I just voted third party for President...

[IrateCitizen]

I live in NY, and I pulled the lever for the Working Families Party candidates. I also voted the WFP line for NY Senator as well. I feel so good about myself for furthering diversity in democracy rather than just settling on the "lesser of two evils". :bounce:



And before you all jump all over me, the WFP candidates in both instances are also the Democratic nominees. NY allows fusion tickets, which allow you to support the more progressive agenda of the WFP while not playing the "spoiler" role. :evilgrin:

[ProfessorGAC]

1. Not Exactly Climbing Out On A Limb, Are We Chris?

Just tweaking! Thought i was going to have to woodshed you when i read the title.
The Professor

[IrateCitizen]

7. Yeah, I figured everyone around here is pretty tweaked right now...

... and if there would be an easy time to mess with them, it would be now.

Maybe not the most judicious time to mess with them, but an opportune time nonetheless. ;-)

[ProfessorGAC]

9. Hey, A Vote For Kerry, Is A Vote For Kerry

If NY allows you to make a statement and still vote for the winner, good for you.
The Professor

[molly]

2. Proud of yourself?

[Robbie67]

13. did you read the post?

or simply post something reactionary on seeing the headline?

[soothsayer]

3. You'll see Kerry's not evil when he takes office Jan 20th. n/t

[ThomCat]

4. Me to: Go Working Families Party!

I love being able to vote for the dem candidate but still do it in a way that makes a progressive statement.

[H2O Man]

5. yep ....

that's my plan, also

[atre]

6. People, read more carefully before jumping all over the poster!!!

He/she voted for KERRY!

[IrateCitizen]

8. Shhhhh!

You're ruining my fun, atre! :evilgrin:

[ProfessorGAC]

10. I Think I Sort of Did, Too

The Professor

[soleft]

11. My Dem Congresswoman Debra Glick always asks people to vote

WFP Party line - which is usually always the Democratic Candidates.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. Fusion Voting Rules!

Wish we could do it in Montana

[Name removed]

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[IrateCitizen]

15. Was that supposed to be a criticism of my voting choice?

Or was it just a thinly veiled personal attack?

Not that I really care either way, just curious.

[Robbie67]

16. probably another non-reader

:shrug:

[IrateCitizen]

18. Nah, he and I have had our run-ins before...

And in case it wasn't clear enough, the purpose of my post was to get people's knickers in a knot. I'm wanting to see how many people unfamiliar with NY politics and the WFP actually read my post, or if they just post a knee-jerk response.

[molly]

19. I am obviously not familar

[IrateCitizen]

20. OK, I'll explain...

NY state allows political parties to cross-endorse candidates (fusion tickets). For instance, the Working Families Party is a party that promotes issues that affect working families above others. It tends to be much more progressive than the Democratic Party in NY, even if it usually endorses the Democratic candidate.

That way, you can vote for the Democratic candidate while simultaneously boosting the tally for the WFP, sending a message that you support progressive reform. :D

[molly]

21. Got it - THANKS and sorry!

:hug:

[H2O Man]

17. I'm glad you bring attention

to the options we have for progressive change. I'm proud of you. Anybody has a problem with it needs to take a few moments to consider the positive implications of your post. Thank you!

[sweetheart]

22. The fusion ballot should be ended

I amost screwed up my ballot by marking my "vote once" on the one
set of names i was voting for, that appeared in different columns.

If you colour in all the kerry/edwards ovals, you vote is void.

I think this is a flaw that throws out many ballots every year for
overvoting, when in fact, the vote is for the same party.

I respect your choice of WFP, but its a long reach between supporting
local party diversity and purposeful balloting obscurities.

[sangh0]

27. Are you in NY?

The machines in NYC are VERY clear and it's hard to make a mistake like that.

[sweetheart]

29. Yes, i sent the ballot to vesey street

The machines might be better, but the absentee ballot was ambiguous,
IMO.

I'm glad the machines make it easier. I still think there should
be no ambiguous listings of candidates, (fusion ticket), as it is
merely electoral partisan footsie, and only serves to obscure, when
parties have the same candidates for office. I would find it even
more offensive, if the bush was listed twice and kerry once, as
luck might land a vote more likely in the one who's name is
more repeated on the ballot. As it stands, they're both listed
twice, but then i'm miffed on behalf of those parties/candidates who
are only listed once.

My voting district is downtown, and the ballot is straight dem.

[sangh0]

30. Thanks for the response

I didn't understand that you were using an absentee ballot.

As a strong supporter of the two party system, I can sympathize with you. However, the WFP is doing an outstanding job, particularly for an organization that's only been around for a very few years. IMO, the WFP is doing what the Greens, Nader, and all the other third party enthusiasts should be doing, so I am reluctant to criticize them for that.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Fusion voting? Very cool!

------------------------------------------------
Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/

[sangh0]

24. I'm gonna vote third-party also

I'm voting for Kerry on the WFP line

[AngryOldDem]

25. That is very cool

Never heard of a "fusion ticket" before. Learn something new everyday, especially here.

[Laughing Mirror]

26. Socialist Workers Party candidates for pres on New York ballot

are not even legitimate: one is immigrant without papers to be in the US, the other is 24, too young to be president.

It is always so much fun to vote in New York, to pull back the curtain and read the names of unknown candidates you have never heard of and wonder how they got there. Like the candidate from the Libertarian party, and the candidate from the Builders party. What's the Builders Party? You've never heard of him, Abraham Hirschfield, but there he ison your ballot, running for president from the Builders Party, and you can turn the tab and vote for him too if you want.

New York is quirky like that.

[The_Counsel]

31. Anybody Notice...

...that Ralph Nader has TWO DIFFERENT RUNNING MATES on the New York Ballot? I'm not making this up! :-)

On the Independance line, the Veep nominee is Jan D. Pierce.

On the Peace & Justice line, the Veep nominee is Peter M. Camejo.

:wtf:

Is it me, or is this simply MORE proof that Mr. Nader is trying to confuse the system more than it already is....? :shrug:

[sweetheart]

33. I got a ballot copy in front of me...

And nader's independence and peace and justice VP is Peter Miguel Camejo.

For everyone's clarity, the fusion ballot looks like:
A. Republican - Bush/Cheney
B. Democratic - Kerry/Edwards
C. Independence - Nader/Camejo
D. Conservative - Bush/Cheney
E. Working Families - Kerry/Edwards
F. Peace and Justice - Nader/Camejo
G. Socialist Workers - Calero/Hawkins
H. Libertarian - Badnarik/Campagna
I. Write In

Notice how the same people are listed more than once... the ballot
should, IMO, have 5 choices, with 1 choice for each candidate, not
each party.

The Senator Race is even funnier, as Shumer is listed as democratic,
independence and working families, but everyone else is only listed
once.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

28. Too funny...and very cool!

[devilgrrl]

32. I'm proud of myself for reading your post first.

I usually just fly off the handle - you bad. :smoke:

[Carni]

34. WTF are you posting this for?

Like I give a rat's ass about this.

[IrateCitizen]

35. Like anyone held a gun to your head to read it or reply.

:eyes:

[ComerPerro]

36. ??????

I don't get it.

You apparently care enough to have replied...

[ulysses]

37. EEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLLLL!!!!!

Oh, wait...

:D

[mdmc]

38. you are destroying the Dem party

or is it that the Dem party needs to be destroyed?

Anywho, I vote wfp too (since David Cobb didn't make the ballot in NY)