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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:46 PM
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West Wing...
Leo died.


I hate that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:47 PM
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1. arent thier rulse about spoilers? (spoiler warning)
and do you think leo will ever be found? he died in a pretty out of the way location
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:52 PM
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7. You know, watching the show...I didn't think he looked well.
I wonder in real life if he is sick.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:53 PM
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9. he might be
wouldent suprise me
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:53 AM
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32. Yeah, spoiler warnings are a good idea
I haven't seen it yet!!!! Damn.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:48 PM
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2. What happened?
I had class, do tell
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:49 PM
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3. And the part I hated ...
is that he died alone. And they don't even know it yet, everyone's going back to Washington and they haven't even found the body.

Sorry, it hit me kind of hard because my stepson died that way two years ago and no one knew until the next day. I still grieve for the fact that he was alone and had no comfort from someone's loving presence with him at that time.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:50 PM
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4. I know.
he is a vital part of the show.

I truly believe that this is its last season. If sheen is not the pres, then the show will suck
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:51 PM
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5. I'm still crying!
:cry:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:52 PM
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6. Sooner or later we'll hear that he wanted out or couldn't agree on
a contract. This stuff happens on successful running shows all the time.

I still think its one of the best scripts on TV!
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Jayster84 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:52 PM
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8. Are you sure he's dead..... hint hint. eom
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:55 PM
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12. Well by going by the clips of next week
Yes he's dead. :cry:
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Jayster84 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:57 PM
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14. Don't be so sure...
I've heard differently.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:12 AM
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54. Your source is wrong.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:53 PM
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:54 PM
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11. that sounds right
I thought he was skinnier and quieter than before
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:57 PM
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13. oh how sad
I wish him well in his last days
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:19 PM
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20. Your daughter shouldn't be discussing this with you
there are very stiff penalties for breaching HIPAA standards.
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:45 AM
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31. My serious bad!
My daughter-in-law didn’t tell me. While waiting to give her a ride home, I overheard her conversation with his doctor. I should not have posted that and really don’t know why I did because I don't normally gossip. I take full responsibility for being a complete idiot in saying anything about the situation. I’m now going to go soak my head in the toilet bowl as penance for my stupidity.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:11 AM
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49. Please take this seriously.
Don't be cute. The HIPAA rules seem cumbersome, but there are good reasons to protect patient confidentiality.

You don't normally gossip?
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:17 AM
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52. If this is serious,
you need to delete your posts now. This is an unbelievable breach of privacy.
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:59 AM
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43. yes, there are...serious breach...
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:20 PM
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21. Is your daughter in law familiar with HIPAA?
>My daughter-in-law read his MRI and other test results.<

I realize that this is a message board, but it is not okay to divulge confidential information.

IMHO. YMMV.

Julie
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:31 AM
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37. If your daughter-in-law was involved in his medical care
then shame on her for divulging personal medical information to you, who in turn divulged his personal medical information to the world here.

Confidentiality is paramount.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:59 PM
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15. I do find it hard to believe that no body found him and
everyone flew away, wondering where he was. Where the F is the SS agents. They have to have perimeters set up to protect the folks at Camp David, I mean, it's not just fly in and fly out and hope no nutty hunters or survivalist comes in out of the bushes to attack.

I know, it is t.v., but please, this is a bit odd.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:20 AM
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23. couldn't happen. the entire area is under electronic surveillance
motion detectors, infrared scopes by the marine guards, etc. a marine buddy of mine had the assignment of walking and patrolling camp david. a deer can't move in the woods without the SS and marines knowing about it.

i loved john spencer in this series, he is a class act and his work on west wing was consistently at the top of the class. i will miss him and that big block of cheese day.

good bye leo.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:54 AM
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53. I will miss Leo!
:cry:

I have loved this actor since his days on LA Law! It is sad he is so ill. My prayers are with him.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:55 AM
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34. And I thought maybe I was the only one who found that odd...
...when I watched the episode tonight. I've read some presidential bios, history, etc., and it was my understanding that a butterfly couldn't flit around unaccounted for up at Camp David. Marines everywhere, SS agents lurking about, electronic surveillance of the whole compound, and so on.
I've loved Leo's character, so it was sad for me to see his (apparent) departure. I think I read somewhere where they're going to replace President "Bartlett" with a Repuke to close out the series? Would that be the Alan Alda character? Anyway, the West Wing has always been one of my favs.
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MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:15 AM
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50. *nodding yes* Alan Alda is the repub challenger. I wonder if he
does become president. *shrug*
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:01 PM
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16. NEW RULE......
You can't post this stuff until after 10pm PDT!!!
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:02 PM
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17. it is 11 pm
the show was like 4 hours ago
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shmendrick Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:51 AM
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39. All you had to do
Is put "Spoilers" in the thread title.

That's it.

Doesn't take much effort, or thought.

How about showing some consideration next time.
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Jayster84 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:03 PM
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18. If you do a search for west wing spoilers....
You'll find that he's in the whole season. In real life John Spencer is in very good health. It's called acting and makeup people.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:16 PM
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19. Exactly. Here's what I found:
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 11:16 PM by Longhorn
The president will ask McGarry to become a trusted adviser and press secretary C.J. Cregg (Allison Janney) to become his new chief of staff.

The show just ended with the same preview they've been showing all week -- Leo having a heart attack. That's all we're supposed to know right now. ;)

Link: http://www.westwingepguide.com/S6/Episodes/114_TBW.html
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:00 AM
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22. I gotta admit.
I didn't see that one coming.

I thought Leo was going to start boozing up again.

One question. What was it that he dropped in the puddle after Jed dumped him?
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:25 AM
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25. The button fell off his jacket
I didn't see the heart attack coming either (well, until he asked for the antacid). I thought sure it was going to be booze.

That was a really horrifying portrayal of a heart attack. I don't know if it was realistic or not, but I sure hope I never find out.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:40 AM
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27. It was an interesting portrayal
It looked so much more like an emotional breakdown, which was probably their intent.

Glad to hear he's not leaving the show.

Janney as COS is a very daring pick. We really get to see what she's made of now.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:21 AM
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24. Very sad
The fact that Jeb is using their differences over foreign policy affect their old friendship is just a misery. How can he talk to him the way he did in that last scene? Just because he was more hawkish than him and wanted more bombing?

I dont even think Shrub would treat Andy Card that way.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:46 AM
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28. Their differences were less about foreign poicy
and more about the fundemental differences in how they view the world.

Jed's idealism vs Leo's pragmatism.
They are so close despite almost completely divergent world views.

I thought it was very interesting to watch and a natural storyline to pursue, given the way the characters have developed.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:38 AM
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26. Damn, damn, damn, WHY did I look at this thread!?! nt
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:00 AM
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29. I don't watch the show, but you should've marked the thread with "spoiler"
Just the decent thing to do for those who might not have seen the show yet, know what I mean?
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AngryLizard Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:30 AM
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30. I can't believe they sent Leo out like that
Wells fucking ruined my show!

That was the best relationship on the show, and after everything Bartlet and Leo had gone through together, THIS is what broke them apart?? BS!!! And no one noticed that he's not around? Or that his clothes are still in his room? No one cares??

West Wing jumped the shark when Rob Lowe left (what a maroon) and then jumped it for good when Sorkin left. I can't stop watching, but I really wish I could, because it's physically painful to do so.

That bastard RUINED MY SHOW!!!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:42 AM
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33. Thanks. Thanks a lot!!!
I hadn't seen it yet.

:mad:
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 03:12 AM
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35. Who's Leo?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 03:13 AM
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36. Yeah, thanks.
Some of us who don't have time to watch tv a lot, and have to rely upon taping shows, then stockpiling them until we get time to see them later.

Wouldn't hurt to consider others.
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shmendrick Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:49 AM
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38. What the fuck!!!
Can't you put a spoiler warning in the title?

Just "WEst wing?"

What's wrong with you?

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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:36 AM
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40. thanks for spoiling it.
I forgot all about the West Wing tonight.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:55 AM
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41. Well I missed the show--
could someone please recap what happened?
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:58 AM
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42. barf, what is that all about...can't believe they would write him out...
plus I hate one of the new actors they are bringing on.(no, I love Alan Alda..)
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:03 AM
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44. I figured a heart attack from the previews
they had shown. It looked like a heart attack to me.

On the show, he grabbed at his gut, his chest, he favored one side, appeared to have radiating neck pain, and very early in the morning (dawn). It looked like it was brought on by emotional distress as well as physical problems.

I'll be surprised if he does make it after being left out there alone for so long. What a terrible way to die: alone, no help, no pain relief. The only thing good I can see in it being outside at dawn.

It looks like a good season. Last week's episode was wonderful also.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:24 AM
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45. I missed it. Oh man!
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ace2u_in_MD Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:36 AM
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46. My take...
Leo survives. After the heart attack, he would have had to step down a CoS.

Bartlett decided to boot Leo to prevent the total destruction of their friendship over policy. Bartlett is a lame duck, and has a legacy to prepare.

Flamingo as CoS? Should be interesting. I don't think the character is up to the task.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:06 AM
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47. It's on my TiVo and I haven't watched it yet. Geez, thanks a lot.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 09:08 AM by NYCGirl
I'm sorry I clicked on this thread.
:grr:

Edit: And I'm also sorry that I responded and sent it back to the top for others to see.

Could the mod please lock this so it'll go away? Or could the author edit to put SPOILER in the title?
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:11 AM
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48. please put SPOILER in your thread title
I have the West Wing on TIVO because of the Sox last night and haven't watched it yet and this ruined it. I'm sure there are many more like me.
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:16 AM
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51. Jackass!
Use spoiler warnings!!!!

Jackass!! :cry:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:44 PM
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55. Jebus...I am sorry
I did not put spoiler in my title but get the frick off it.

It was WED NIGHT and after 11 and you KNEW it was going to be discussion of the show! So get off your pompus high horse and be done with it.

Besides, I didn't KNOW I had to put SPOILER IN IT>
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