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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:05 PM
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stupid question, what is this about bush not having 50%
Kerry doesn't have 50 either. not flaming or anything like that just trying to understand.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:06 PM
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1. Generally undecided voters break strongly for the challenger
so the idea is that an incumbent won't ever get a higher vote margin than their final poll.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:07 PM
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3. ok, thanks
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:07 PM
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2. Bush is under 50% job approval rating.
No incumbent has won re-election while below 50%.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:08 PM
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7. No incumbent ever in the history of the US? if so, that's great
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 06:09 PM by democrat in Tallahas
edited from inbumbent, but in this case, imbumbent might be better. maybe i was thinking incumbent bumbler
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:07 PM
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4. an incumbent, war-time prez (sic)
under 50% is toast, if not bread crumbs. and that goes for approval (he's under 50%) and PV (he's under 50%)
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:07 PM
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5. Undecideds break to the challenger.
If the incumbent is under 50%, generally he is fucked.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:07 PM
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6. an incumbant polling
below 50% on election day almost never wins re-election. Those who are undecided on election day almost always overwhelmingly support the challenger.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:08 PM
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9. AND..... 10 MILLION newly registered voters....
the majority will break for Kerry.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:08 PM
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8. The idea is this ....
IF the incumbent does not enjoy over 50% support, then there is a strong likelihood that those who are undecided will NOT support that incumbent .... and that the challenger will get their vote ...

Its a strong argument, but not a guarantee ...
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:08 PM
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10. the common wisdom is
that the incumbent is known to the electorate, and if people haven't determined to vote for him/her before the election he will not get their vote. Consequently, the undecided voter will make a lat minute decision for the challenger.

--IMM
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:09 PM
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11. When the incumbent is polling less than 50% this close to the election...
then it's a sure sign that he/she won't be re-elected. Apparently undecided voters tend to break for the challenger at the last minute. I don't know why (then again, I can't understand being undecided at this point) but that's what all the mouthpieces on the network news channels are saying.

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