Listening to Sirius Left 143 today....

[Postman]

Alex Bennett program, Thomm Hartman program.

Bush voters calling in wondering why the left was soo upset at the outcome of the election.

After listening to them it became soo clear to me that right-wing Joe Sixpack has NO CLUE how serious the situation in this country is and overseas.

Totally un-informed, mis-informed. Truly, truly scary.

[nikatnyte]

1. You just realized that they're clueless?

That's what comes from insulating themselves from channels of valid information and most of the outside world.

[Postman]

3. No, I knew they were clueless...

its just soo incredible to hear, in the year 2004, people trying to explain to you that the earth is flat. Do you know what I mean?

I mean everything they talk about flys in the face of logic, reason and evidence.

[Born Free]

5. they replaced reason with blind faith nationalism

It's a total waste of time trying to reason with them, they are almost brainwashed, refuse to listen or consider anything , the right wing propaganda machine has taken total control of America and unless democrats can develop their own machine to counter the daily rightwing propagand our message of reason will never be heard

[Old and In the Way]

12. Case in point.

The US Department of Parks has put signs up telling us the Grand Canyon is only 6,000 years old and created by the Biblical Flood. What's next? Bush is the son of God?

Meanwhile, the rest of the world invests in education and technology while we watch our standard of living go down the shitter.

[one_true_leroy]

2. i know...

isn't it creepy how little people know and how little they care? we have a pres who's proud of his lack of acumen and inofmation. he's all swagger. and joeblow worchips him. it's repudiation directed to all the pointy-heads who learn about things and ask lots of embarassing Q's? Assuming they don't shout you down, most of these people will nod in agreement when presented with well researched facts, but they sure as ain't gonna go lookin' for those facts themselves!

[BernieBear]

7. This is what most of the nation is

George Bush used the most sophisticated psychologicaal tactics on this nation. Putting people into a state of fear, which infantilizes them, thus they seek a strong "daddy" to just make it all better and are unable to even process logic and reason.

A nation of "good ole boys" who SAY they worship God (while decryig any empathy, calling for hatred of homosexuals, disdaning abortion as murder and unwlling generally to see any shade other than black and white).

These are the people we've been fighting for. They disdain us. Calling us liberal elites because we can put together a sentence that actually has a beginning, end, noun and verb.

Fuck them all. A bunch of Christian Fundamentalists who are sure THEIR God is better than the Islamic God. Good God, don't they see they are one and the same. Religious intolerance is religious intolerance regardless of which "SIDE" they are on.

Everyone fighting to show Israel how much we "are" with them. Fuck Israel. Let Sharon and Arafat (before he got sick) be stuck in a room together, tell both of them we aren't giving another precious dollar to either side and work it out big boys, because we're not letting you out of the room until you do.

Fuck them all. I'm sick of it. Bush LIES. Why can't anyone see that? Christian? Huh, Yea a sunday morning Christian who sends innocent men to have their arms and legs blown off so he and his "have mores" can stay happy.

I live in a gated community and I'm staying here. Forget the work to help those who don't friggin want it, deserve it or even give thanks for it. From now on I'm focusing on MY life and fuck the rest.

So much for John the closer, John the fighter, John the come back kid. Totally let the south go. The entire friggin south. Bunch of Christian hypocrites anyway. You can't talk to them. They still think Saddam Hussein is the reason 3000 people are dead.

Fuck them all.

BB

[BernieBear]

8. Sorry posted my diatribe in the wrong forum. Those who are

seeking to be calm, I apologize.

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. And they like it that way!

Which is the sad part!

[Mountainman]

6. Sometimes I think about getting a brain transplant so I can be as dumb

and happy. I could try to reprogram myself to be a fundie or something.

That way I can be happy that our morals will improve and we will be safe from any and all boogymen. I may starve to death but God will have a reword for me.

[BernieBear]

9. I call it learning Spaghetti Talk

You know people who constantly get together with other people and talk about things like "did you put mushrooms in this spaghetti sauce, it's delicious?" They can spend an entire evening on this sort of BS. Praise Jesus and blow up Falljuh. These people are unable to see beyond their own noses and certainly don't see the hypocriticalness of any of their actions. They're the flag waving support our troops group. We're the one's saying, "uh, excuse me, don't you think it would be more supportive to not have our troops in a no-win war, fighting for dollars to line Halliburton's pockets?" But then we're the unpatriotic, Godless, morality challenged ones.

I'll pit my daily program of spirituality against their Christian fundamentalism anyday of the week (except maybe today as I'm pissed off).

Well, this is supposed to be the "supportive" thread, so I guess I'll go find the acrimonious thread and say what I really feel!

BB

[Batgirl]

10. how can they possibly be "uninformed?"

with the bombardment of news and information, streaming constantly from our televisions? Months, nay years, devoted to examining and re-examining every detail, significant or otherwise. Journalists, searching relentlessly for the facts, never resting, never letting up on the story -- a veritable geyser of reportage.

Oh wait, I was thinking of the Scott Peterson case. Never mind.

[Batgirl]

11. and speaking of the radio

I've been streaming AAR all day and my hat's off to every one of them for doing their jobs under these circumstances.