God Forbid - But If We Lose...

[SudieJD]

Do you plan to:

1. Revolt - Civil War
2. Move To Another County - If So, Which?
3. Change To A "3rd" party
4. Nothing


Sudie in MN

[melody]

1. start pressing for California secession

It'll be time to Constitutionally secede then, imho.

[Misunderestimator]

5. Please wait until I move out there... then go for it!

[utopian]

14. Hey, you need to take Oregon and Washington with you

We'll call it Ecotopia.

[bacchant]

24. No way, the first thing they do is declare war and nuke us into oblivion.

[camero]

35. Do you plan to recall Ahnold too?

Without that seccession won't go anywhere.

[Snotcicles]

37. The Middle East will look like a play ground n/t

[robmc88]

61. Not with Ahnold as President though....

I am in So Cal and cant stand him, what a cock knocker.

[indigobusiness]

2. We are not welcome anywhere...now.

Antarctica, maybe?

on edit- Civil war is not an impossibility.

Real peace is possible only if Kerry wins...and then it will be a long-shot.

[lindashaw]

3. We have a farm besides where we live, which is in a small town.

We went ahead and paid for it, and if Bush is reelected, we plan to move out into the country and get as independent of "things" as we can. We have friends who are thinking of moving to Germany. This is so awful!

[DulceDecorum]

4. Abolish the federal government.

After all,
What have they done for us lately?

Stop sending them money.

[Cyrix]

59. Are you for real??

The federal government is the only thing stopping all out fascist control of the red states. These people don't believe in democracy. Many red states would turn in to theocratic fascist dictatorships. And once they gain complete control (along with nukes) they'll start looking at the blue regions...

[kendric]

62. The constitution protects

Want to help stop fascism from happening? Use your 2nd amendment rights, get guns, lots of 'em. The 2nd is there for a reason.

[Hoffnung]

64. and fight who?

Your sister?

Your neighbor?

You best friend?

Some Innocent father or god forbid his kid?

Who?

I thought we democrats were more pacifist that this well at least the people I know are.

[CosmicVortex21]

68. Ask the gang at Ruby Ridge how usefull their 2nd amendment rights were...

Of course any resistance to the fed will get the same results. Nonone here is going to be having any armed resistance. Their just talking smack - anyone stupid enough to raise arms against the US army would be dead in short order.

[getoffmytrain]

66. Best idea

anyone has had since 1776.

[Deja Q]

6. I wait sit back and watch and listen who does what.

I'm a listener, I like to listen. I prefer to observe and comment on it. I can do no more. Or less.

[freetobegay]

7. First off it will depend on how we lose.

I love America so number #2 will ver happen for me. #1 only if it's stolen, I am happy being a Democrat #3 is a non issue for me. #4 is NEVER a choice I will accept.

[katinmn]

8. thought about it

If they stole the election again, I would stay and fight.

But if it turned out the true majority wanted BushCo, I would seek refuge in Canada, Sweden or Norway. Not a snowball's chance that is the case, though.

But that's NOT going to happen. Kerry's going to win because we are continuing to work hard and see to it.

[katinmn]

9. PS Hi neighbor

:hi:

[SudieJD]

13. Katinmn!

You in Mintasota??? I'm an "Up Northerner"! Up here, deep in the woods of the Chippewa! Nice to see ya here!

Sudie in MN

[katinmn]

55. Yah! From up up north too

Originally a Ranger from Ely. Still a Minnesota Redneck.

[cali]

10. None of the above

I intend to keep fighting the good fight. In my opinion, there is a very real possibility that bush will remain as President. I will continue to rely on my Congressional delegation- Leahy, Jeffords and Sanders, and the delegations of other sane states to do what they can to oppose this administration.

[UrbScotty]

11. Kerry on.

On to 2006 and 2008, I'd say.

Repubs won't make me leave my country or my party.

[Cyrano]

12. Think positive. We're going to win so big that

George Bush will think he was gang raped in a Turkish prison.

[tanyev]

15. no, No, NO!

No talk about losing now. Too much to do. If the outcome is contested, even more to do. If, after all that, things still look bad, then there will be plenty of time to discuss what happens next.

[fear the donkey]

16. #5

Just make sure our voices continue to echo throughout the world. They can't take away our voices, no matter what kind of laws they pass, no matter how hard they try. Should the day end in darkness we will still be united.

[newyawker99]

25. Hi fear the donkey!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Neshanic]

17. The impeachment will proceed, and he will be out by Aug 2006.

There are many career government officials who will be more than happy to supply an endless stream of the misdeeds of Monkey, but who were too afraid in the first term. When they see their own careers and everything they worked for being threatened by a full bore push to complete a Fundamentalist/Theocracy/Robber Barron government, the dam will not hold.

Leaks, leaks everywhere. Look for him to be scampering to a helicopter in the summer of 2006.

[Keirsey]

18. freeway blogging

The worst...

God forbid that it would happen.

While on the freeway today, I was checking out places to spraypaint in very large letters...

IMPEACH BUSH

[giant_robot]

63. I agree

Remember, Nixon resigned during his second term, and Bush has pissed off a lot more people than Nixon, and a lot of them are in the State Department, CIA, and Pentagon. I think this, combined with the growing rift in the republican party between the christian extreme right and the conservative-libertarian wing could get enough votes in the house for impeachment. Just my $.02, for what it's worth.

[maxsolomon]

19. i will look into leaving (england, cyprus, canada), but probably stay

if bush wins, i will buy, and learn to use, a very very large gun. and plenty of ammo.

by 2008 this country will have had their fill of Kill & Drill, and howard dean will be president. a draft, dead sons, & $3/gallon heating oil will make bush supporters rue the day they let god guns & fetuses tell them how to vote.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

20. I'll wait and see what happens.

[VOX]

21. Not going to lose.

That's my mind-set right now. We are **not** going to lose.

[Cleita]

22. I think the whole nation should secede from DC.

Leave Bush behind as President of Capitol Hill and let the rest of us frame a new Constitution and a new PNAC free government.

[Redleg]

23. There are more than those 4 choices.

Like "become more active in the Dem party." Or "work to change the presidential and congressional campaign and election system."

[UNIXcock]

60. Voice of reason spoken ...

... here. Stay active but remain civil, that's what sets us apart from heathens.

[w4rma]

26. Bush will be impeached like Nixon was if we lose. Exactly like Nixon.

But unlike the 2002 elections, my gut feeling is that Sen. Kerry is going to win and we won't have to impeach.

[Keirsey]

27. Why not impeach?

Is a lame duck president* immune from impeachment?

[demothinker]

28. Small correction...Nixon wasn't impeached

He resigned before he could be impeached because he knew it was inevitable. Andrew Johnson and Clinton are the only presidents to be impeached.

[AntiFascist]

29. It may be a win-win situation in the long run....

If Bush stays in office his continuing foreign policy is likely to fail miserably, America will become even more ostracized in the world, and America will become even more divided than ever before. In the long run, this could irreparably harm the Republican party for decades to come. Bush can step down now and leave the office in peace, or, if he stays in office, will have to face charges of international war crimes and, probably, impeachment.

[Selatius]

33. Secretly, I wonder if this scenario will make leftists even stronger

Bush winning a second time will all but guarantee that there will be grassroots mobilization. We could actually see the beginnings of the first mass opposition movement since the 1960s. With that many people in the streets, we could apply sufficient pressure not only upon Republicans but also Democrats who have become too cozy with corporate/special interests.

[Sinnerman]

30. Kerry Landslide 360EV's+

[Dangerman]

31. 1 or 2

[taquinas101]

32. Fondly Recall The Days Before Facism In America . . .

[mitchum]

34. A good time for a REVOLUTION is when the army is somewhere else

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[SudieJD]

40. I'm A Gun Person...

I have a "Winchester 24" patch to prove it. And, since I live in the woods, I keep my magnum close by.

Not all dems. with guns are NRA member either. I've never been.

Sudie in MN

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[mitchum]

45. FUCK YOU, FREEPER DISRUPTOR

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[mitchum]

49. Just be patient, little boy (don't carry your premature problem...

into all aspects of your life)

[Tsiyu]

53. Isn't it hilarious how deluded

Righties are? Like only Repukes have weapons? As long as they keep drinking that Koolaid, we are in real good shape....

[6th Borough]

44. There are plenty of responsible,gun owning Dems. We aren't 1-issue voters.

EOM

[mitchum]

46. We'll see about that, little boot-licking brownshirt

enjoy your (DU) tombstone

[AIJ Alom]

52. The INSECURE need guns. God gave me FISTS. eom.

[6th Borough]

54. God gave ME an opposable thumb.

:evilgrin:

[getoffmytrain]

67. For your own

safety, don't ever take your fists to a gun fight... you'll lose miserably.

[SudieJD]

36. I'll Never Leave..

This country. I'll stick around and fight, which ever way that I can. I've looked over the 3rd parties and am still looking at them. The election is not set in stone.

In 2000, the first night of the election fraud, I thought it was "in the bag" for Gore. I believed that right up until the SC made the ass the President of our home.

I'm not taking anything for granted this time. I'll not be fooled again.

Sudie in MN

[greyfox]

39. Green Party

I may change to the Green Party.. I like their stuff and it has to happen someday! But, hey, the Repubs kept after poor Clinton until they got him impeached... for me, I will keep on working with
http://www.votetoimpeach.com
and hitting at the resident every day for 4 more!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. this thread ain't nothing but shit (nt)

[6th Borough]

42. #1-I'll move to Key West from Ft. Lauderdale. 2#...

Incite the locals into declaring themselves an independent "The Conch Republic" like they did in 1980.

[reprobate]

48. I believe Kerry will win, but I will still fight.

Even tho Kerry will be the president, there is no way in hell that he can make the changes that need to be made as long as the congress is in the hands of their Corporate Masters.

There are several things that must be done and I think the most important are to reinstate the fairness doctrine and to take the profit out of politics, IOW to make campiagn financing completely from public funds. Make giving money to any politician a 1st class felony.

Joe Tripey on Moyers show last night talked about fighting to take the democrat party out of the hands of the power structure and make it responsive to the people once again, and if that doesnt work start a third party of the people. I agree and will fight with him.

[vinnievin777]

50. uh

We suffer through another four years. But we will win.

Vinnie Vin
http://www.vinnievin.com

[AIJ Alom]

51. Kerry in a LANDSLIDE ! GOTV !!! Make it so !!!! Turnout !!!

I live in NJ and have not had the opportunity to vote early. But as soon as the polls open at 6 am, I will vote and then I will get others to vote. Everyone else reading this thread do the same ! We're winning this one outright !!!!

[Burma Jones]

56. Welllllllll...............

1. If the vote is blatantly stolen, there will be huge economic repurcussions and Chimpy's Masters will not let that happen. If the vote is surreptiously (Freeps, look it up) stolen, I believe that economic boycotts and slowdowns are in order. This country is fueled by money, it's our true National Religion, and it's our saving grace. We already have a Civil War of sorts anyway and it will screw up the Republicans. If the Chimp wins fair and square (although it may already be too late for that to some folks) then I will think about.....

2. Moving to the UK or Australia or New Zealand.


3. Win or lose, the Republicans are due for a schism. The Religious Fanatics will demand real action on their agenda, not just words. The Libertarian and moderate wings of the Republicans will fight this tooth and nail. I am tempted to join the Republicans in this scenario because my most despised enemies are fundies and I would relish nothing more than turning them into the Reform Party of the 21st Century, big enough to whack Republicans, but not big enough to win a single seat in Congress.


4. Ha, we had better not do nothing.

[porphyrian]

57. It won't happen.

We outnumber them four to one at the polls. They can't cheat enough to pull it off.

[greyfox]

69. From....

your keyboard to God's ears!

[Lori Price CLG]

58. 1. Revolt - Civil War, and to any Freeper lurkers:

I am looking forward to it...

Cheers,
Lori Price
http://www.legitgov.org/

[CosmicVortex21]

65. Here comes the tin foil gang...

As an anarchist, I can safely say welcome to the Ruby Ridge mentality...

You guys stand about as much chance of taking over the federal government as you do of getting out of front of the TV and missing that episode of Fear Factor.

Mind, you. I wouldnt cry a bit to see anyone do it, but your singing the same song as half the righty wackos and they havent made a dent in the govt yet - so I have little hope that your going to accomplish jack.