boy the press conference guy looks nervous

[still_one]

[juliagoolia]

1. they better ask him hard questions damn it! eom

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. It's hard to lie in front of millions for the first time

n/t

[AIJ Alom]

3. note: they even made a special lectern so they both can talk from it.

[ogradda]

4. yeah he does

they both do.

[madmax]

5. Lying threw his teeth

I don't believe anything that comes from this administration.

[Hepburn]

6. What in the hell....

....is that soldier saying?????

[AlCzervik]

8. yes, we used some of the stuff we found to destroy the stuff we found

see, no way to prove anything.

[Hepburn]

11. Soooooo.....

....HTF does this explain the intact seals with the correct serial numbers as seen in the video???

Nice trick, huh. What did they do? Pick the lock (seal) and replace it? Since they are on the video cutting the locks and the video is dated April 18th..........this is making NO sense.

[AlCzervik]

12. now, now, look away, he's distracting you

and you will obey!

[Hepburn]

20. LOL.....

.....not doing a very good job of it are they??? Seems like one or two of the reporters are digging in on some of the questions.

[atreides1]

7. What His Rank

n/t

[rsmith6621]

9. Does He Still Have Sand Between His Toes

[AlCzervik]

10. a pentagon civilian is up there translating now

not really helping much.

[Hepburn]

13. And making LESS sense than the soldier.....

...and IMO that is hard to do.

[AlCzervik]

14. exactly, talking out of his ass

spinning like a top.

[burythehatchet]

15. They are digging deep into their asses to pull these guys out

This has become a comedy. Catch the repeat on The Daily Show

[Hepburn]

16. Whoa........

..........they are even spinning the seals with the serial numbers. LMBO.....in shocked laughter. How in the hell do they think anyone would two cells of gray matter would buy any of this BS???????

[AlCzervik]

18. Barbara Starr from CNN aint having any of their shit

[burythehatchet]

19. I'd have to be really under chemical sedation

to do this job

[Hepburn]

21. ....or to believe any of this shit. n/t

[leftofthedial]

22. this is for their base

none of whom have two cells of gray matter.

[Hepburn]

24. Hmmmmmmm....

........I would go with one...but dont you think two is a bit high???

[leftofthedial]

32. vacuum?

more like it

[burythehatchet]

17. the boys at the pentagon are tap dancing

even the reporters are growing nads now

[Hepburn]

23. LOL........

........they should have just kept their mouths shut. IMO: This is WORSE than NO explanation.

I love the spokesperson who keeps NERVOUSLY jumping in to say what the solider REALLY mean or to spin other alleged facts.

[seemslikeadream]

25. Oregonian says he told military about looting of weapons

from LBN
hnsez (14 posts) Fri Oct-29-04 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #32

39. here it is

Oregonian says he told military about looting of weapons

08:48 AM PDT on Friday, October 29, 2004

Associated Press

Two U.S. aid workers, including one from Oregon, said they reported the looting of an Iraqi weapons depot to U.S. military officials in October, 2003, but were told that there were not enough troops to seal off the facility, The Oregonian reported in its Friday editions.


"We were outraged," said Wes Hare, city manager of La Grande, who was working in Iraq as part of a rebuilding program. A colleague, Jerry Kuhaida, told the newspaper it appeared that the explosives at the Ukhaider Ammunition Storage Area had found their way to insurgents targeting U.S. forces.

"There's no question in my mind that the stuff in Ukhaider was used by terrorists," Kuhaida said from his home in Tennessee.


The men said they informed Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, but were told that the United States lacked the troops to guard the facility, which had more than 60 bunkers packed with munitions.
The issue of whether U.S. forces did enough to keep Iraqi munitions from insurgents has become an issue in the presidential campaign. Reports this week indicated that about 380 tons of highly powerful explosives had disappeared from a weapons depot in Al-Qaqaa after the arrival of U.S. forces.


Al Qaqaa is about 50 miles northeast of the Ukhaider site, which was used to store artillery shells and small-arms ammunition.
A Pentagon official told The Oregonian Thursday that the United States had been forced to leave many ammunition dumps in Iraq unguarded. The official, who declined to be identified, said the U.S. military had identified about 900 sensitive weapons sites in Iraq but had assigned only "a brigade-sized force" to deal with them. A brigade typically has about 3,500 soldiers.


The official said he could not speak to how Sanchez had handled the report about Ukhaider.


The aid workers were in Iraq as employees of the International City/County Management Association. They said they found the depot on Oct. 10, 2003, while on a recreational trip.


The area appeared to be guarded by a half-dozen people in their teens and early 20s who had perhaps one rifle among them, and no vehicle to patrol the complex's hundreds of acres, according to the newspaper's report. Kuhaida said it wasn't clear whether the people were working for the military, the insurgents or someone else.
The guards told Kuhaida and Hare that they regularly heard trucks coming and going at night. The men were shown an intruder's truck that was blown up one night, apparently by an errant explosive.

more
http://www.kgw.com/iraq/stories/kgw_102904_news_iraq_we...

more
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=942653&mesg_id=942653

[seemslikeadream]

26. more from link

"The big concern we had was that something had to be done," Kuhaida said. "It was all fresh ammunition and gunpowder." So Kuhaida pledged to try to contact Sanchez, who was commanding U.S. forces in Iraq at the time. He found Sanchez's e-mail address on the Internet and sent a message saying he wanted to pass along some information.


When one of the general's aides replied, Kuhaida sent a list of munitions found at the depot, along with coordinates of its location. And he urged the military to secure the site.


The aide sent an immediate reply that said "they were taking action," Kuhaida said.


But when Kuhaida met the aide face to face in Baghdad a month later and asked about the depot, the aide told him the military simply didn't have enough troops to guard the site.


"There's no question in my mind that these guys were sincere about it," he said of their desire to keep munitions from falling into the wrong hands. "They just didn't have the resources."


U.S. military and intelligence officials were well-aware of the facility. Declassified documents from the first Persian Gulf War show that it was bombed in 1991, as a suspected storage site for biological weapons. On Jan. 16, 2003, before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, U.N. inspectors said they found 11 empty chemical warheads at Ukhaider. They said at the time the complex consisted of a series of bunkers built in the late 1990s.

more
http://www.kgw.com/iraq/stories/kgw_102904_news_iraq_we...

[Hepburn]

27. Total Bull Shit IMO...

...and not even high quality bull shit.

[Cat Atomic]

28. Blitzer anxiously points out that the amount of missing explosives

is tiny compared to the total amount of munitions destroyed by US forces in the entire country of Iraq. Such a lap dog.

Good boy, Wolf. Roll over.

[AP]

31. Right. Only enough to blow limbs off 13,000 soldiers rather than 130,000.

What a relief.

Thank god the Pentagon is only letting a small percentage of the bomb-making material we temporarily had under our control back into the hands of people trying to kill our soldiers.

Way to support the troops.

[gumby]

29. "That takes understanding facts"

The pentagon guy says and we all know "facts" are for the reality-based community -- facts are not necessary in BushWorld.

[stevietheman]

30. This will backfire

This will backfire. It was the Bush campaign that lost several campaign days to Kerry's attacks. All this news conference will do is muddy the issue and raise more questions. It's far from a slam-dunk against Kerry. If anything, most of the damage against Bush will remain.

On top of all that, also consider the answer to reporters that basically read "We don't know that the explosives we're talking are the same as the explosives in question". Wow.

Rove miscalculated, again.