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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:51 PM
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Surrounded by Freepers at work - HEEELLLLP!
There are several * supporters where I work. The head honcho is a big one; he keeps calling * "the better man." When I asked him to name ONE good thing * has done, he just walked away.

How do all of you deal with these delusional people at work? :crazy:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:53 PM
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1. If they are too ignorant to even
listen to you and just walk off then don't bring up politics with them. Just wait of Nov. 3rd so you can walk around with a big smile on your face all day long and for the next four years.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:54 PM
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2. That's basically what I've decided
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 01:54 PM by Mad_Dem_X
I've told a few people that I am no longer discussing politics in the office, with anyone. It'll be difficult, but I guess that's the best thing to do.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:54 PM
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Don't jeopardize your paycheck for those knuckleheads...
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 01:55 PM by politicaholic
Just keep your mouth shut and be very happy to the point of smug when Kerry is voted in as President.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:54 PM
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3. i don't talk pol at work with gopers with anymore
it's pointless in this environment. do you think you're gonna change this person's mind?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:34 PM
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11. I'm with you there
Those people hate to be confused with facts.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:04 PM
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4. This is so frustrating!
Bush supporters flatly refuse to listen or discuss the facts. They hear the Faux or Limbaugh version and block out anything that contradicts what they want to hear. :mad:

Below are links for 2 excellent articles for printout or emailing:

http://www.thenation.com/special/pdf/100facts.pdf

http://www.opednews.com/wade_100804_TheChristian.doc
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:19 PM
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8. Rush is the world to some of them
I was down in my company's North Carolina office about 2 months ago and got stuck in the middle of a bunch of Freepers (some of them planned their lunch hours around Bush's appearance on Rush even)

It was amazing what they believed:
1) The Republican Party is truly the best place for minorities
2) The Democratic Party is much farther to the left than it was during the 60s
3) Ahhnold is more charismastic than Reagan
4) Big regret that Clinton was convicted after he was impeached.

I kept quiet, as I'm not the arguing type.

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Pattib Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:10 PM
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5. I feel for ya. I think I am the only Democrat in my small N. Fl. town.
It's hell on earth to live here. I swear my husband and I want to move so bad. Unfortunately, both my kids are in college a few hundred miles to the east and west of us. The Fl. panhandle is notorious for conservative yahoos.

It stinks when you end up retiring from the military and have to stay where your house landed. At first we said, just until the kids get out of high school, then it became college. I need to get out of this place before the pod people come and get me.

I visit the Dem. headquarters in town every other month or so and it gives me some solace. Hang in there.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:11 PM
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6. Just keep playing the Eminem 'Mosh' video at your desk
They'll like that.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:18 PM
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7. Cattle prods.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 02:18 PM by Redleg
That's how I deal with freeping fools. Actually, I am fortunate that my conservative colleagues are all so embarrassed by Bush they have shut-up about Kerry.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:46 PM
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15. that just proves that they have a brain between them........
The truly brainless know no shame.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 03:18 PM
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17. I wish mine were embarrassed by him!
They must all be in heavy, heavy denial...
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Sarrek420 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:23 PM
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9. Hi Mad_Dem_X
The only thing I can think of, if I was in your situation, would be to look forward to next week - because I'll get to watch all the freepers around me go out of their minds. And I wouldn't have to say anything to cause it.

;)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:25 PM
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10. *he* walked away.....you did just fine!
:)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:36 PM
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12. I'm in the same boat as you.
Out of 30 people who work in my office, only 5 are Democrats. But of course, I'm in the red state of Georgia.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 03:44 PM
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18. I feel your pain
I work in Atlanta. One of the few Democrats at my company. I tend to huddle with the other liberals for support. But I'm definitely a target for the hate-radio crowd. I get lots of snide remarks and "funny" emails. Today's email was campaign buttons featuring Kerry. An example: photos of Bush, Kerry, and Hillary. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. This is the level of discourse. I retaliate by talking over their heads, which is easy. Just mention people they don't know (but should) and news they don't know (but should). They respond with juvenile jokes and sound bites.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:37 PM
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13. Luckily, there are no Freepers where I work...
Thankfully I live and work in Los Angeles, aka Kerry Country!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:46 PM
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14. I listen to music and Air America ALL DAY.
I'm surrounded by repukes!
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:55 PM
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16. you probably shouldn't follow my advice
Since you are at work, all of the advice here from people to stay calm and avoid argumnents is good and wise counsel. As you are feeling frustrated and outgunned, though, I will offer my suggestions for dealing with Republican yappers.

The whole point of politics is to give the little people a voice and a fighting chance to not starve. The wealthy people don't NEED a voice in a democracy. They would do just swell with no voting, no politics, no government and no democracy at all. Think about it. Do away with government and the wealthy will rule - it is called feudalism and we will all be the starving peasants.

So the idea of two parties is silly, since one (or both) are just bought off by the wealthy people, who then set about to abolish government.

This idea that the Republican party has a "philosophy" that deserves "equal time" is just plain wacky. Their philosophy about government is that it should be destroyed.

An analogy - some people may want to sail across the lake, others may want to row. Those are two different opinions as to how to get folks across the lake. Sinking the boat so no one gets across the lake is not a legitimate opinion that deserves consideration, especially when it is being offered up by people who own yatchs and can cross in style any time they choose.

See what I mean? There is no such thing as politics that are "class warfare" or "targeting the rich" or that are "too radical" or "too far to the left." Politics is the one and only antidote and check against the targeting of the poor by the rich - that is the true "class warfare" - and politics is the one and only check against radical right wing rule - feudalism and tyranny. If we are going to throw away progressive politics, then there is no need to have politics at all.

A true political spectrum would put Trotsky on the left, Malcom X in the center and Dennis on the right. Anything to the right of that is NO politics and NO government - just out-and-out iron rule by the upper class.

Liberal and progressive politics fail because we imagine that Republicanism is a legitimate alternate political philosophy, and give it credibility, and try to understand it and seek compromise with it. You can't compromise with people whose goal is to sink the boat! You can't understand a philosophy that says one thing and does another! And, since their goal is to sink the boat, they are free to make up just any old nonsense that sounds good to get people to vote for them and call that nonsense a philosophy.

Remember that as a liberal you are in the right. I know it is brutal, but stand firm. You aren't right because your philosophy is "better" than the other person's philosophy, you are right because your views are based on reality and truth and their's are not. Big difference. We will prevail, and the key is not so much to persuade people to agree with us as it is to re-phrase the debates in such a way that they are able to cast off their illusions and see reality, or give up and surrender power.

Common sense tells us that what the leaders of the two parties want, they would get instantly and automatically if we just eliminated government, individual rights and democracy altogether, starting with the Constitution - and by God, just take a look! That is precisely what they are doing.

The government exists to protect us and to help us - the little people - no other reason to have it, and it belongs to us and not to a privileged wealthy class of people. It is the one thing that they should not be able to buy. And can there be any doubt that they have bought it?

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