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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:41 PM
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Florida's Computers Have Already Counted Thousands of Votes For George W.
BROOKLYN, NY -- (OfficialWire) -- 10/28/04 -- Before one vote was cast in early voting this week in Florida, the new touch-screen computer voting machines of Florida started out with a several-thousand vote lead for George W. Bush. That is, the mechanics of the new digital democracy boxes "spoil" votes at a predictably high rate in African-American precincts, effectively voiding enough votes cast for John Kerry to in a tight race, keep the White House safe from the will of the voters.


http://www.baou.com/newswire/main.php?action=recent&rid=1834
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:45 PM
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1. We need to have these machines locked.....
...paper ballots and a U.N. Vote Fraud inspection team for Florida ASAP.
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:48 PM
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2. The UN
cannot monitor our elections. No matter how much people want them to.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:42 PM
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4. Why not????
n/t
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:08 PM
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5. Because they are a foreign governing body
Do we have any UN Bases here in the United States? Does the UN come here during disasters?? And Id have to do a little research but I believe that the constitution forbids this kind of involvment of a foreign governing body from any decision making ability in the United States.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:25 PM
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6. The UN does not have military bases - anywhere
The UN doesn't "come here after disasters" because we never requested their help.

If a few blue helmets at every polling station would deter the GOP from stealing another election - I'm all for it.

:)
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:32 PM
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8. Im not
for the UN doing anything for us that we can do ourselves. If we as a country have to rely on foreign countries to keep our elections fair and above board then this country is done for. I guess ur gunna make me do that research damn I really didnt have time for it but I guess I will :P
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:37 PM
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9. "I'm not for the UN doing anything for us that we can do ourselves"
Apparently, it seems as if we're having problems having fair elections at the moment.

Sad, but with Diebold essentially doing so much vote counting, what do we expect?
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:42 PM
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11. Then our country is done
We are supposed to be the "Example Of Democracy" for the "Free World" are we not? Although I have not seen any direct examples of vote fraud yet I wouldnt mind seeing some. This is of course a complex subject to deal with so feel free to help with any research you may come across.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:12 PM
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16. The destruction of Dem voter registrations in Nevada,
The Diebold CEO comment on "doing anything to help Bush," tons of others. Google Palast and voting. You'll see more than you want.

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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:55 PM
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18. well I believe UN headquarters is in New York City
Or, for you, perhaps you know it as Jew York City.

What's your problem with the UN?

I know my Dad's a major freeper-type and he thinks the UN should be abolished and its buildings torn to the ground.

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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:32 PM
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3.  U.N. Vote Fraud inspection team.
Florida and Ohio turn them away.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:27 PM
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7. DAMN -- I KNEW THEY'D BE COUNTING VOTES EARLY
Damn, damn, damn, damn, DAMN.

DAMN!!!
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:38 PM
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10. If this can e proven its unlawful !
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:04 PM
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13. Your right!
This should make us ALL know the Voting Bill of Rights like the back of our hand.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:01 AM
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20. Here is another thread
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:53 PM
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12. Why hasn't Jeb Bush been put on trial for his fuck-up 4 years ago?
He should be sacked on the spot for this.

He runs the state. He has ultimate responsibility.

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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:04 PM
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14. kick nom
kick
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:06 PM
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15. I don't think we Dems should roll over on florida
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 08:07 PM by JellyBean1
get the lawyers and the muscle involved. Bust heads if needed. Do not allow the crooks to win. We do not need the UN, this is our problem and we need to solve it, once and for all.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:20 PM
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17. Just talked to my mom from Florida
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 09:22 PM by camero
Told her to vote early and ask for the paper ballot. I also told her about the diebold software and how the CEO promised Ohio for Bush and their links with the fundies. She tried to say the same thing could happen with paper ballots being lost but she's going with the paper.

She's voting for Kerry because my brothers and sisters there are all draft age and she watched the debates.

I have more ammo now when I call her again.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:58 PM
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19. That's great
These machines were clearly engineered by grade school kids.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:17 AM
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21. Kick! N/M
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