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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:32 PM
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EVERYBODY should watch this video (re: PNAC)
http://www.knife-party.net/flash/barry.html

This is hard hitting and demonstrates why the rest of the world resents us.
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Bark Bark Bark Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:35 PM
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1. It's Also Available At AtomFilms
...where you can read the hysterical reviews from neo-con sheeple. You know, just to lighten things up afterwards.

It's a great little film.
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Hoffnung Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:36 PM
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2. Direct Link
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MattG Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:57 PM
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4. The Right Wing reviews
may not all be from right wingers, perhaps moderate liberals, like myself. I agree that what Bush, Cheney, and company have done over the past four years are absolutely terrible, however, I still am not going to say that the attacks of Sept. 11th were justified, which is kind of what this film is saying. Not only that, but Iran and North Korea actually do have WMDs, unlike a little country called Iraq.
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Hoffnung Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:59 PM
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6. I did disagree with alot of things that they said too
this film seems like propaganda in some respects.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:09 PM
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9. Meine eigene Hoffnung
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 06:16 PM by Karenina
is that you and MattG actually READ the PNAC document at
http://newamericancentury.org "Rebuilding America's Defenses" could be a good place to start. Then, if you can handle it, break open Zbignew Brzezinki's, "The Grand Chess Game"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465027261/qid%3D1078792337/sr%3D2-2/ref%3Dsr%5F2%5F2/104-3140387-6503106

Propaganda is what you both have fed. It makes "Super Size Me" a mere joke by comparison. EVERY SENTENCE in that video conveys a TRUTH that the ROTW CLEARLY RECOGNIZES.

I went to a Markus Stockhausen concert tonight. One of the collonades in the church was CLEARLY bomb damaged. It had a plaque affixed to it that said (loosely translated) "A warning to the living" October 1944. I fought back tears as I asked the man behind me about the grammatical construction, wondering if I'd missed something between the words. He laughed and responded in Englisch explaining the archaic grammar, then THANKED ME for my attention to detail.

Americans somehow think the WTC was "the event." In the bigger scheme of things it's barely a blip. I say it as one who watched the Twin Towers being built. I KNOW how hard it is for you to hear such a statement but until you clearly realize what sort of entity has taken over your gub'mint, we're ALL in DEEP SHIT.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:36 AM
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11. The National Security State Controlled US Government and their
Corporate owned Media have created for us a very homey little reality bubble where we needn't worry about anything so long as we never ask questions such as how is it that WE manage to live in the 'wealthiest nation on Earth'.
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rot0r_head Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:37 AM
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14. I've been saying for so long
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 03:37 AM by rot0r_head
that the REAL web site for the White House is here.

They don't even bother to hide their motives from anyone who's interested, but really, this makes sense. Anyone who's brainwashed by their lies would either never read it or shrug off such a revelation as "left wing fearmongering." And if their plans continue, anyone who disagrees with their management will have no real voice anyhow.



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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:22 AM
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13. Propaganda?
I thought that video wasn't hard-hitting enough. PNAC is one of the greatest dangers to face this country and this world in a very long time.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:04 AM
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12. Mohammed Atta ate pork chops, snorted coke, had a
stripper girl friend and already knew how to fly before he started taking flying lessons at a CIA run flight school. General Mahmoud Ahmad, the chief of the Pakistani ISI (CIA) who wired Atta $100,000, was having breakfast with Senator Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees. Meanwhile, VP Cheney who, along with Donald Rumsfeld, had been chosen by President Reagan to head two top secret teams of government secession that, through war games strategies, established in-flight high-level super secure communications systems with the higest levels of military authoirty, was in charge in the White House Situation Room. Moreover, in may of 2001, the chain of command authority for dealing with hijack or errant commercial air trafic had been re-routed away from local command through the office of the Secretary of Defense. On the morning of 9/11 there were at least three different war-game scenarios unfolding at least two of which simulating hijacked commercial airliners, complete with bogey blips on FAA radar during the first collisions.

No, the attacks of 9/11 weren't "justified." They were a covert "black" operation orchestrated from within the deepest levels of the Corporate ruled National Security State. 12 TRILLION dollars worth of oil and natural gas is now safely in the hands of Wall Street.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:37 AM
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15. The 9/11 attacks could never be considered to be justifiable....
but the point that the film makes is that 9/11 was one response to PNAC, which is highly plausible.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:55 PM
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3. Brilliant animation; well done.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:57 PM
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5. Could you give a title for those of us who can't watch online?
Thanks.

Kanary
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:02 PM
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7. "None of us really matter to them"
Power little video, very depressing. And exactly what I've heard from my foreign friends and family. We are so isolated from the rest of the world, I don't envy Kerry his job.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 04:09 PM
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8. Yesterday, China signed one of the largest deals for oil and natural gas
with Iran.At the signing ceremony, China totally rejected one of the basic ideas of the PNAC, i.e. American Global Hegemony.The deal with Iran should be looked at as a warning shot that any attempt to deny China the vital resources it needs, as the PNAC wants to do, will result in war against an emerging superpower.China also said at that same ceremony that it rejects the socalled Bush Doctrine that the U.S. will reserve the right to attack any nation that it considers a threat.

We are being ruled by lunatics who have picked a fight not just with Muslims everywhere but also with the world's most populous nation with probably the fastest growing economy.Crazy is the only word that comes to mind.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:50 AM
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16. Since reading that China has increased
it's oil imports by 35% just last year, this has played into my theory of why we were in Iraq. Many people want to deny it is about oil but China is just another piece of this puzzle.

Not only are they probably the world's most populous nation with the fastest growing economy, they aren't too shabbily armed either, I'd guess.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 02:09 AM
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10. kick
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:09 AM
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17. thanks for kicking
I hadn't seen this thread before, so hadn't seen the video.
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