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ohio_dem_52186 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:54 PM
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Serious Input Requested - How can this be true:
From the PIPA poll released recently:
http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/Report10_21_04.pdf

Here is the format:

The issue - Bush's Position - Percent Republicans who knew his position

Labor and environmental standards in trade agreements - Opposes - 13%
Participation in land mines treaty - Opposes - 20%
Participation in a treaty that bans the testing of nuclear weapons - Opposes - 24%
Participation in the International Criminal Court - Opposes - 38%
Participation in Kyoto agreement on global warming - Opposes - 39%
Building a missile defense system - Build it now - 47%
Defense spending - Defense spending - 57%
Who should take the lead in Iraq on writing a new Constitution and building a democratic government - US - 70%

Kerry voters ranged from 43% to 81% with all except for the one above 65% and most at the higher end.

Is there something in the water in the red states???
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:05 PM
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1. People vote with their emotions and perceptions
rather than with their intellects. People who support Bush like his "John Wayne" style of governing. They don't care how he stands on any given issue. It doesn't matter as long as he beats up the bad guys.
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ohio_dem_52186 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:19 PM
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4. Unfortunately, it certainly appears that that is the case. It seems that
a lot of people "imprinted" on Bush after 9/11. Bush has since taken this good faith and perverted it to his own use.

How can Bush make peace with themself being elected by people who clearly do not know what his positions are?
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:08 PM
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2. There is another
chart that shows that the people in blue states are more educated (more college degrees i.e. smarter or at least able to tell black from white, up from down etc) than those in red states. http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9487&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported
One of my friends has extrapolated that the whole scheme of the Republicans to dismantle public education to further this trend and convert all the states to Red.
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ohio_dem_52186 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:22 PM
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5. That is an interesting page you linked.
I'm not sure if I would use the term "smarter" though...

But college does train the critical thinking/reading skills more than a typical high school curriculum does. That may explain why these people can cut through the BS...
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:18 PM
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3. Hire enough talking heads to discombobulate the masses
Have them bait and switch, misdirect.
Deliberately put important items of news in quick soundbytes that gloss over any in-depth examination of multi-sided "issues"
Make sounding like everyone else admirable...

Ditto!
Ditto!
Ditto! :P

et voila! Estupido!
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ohio_dem_52186 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:26 PM
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6. That is definitely the case on a lot of things. What do you
think about things like the Kyoto protocal? Bush has been reasonably outspoken about opposing it. Republicans are not known for great environmental records...

I would expect the default answer to be "of course he doesn't support it". Instead, people are still confounded.

I think it is brain-washing...
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