nostamj
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:29 PM
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Republican Defections | THE story of this election? |
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we've all read dozens of anecdotal stories about republican family members, friends, co-workers who have admitted that they are going for Kerry this time... and for a wide range of reasons.
I believe that many many more will make that decision in the privacy of the voting booth and may NEVER admit that they voted AGAINST the chimp.
true conservatives, true republicans see little in bushco policies that reflect their beliefs.
the iraq invasion is an utter disaster in every way possible.
the working class 'base' is suffering.
some of these people may just be embarrassed to admit they were wrong and will continue to hold to their republican/conservative beliefs even though they knew in their hearts that bush was NOT the right man for them or their party.
I could be wrong but that's what I feel. the pollsters will be in maga-spin trying to explain how wrong they read the races.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:32 PM
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We may never know what percentage actually fit that catagory... but more than chimp would like to admit I am sure.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:49 PM
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2. Tweety said that 97% of republicans were voting for Smirk, |
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a higher percentage of loyalty than the Dem voters.
I have to question that. I know they are cult-like, at least his base is, but I'm having trouble getting my brain around the idea that the country club republicans would want to have anything to do with Smirk.
Will be interesting to see how this all turns out.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:53 PM
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4. I think the country clubbers are the most loyal to Bush |
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They got a huge tax cut, after all. It's the middle class and poor that he has to worry about.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:55 PM
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5. Matthews doesn't have a clue. He thinks B*sh won the debates, too. |
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I'm married to a diehard republican who could not cast a vote for Junior this election. Absolutely could not do it. Wrote-in a candidate, instead. Tweety is whistling up another tree, as usual.
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Tue Nov-02-04 03:48 PM
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19. I heard him say that too. As if. |
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They must have polled the people attending that Ralph Reed Christian Coalition rally.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:51 PM
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3. You're right. And many people will emulate those whom they respect |
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If they have doubts at all, and then a well-known, well-respected Republican (yeah, it's an oxymoron) gets out there and publicly villifies bush, the average-Joe Repub then sees it as a "permission slip" to vote for Kerry. Or at least, God willing, not vote for *.
It was Eliot Spitzer's endorsement of John Kerry that whipped my head around and made me take a good close look at Kerry and his record.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:44 PM
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7. that's what I tried with my repub parents... |
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didn't send ANY political stuff at all. no jokes, nothing.
but, a couple of weeks ago I sent them the Op-Ed from Eisenhower's son...
don't know if it worked, and, don't know if they'd admit it to me!
i really believe there's going to be a LOT of that happening today. and they'll leave angry and will hound Kerry from day one but will be secretly glad that a dem will be left to clean up the mess
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:01 PM
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A significant number of Republicans will desert the Chimp.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:50 PM
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8. Republicans working with Democrats to defeat * in Iowa |
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Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 01:53 PM by SleepingDragon
I'm a walker (knocking on doors and GOTV) in a heavily republican area of the Quad Cities (Davenport & Bettendorf, Iowa) working out of the Steel workers union hall. 4 out of 5 other volunteers near me were Republicans who've gone AWOL on Bush. They can't stand the religious right, and Bush's Neo-con, anti-conservative idiots. :bounce:
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:58 PM
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9. there are SO many reasons |
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to turn away from *... that's why i'm convinced it will be a factor today... getting out the dem base guarantees dem votes, getting out the repubs is no guarantee if they're sick of bushco too.
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Tue Nov-02-04 02:03 PM
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10. There are long lines here too... |
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Initially I thought well that's probably good for Bush. Given this is a heavily Republican area. But on second thought I'll bet a good number of those are Kerry supporters. Have to wait till later to see though. During canvasing some voters I swore must be Bushies later turned out to be Kerry supporters, I was really surprised. Only anectodal, but a few here and a few there is all we need to carry Iowa.
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Tue Nov-02-04 03:11 PM
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15. i'm hearing reports (FL!) |
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that turnout is NOT huge in heavily repub precincts!
add the 'i can't vote FOR * factor' to the mix...
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Tue Nov-02-04 02:13 PM
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11. No, the story in this election is MASSIVE turnout |
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Tue Nov-02-04 02:16 PM
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12. no argument, but we've assumed it would be |
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and that story is already being reported. that story only has HOW massive to be filled in.
this won't be clear until votes come in. and, the cablewhores are certainly not mentioning anything (yet)
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Tue Nov-02-04 02:18 PM
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13. my republican boss just told me he voted for KERRY! |
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the oil report i forwarded him over the weekend did it :evilgrin:
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Tue Nov-02-04 02:29 PM
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14. bushco and the repuke leadership |
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is going to be SO gut-punched tonight.
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Tue Nov-02-04 03:13 PM
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16. the repubs that I know |
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cannot bring themselves to vote for Kerry, some for Vietnam, some for greed. But they will not say that they will vote for bu$h, he is such an embarrassment. I suspect Nader may get more votes from their side than ours.
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Tue Nov-02-04 03:19 PM
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17. actually, I would bet more would stay home |
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before they would stand in a long line to vote for NADER....
don't ya think? the repub turnout will be a shocker.
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Tue Nov-02-04 03:46 PM
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18. They'll still go vote for state & local repukes....but will either vote |
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Nader for pres., or leave it blank.
They'll still try to put their own kind back into state and local offices, though.
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