Self Deleted....too many people like Eminem, i guess.

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[Worst Username Ever]

1. and I still like his music n/t

[Bridget Burke]

7. I didn't know Pat Robertson had recorded...

What are his biggest hits?

[Worst Username Ever]

12. Pat Robertson? Wha?

[Goldmund]

2. So what's your point?

Nobody here was going to sleep with Eminem as far as I know.

[UpsideDownFlag]

3. my point

was that it seems over the past few days, we were on the verge of erecting a statue to em's awesomeness. i'm just trying to show the other side of him.

[Goldmund]

5. I actually loved the video

I think he's musically a joke, and I don't ever listen to any of his stuff, but the video was totally badass. And I think that it'll make a difference in the election -- the Eminem demographic usually doesn't vote.

But you know, people often have the tendency to "erect statues" of people who do things they admire. I, for one, have a big aversion to that -- even when it comes to John Kerry, people swooning about how "handsome" and "presidential" he is and all that. He's our candidate now, we'll work our asses off to elect him, and then when he's President, we'll see how he does. He'll still be just as "handsome" and "presidential", but if he were to do things I disagree with, I'll be opposed to him.

Analogously, no matter what you think of Eminem as a person, the video is the video. Separate the deed from the person.

Otherwise you'll catch yourself caring about who gets blowjobs from whom.

[K-W]

9. His other side where he is an arch conservative?

your point is much less obvious than you seem to think it is.

[LoverOfLiberty]

4. I'm not a huge Eminem fan

But I would encourage you to read the information at this link. It might change your preception on how his lyrics should be interpreted.

http://www.narconews.com/eminem1.html

[LoZoccolo]

6. People think the new Jib Jab animation is homophobic.

I know you're not the real Jib Jab, but you named yourself after them, and a lot of people here thought the new animation was homophobic when I took a poll about it.

[K-W]

11. I think if everyone who had ever had an improper attitude in thier lives

was banned from being a liberal, there wouldnt be too many liberals anywhere. But apparently if you havent spent your entire life living a perfectly liberal way you might as well be Pat Buchanan.

[K-W]

8. That is an absurd comparison, what are you thinking?

Pat Buchanan is a man who has made it his life's work to cast all liberals out of the country, but happens to agree with us on ONE issue.

Eminem is a rapper, who by all acounts is politically liberal, but happens to have mysogenestic and homophobic attitudes that I would venture to say anyone who grew up the way he did would have a hard time overcoming.

This is a rediculous comparison. If you are going to bash the man at least do so with some small amount of sense behind it.

[Bridget Burke]

10. He's thinking "this is a good diversion"

Just like the anti-Country music thread he started recently.

You can rack up lots of posts in a short time if you really try.

[UpsideDownFlag]

14. oh, good lord.

it wasn't anti-country music, and if you'll notice, most people agreed with me. it was anti-CMT modern country crap.

do you disagree that Eminem is a mysoginistic homophobe?

[UpsideDownFlag]

13. important. note.

i am not comparing the two men. read my original post carefully, k-w. what i did was compare how the two have been treated here.

i answered your 'absurd' remark in the other thread, as well.

[K-W]

15. If you arent comparing the two men, what on earth are you comparing?

Im not sure I see much value in comparing the treatment of two unrelated people.

[UpsideDownFlag]

16. there's value to it when it shows a pattern of people wondering...

he's with me on this issue, he must support me overall.

[K-W]

17. You have created a straw man.

If there are people on this forum who automatically believe that anyone who agrees with them on one issue must agree with them on all issues, they are few and far between. And we really dont need a thread about them. Anyone with enough common sense to walk and chew gum understands that someone can agree with you on one issue and not on others.

[Moderator]

18. I'm locking this thread

Reason:

The original post has been deleted .