Jesse Jackson and Micheal Moore as it' high priests, Kerry (or maybe Hillery Clinton) as it's secret master and anyone who happens to think that Shrub lost fairly a "willing dupe" and 'useful idiot" (becuase God and Goddess forbid that anyone might disagree with the official republican spin, much less that that spin be entirely wrong)

Which means that the die hard republicans will still not have to own up to the fact that after dominating the political field, thier policies have failed. After being given a cushy ride with the whole country behind him, Shrub has bankrupted our nation. That despite thier best efforts, thier guy will never be as Good a president as Clinton. Or Carter. Or Nixon for that matter.
They won't have to consider that maybe God doesn't really like them after all.
And so they may continue to lie , cheat and steal (and lets not forget Freudian Projection) to stay in power. After all, their reasoning goes, if your enemy is evil, it's ok to do whatever you want to them becuase YOU are good.

Thus irresponsability and hypocrasy become thier own reward.

I think I like this line most of all "Despite the fact that not one shred of evidence speaks to this imaginary concoction by Jackson and Gore, it is now being accepted as fact by countless thousands of their followers."

yeah, us silly Liberals, thinking numerouse documents, sworn statements, thousands of witnesses and investigative reports could be called "evidence". I mean, just becuase jeb and harris took "felons" off the rolls for crimes they committed in 2007 doesn't mean anything weird was going on!

As Malloy would say, this kind of person is a TRUE BELEIVER. Facts are but silly and strange things to them, to be ignored when inconvenient.

Sorry if I sound harsh but after years of this crap, my patience just ain't what it used to be for idiots like this...
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:42 PM
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9. Nutjob nothing...fuck you, Freeper Dave
YOU are the enemy of this country, assbag.

I'm not only motivated, I'm not only pissed, but now...I'm moshing.
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:53 PM
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10. Apologies, troublein...
and to others if I offended by posting like this, but my niece sent this to me and she's young and salvageable--I pray. I think maybe I ought to landline to her and see if she knows anything about this or what the story really is-- does she understand, or does she just forward indiscriminately. I mean, I'm paranoid---but this shit really gets me freaky. But like I heard before, If you ain't paranoid, you ain't payin attention.
BTW, Northwind, Luminous had me going, too... like I said, I'm just a tad bit para...never mind.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:18 PM
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11. Don't these people know how to use paragraph breaks?
Jeeeezus. You can always tell a freeper post/email/etc because of

1) ALL CAPITALS or none

2) either no puncutation or! Over! Punctuating, everything?!'''''

3) Lack of paragraph breaks. The "return" key is a wonderful, wonderful thing.

4) Klever Spelling to hyde the fax that they kan't spel
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:55 PM
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12. All this guy is saying is that Democrats are working to

1) make sure no voters are disenfranchised this year

2) get out the vote

3) have lawyers in place to challenge any irregularities

This is supposed to be a big master plan of Democrats conspiring to take over the country? Hahaha! It's a plan that any sensible party would follow in order to make sure an election is fair, that nonvoters have been registered to vote, that all registered voters are allowed to vote, and that the votes are all counted.

Their plan always involves suppressing the vote because they know that the Democrat will win in virtually every fair election. That's because people know that Democrats do more for them, so more people vote Democratic than vote Republican. If the GOP wants more votes, it needs to change the way it operates, change its philosophy and offer the people more.

VOTE FRAUD ON THE PART OF A STATE (FLORIDA) + SUPREME COURT JUSTICES IN YOUR POCKET = COUP D'ETAT 2000

But I guess they never have realized that was a coup since FAUX News didn't tell them it was. Face it, freepers, your beloved Dubya stole the White House. He was afraid of having a properly done recount in Florida. Rightly so, since a later recount by the news consortium showed that the only way Bush* won was by the way it was done; in any other recount scenario, Gore won Florida and thus the presidency.

Al Gore was a decent enough man not to want bloodshed over the election and other national leaders were also reluctant to tell the truth: that we'd just had a bloodless coup right here in the good ole USA. We've all seen the consequences of trying to be gracious in "defeat" and accept a "president" selected by judges rather than by the people. It's essential that such a thing never happens again.
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