82% of our armed forces don't want Kerry?

[bbernardini]

Check out the post numbers if you think I'm a troll. Somebody on the "Taste of Home" message board of all places threw this number out there. Supposedly came from an Army Times poll. Anybody heard about this one? Seems pretty ridiculous to me.

[Davion]

1. Link?

[TimeToGo]

7. I think this is the one we discussed earlier

It was a non-scientific mail in from officers.

Am I remember that right?

[Davion]

12. I've had enough closeted officers toknow you are probably right

Sorry hehe

[SaveElmer]

2. If I'm not mistaken

That was a poll of primarily Officers...In that group that number would not surprise me!

[trotsky]

8. If you and I both remember it, SaveElmer, it must be true!

:)

[knowbody0]

they want to eat and need bullets

george is their boss. free speech not in their best interest.
my friend in iraq has lost 40 pounds in eight months - 2 meals a day, rationed water.

[SaveElmer]

3. If I'm not mistaken

That was a poll of primarily Officers...In that group that number would not surprise me!

[trotsky]

4. There was a poll a few months ago I remember

and the figure was something like that. Two things to consider:

1) I believe the poll was mainly of retired officers here in the US. They obviously have a different perspective than troops in the field or waiting to be deployed.

2) The Repuke candidate typically carries this group by 90%+, so even if the 82% is true, that represents a significant gain for Kerry.

Personally, I think it's BS.

[leetrisck]

5. Yawn! Probably 82% didn't want bush

either - they all would just like to come home.

[featherman]

6. This has been around for a while

A very small sample from primarily officer corps and strangely selected. Propaganda...disregard

[babylonsister]

9. From Army Times

Bush leads Democratic Sen. John Kerry 73 percent to 18 percent in the voluntary survey of 4,165 active-duty, National Guard and reserve subscribers to Army Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times and Air Force Times.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-383722.php

[NMDemDist2]

10. Army time poll....... less than 10% responded and most that did were

senior or older military types.

bogus all the way

To conduct the survey, Military Times e-mailed more than 31,000 subscribers Sept. 15. They were invited to access an Internet site seeking their opinions on the presidential race and related issues. From Sept. 21 to 28, and before the first presidential debate on Sept. 30, a total of 2,754 active-duty and 1,411 reserve and Guard members took part.

The nature of the survey led experts to caution against reading the results as representative of the military as a whole.

Unlike most public opinion polls, the Military Times survey did not randomly select those to question. Instead, subscribers with e-mail addresses on file were sent an invitation. That means there is no statistical margin of error for the survey — so it’s impossible to calculate how accurately the results reflect the views of Military Times readers.

The surveyed group is older, higher in rank and more career-oriented than the military as a whole. Junior enlisted troops in particular are underrepresented in the group that responded.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-383722.php

[hlthe2b]

11. Considering the military enlisted had no secret ballots...

but had to vote using the military private contractor(--who, of course had free communication with their predominantly Repug chain of command), and that Rumsfeld and others sat groups of troops down to discuss what THEY SHOULD VOTE for Bush*... and whatever other arm-twisting, this could be conceivable. But, I strongly suspect small numbers of respondents and probably nearly all officers.

[Ivote]

19. I really am not worried about that number

Military for the most part usually support the president no matter who it is. Whats telling is that the number should be at least 95% from active duty. The real number that I see that Kerry is getting from retired military since they are the ones that can speak out freely without any consequences.
Support our troops Vote Kerry

[dogman]

13. King threw this stat at Rangel on Crossfire today.

As pointed out another ridiculous stat that the Rethugs throw around without followup by the lazy press.

[NVMojo]

14. all my Army and other military pals are voting Kerry cuz

they said they knew they were being used by the Bushcore.

[dogman]

18. My sons bro-in-law is in Iraq in the NG and wants B$$$ out.

I guess I could therefore say 100% of the National Guard I have polled are for Kerry. The GOP propaganda runs non-stop.

[Rainbowreflect]

15. Bull, my friend that is recently back from Iraq would disagree.

He said of the troops on the ground it's more like 85% against bush.

[Sara Beverley]

16. This is really sad. So many of them only know what they are spoon fed

by the military brass. It really is up to their families to give them the facts. But I guess they wouldn't be in the military if they didn't also glorify war.

[fleetus]

17. A flawed survey, widely reported.

I've heard the results of this survey reported too often.

Although the split is likely more balanced, I would concede that more people in the military will vote for Bush than Kerry. It will take a while for that to change. But Bush's support has definitely dropped in the last 4 years.

[Vickers]

20. Maybe among officers

But there are about 40 enlisted for every officer, and they get smaller Kool Aid rations.

[UL_Approved]

21. I posted this before, and its bullshit

The actual poll was published by Newsweek. The figures had about one out of seven people respond who were e-mailed for the survey, and about 77% of those who responded said they were pro-Bush. That means that less than 10% of the people who were e-mailed said they supported Bush, but they spun the hell out of the results anyway. Read the fine print.

[Algorem]

22. Heard today it'd illegal to poll active military,on Talk of Nation I think

[mtnsnake]

23. There's probably incredible pressure in the military that if you don't

vote for Chimpy, you're not being patriotic or loyal to the quack in chief during a time of war. That and freaking Rush is on the airwaves in Iraq 24/7 from what I've heard. Who knows.

Anyway, I highly doubt that the polls for bush are that high. 65-35 I would believe, or 60-40, but not 82-18. No friggin way. I've heard too many stories from families of those serving in Iraq to think support for bush is that high. Sheer propaganda that poll.

[tsuki]

24. Speaking as a military brat...

you are careful, oh so careful, to express your honest choice in the military. If your commander if for, well, so are you...not.

[bbernardini]

25. Wow, thanks!

Very much appreciated. I think a lot of the chickenhawks on that particular board are beyond help, but I can always try. :)