Friends!! I am talking to a group of undecideds tonight...

[slor]

I need links to articles I can print...
I would prefer documents that explain Kerry's $87 billion vote, and also info on the chimp's environment disasters. I am at work, so I will be unable to do it myself, and I want to say thanks to anyone that can help!

[Jack_Dawson]

1. You're talking to BOTH of them?

How'd you pull that off?

[Maat]

4. Please do me a favor, and point that Kerry:

1. doesn't have close familial connections with the Binladen family and Prince Bandar, and doesn't have holdings in the Carlyle private equity firm.

2. John Kerry is the one who can keep us safe from terrorists because he doesn't ignore critical PDB's or take his eye off of the ball to play conqueror/occupier.

3. John Kerry will be the one in the capacity as chief executive, not his advisors, nor his vice president.

4. John Kerry isn't an unbelievable panderer and hypocrite, actually going to his faith's services every week - but, critically, he does not force his personal values upon those governed.

5. John Kerry does not viciously out CIA operatives because he is mad at what their spouse said.

6. John Kerry does not crush international family planning efforts just because he wants to pander to leaders of the religious right.

7. John Kerry does not engage in hate and discrimination because of his personal spirtiual/religious beliefs, using the Constitution to force such hatred upon the rest of us.

8. John Kerry will see that everyone gets heathcare coverage.

9. John Kerry is not about giving tax cuts that result in more money being handed over to the richest 1% of Americans.

[deadparrot]

2. RFK Jr., article on bad environmental policy

long, but good.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1120-01.htm

[noamnety]

3. I have a lot of info here

http://ideamouth.com/respect.htm

including links to the issues (includes a link to environmental issues): http://ideamouth.com/respect.htm#Issues

and some background on the $87 billion vote: http://ideamouth.com/respect.htm#87billion

It's all one long page, so you'd want to copy/paste the parts you want to a word document or something before printing - otherwise you'll get all 28 pages.

also, take a look at the link on the left menu to the appointments/disappointments - some of that might be useful as well.

[nycmjkfan]

6. Some more background on the $87 billion

from last night's 60 Minutes.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/31/60minutes/main652491.shtml


It was a pork festival, and they are still not well equipped.

[Dems Will Win]

5. The best thing to say to them:

The Repubs voted against the $87 billion first because they opposed the Dem version to have the $20 billion in reconstruction money be a loan paid back from the Iraq oil money Bush cronies eventually stole ($11 billion spent with no AUDIT TRAIL!).

The criticism of Kerry for not voting for the REpub version in which the $20 bil was a grant and included no-bid contracts for Halliburton is merely to make up for the lack of body armor and armored vehicles that make our soldiers literal sitting ducks (see 60 Minutes last night).

If they have porfessional, medical or really any kind of skill (even computer user or clerk) they could be drafted in the upcoming Bush Skills and Medical Drafts.

Over 1400 occupations are eligible men and women 18-34 and 44 for the Med Draft. Nurses, doctors, specialists, linguists, truck drivers, clerks, musicians, programmers, engineers go first and everybody else second. This is a certainty as reported by me over the weekend from the Seattle Post Intelligencer story on Rummy lying on the Draft.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/197438_pot30.html

What jobs do they or their family have? Post that here and I can tell you the likelihood of their being drafted and the code number for their job.

I'll leave it to others but yoiu could say the list is too long. It's not what Bush has done FOR the environment, but what he has done TO the environment. RFK Jr. " Crimes against Nature" sums it all up.

show them this:

http://blatanttruth.org/draft.php



PRINT FLYER: http://blatanttruth.org/mddraft.pdf

[Pirate Smile]

7. Here is one that hits them personally:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041101/pl_nm/energy_prices_election_dc
Kerry Presidency Could Mean Cheaper Oil

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oil may cost as much as 10 percent less next year if U.S. Democratic challenger Senator John Kerry (news - web sites) defeats President Bush (news - web sites) in Tuesday's election, some energy analysts said on Monday.
-snip-
On Monday, a day ahead of the election, oil prices recoiled more than two dollars to dip below $50. PFC predicts an average oil price of $43 a barrel in 2005 if Kerry wins, compared with $48 if Bush is reelected.

[Corgigal]

8. just tell them

they are morons and VOTE BUSH.

[wildflower]

9. Here's one I saw on the 87 billion...

http://pnews.org/vortal/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=54

I'll look around some more.

-wildflower

[IdaBriggs]

10. Go To www.invisibleida.com for A TON of information.

1) 9/11 & OUR SAFETY: Prior to 9/11 George W. Bush dismantled our existing anti-terrorism systems (http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RL30938.pdf - pg 6), ignored warnings of impending terrorist attacks (http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf, http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2002/05/wh051602.html, http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing8/staff_statement_8.pdf - pgs 9-10), and tried to cut the FBI counter-terrorism budget by $65 Million (12%) (http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/FY03ASHCROFT.PDF).

2) ABORTION: George W. Bush does not believe abortion laws should contain excepts for the life or health of the mother (http://debates.org/pages/trans2004c.html), which means 2% of all pregnancies, being ectopic, become automatic death sentences (http://my.webmd.com/hw/being_pregnant/hw144923.asp). Also, abortions have INCREASED during George W. Bush’s tenure as President (http://sev.prnewswire.com/magazines/20041013/DCW06813102004-1.html).

3) UNDERCOVER INTELLIGENCE: George W. Bush's administration has publicly identified two undercover CIA operatives (which is considered treason), one a specialist in “weapons of mass destruction” (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20030714.shtml, http://www.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/views03/1010-12.htm) and the other an Al-Qaeda mole (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/08/10/leak_of_qaeda_suspect_name_criticized/), but George W. Bush doesn’t know which of his “trusted advisors” did it, so no one has been fired. But George W. Bush has testified (with the help of a personal criminal attorney (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0B11FB3E550C708CDDAF0894DC404482)) in front of a Grand Jury on the subject.

4) CAMPAIGN SMEARS: George W. Bush's campaign has participated in one of the worst smears ever perpetuated in presidential politics by trying to paint a decorated combat veteran as a “traitorous communist” – Ken Cordier, “Veterans for Bush” (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/21/edwards.swiftboat/index.html); Benjamin Ginsber, Campaign Lawyer (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/25/ginsberg.swiftboat/index.html, http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_08/004571.php); Robert Perry / Karl Rove, Financial Contributions (http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df08252004.html); Admiral William Schacht, $40 Million Man (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/227267p-195132c.html, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47542-2004Aug30.html); All Ties to Bush/Cheney Campaign (http://nytimes.com/imagepages/2004/08/19/politics/campaign/20040820_SWIFT_GRAPH.html); and POW “Stars” & Their Public Lies (http://www.invisibleida.com/#Suffering%20POWs, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5962170/) -- who apparently escaped detection while publicly testifying “war is bad” (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0438/turse.php) before Congress on national television and having been a public figure for the last thirty-five years.

5) DEFICITS: George W. Bush has wracked up record setting deficits (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041014/ts_nm/economy_budget_dc_4) and raided the social security trust to pay for it (http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=4985&sequence=2).

6) KEEPING US SAFE: George W. Bush keeps confusing “spending money” (which goes to his corporate cronies and Washington lobbyists) with “making America safer” when 95% of the containers coming into this country still aren’t being inspected (http://www.house.gov/hsc/democrats/dem_plan_030905.pdf - pg 4), 8000+ illegal aliens are crossing the borders daily (http://debates.org/pages/trans2004d.html), an airline “do not fly list” targets musicians and politicians instead of terrorists (http://www.house.gov/hsc/democrats/dem_plan_030905.pdf - pg 3, http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/0/545804498FEAC1D080256F3800599191!opendocument), and a huge chunk of our National Guard and Military Reserves are currently overseas (http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/opedstory1019WIRAQLETS.html).

7) OUR TROOPS: George W. Bush threatened to VETO a supplemental spending bill for the Troops in Iraq (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100777,00.html) unless it was "a gift to Iraq" and included a $27 BILLION “slush fund” for Halliburton. George W. Bush has cut services for veterans (http://www.invisibleida.com/#Cut%20Services%20for%20Veterans), left National Guard and Military Reserve families with no access to insured health care (http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/local/10036787.htm), and presided over the largest loss of military personnel since the Vietnam War (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm).

8) IRAQ: George W. Bush was wrong about Iraq being an imminent threat; they had no weapons of mass destruction (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-02-un-wmd_x.htm), and were unable to prove it (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-02-04-saddam-interview_x.htm) because of corruption within the “Oil for Food” program (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6214647/site/newsweek/). They had refused to support Al-Qaeda and had nothing to do with September 11, 2001 (http://us.oneworld.net/article/view/96543/1/3319, http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm - Sec 10.3). And the "mass graves" were debunked by Tony Blair (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1263830,00.html ) (the English Prime Minister).

9) ENVIRONMENT & PUBLIC HEALTH: George W. Bush's environmental record is best described as “disastrous” (http://www.sierraclub.com/sierra/200409/sins.asp) and global climate change (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/30/science/earth/30arctic.html?oref=login) is getting worse. Meanwhile, what he’s done to the meat inspectors at the USDA (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0102-06.htm, http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0723-02.htm) is nearly unbelievable. (At least five people in New Jersey are dead from “mad cow” (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/28/earlyshow/contributors/melindamurphy/main614154.shtml) as of this writing, while deadly e-coli and listeria outbreaks are on the rise (http://www.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/views03/1222-11.htm, http://my.webmd.com/content/article/50/40445.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}) due to the “new rules” regarding fecal matter on meat.)

10) IN GENERAL: George W. Bush has been unable to capture Osama bin Laden in three years (who is still making videos) (http://slate.msn.com/id/2108921/), despite a world wide manhunt and “doesn’t think about him much anymore” (press conference from Feb? 2004). George W. Bush will not admit to errors or mistakes (press conference Feb? 2004, 2nd Presidential Debate). George W. Bush really believes everything in Iraq is going well (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6090706/). George W. Bush allowed AK-47s back on our streets (http://www.invisibleida.com/#AK-47s), didn’t fund the 100,000 COPS program (http://www.invisibleida.com/#COPS%20Program), and hasn't done anything to fix the rising cost of healthcare (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a0.U_8eEIUf8&refer=us). He’s either a nice guy who isn’t in touch with reality, or he’s a self-serving liar, neither of which makes a good president, but all of this is beside the point because he needs everyone to ignore reality so he can get re-elected!


More Useful Information

100 Facts and 1 Opinion: The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=facts
"People of Faith for Kerry": http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/Other+News/2004102830
Republicans for Kerry: http://www.republicansforkerry.org/
Repent Nader Voters: http://www.repentantnadervoter.com/
President Bush: Flip-Flopper In Chief: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263
"Forget Bush: Its His Supporting Cast that REALLY Deserves the Boot": http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17635
The Document Sean Hannity Doesn't Want You To Read: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/september2004/230904seanhannity.htm
VotingCatholic.org: http://www.votingcatholic.org/
26 Free Videos Online: http://www.independentmediasource.com/video.htm

[MostlyLurks]

11. Re: the 87 Billion

Thought you might find this helpful:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100777,00.html

According to this memo, Bush was ready to veto the very same $87 billion spending package that he's hitting Kerry for voting against. The memo's posted on the Fox News site, therefore even a neocon will have to admit it MUST BE TRUE! And it was written by the White House itself - Joshua Bolten is the director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

The amendment about VA spending that would have lead Bush to his veto was proposed by Chris Bond, a REPUBLICAN from Missouri: http://www.bva.org/aut03bulletin/l_update.html

Bush was willing to de-fund the troops over a spending provision inserted by a member of his own party.

Mostly

[wildflower]

12. From the Sierra Club on his environmental record...

Check out these articles:

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200409/

[Qutzupalotl]

13. BCCI

Kerry exposed this international money laundering and terrorist financing ring while Dubya was still doing business with them.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html

[BamaBecky]

14. 3 good articles - Bush family crime-PNAC Players-Kerry/BCCI

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/downloads.htm

They are both under the document column

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.sirota.html
very good article on how Kerry helped put BCCI out of business

[Skittles]

15. you will probably need to help them all get dressed, slor

:7

[slor]

16. LOL after seeing some of them...

that would be a struggle indeed!