I was totally bummed until my son made a great point.

[kohodog]

We'll be dealing with a lot of bad news for a few years, but Kerry would have had a hard time fixing Iraq, the defecit and just about everything else. Bush can no longer blame Clinton and the Dem's and will have to live with the mess he is making. In four years the people making 25k or 50k and have had their jobs outsourced and their healthcare costing more than their taxes will (maybe) start to look at the reality of the situation.

Kerry would have had a tough time without the House or Senate and would have been blamed for everything.

Personally I believe they hijacked the vote count, but nonetheless we need to start now to build a truely progressive democratic party.

[WindRavenX]

1. ahh but see

No matter what, Dimson can do no wrong...all will be blamed on Clenis.
And the fucking sheep will buy it.

[WMliberal]

7. you're right. because according to freeper logic, reagan caused

the spectacular economy of the 90's. ergo, Bush's failures in Iraq must be the Clenis's fault.

[kikiek]

2. I agree. Also I keep thinking of a few different psychics that

predicted Bush would start but not finish his 2nd term. I wonder if he is going to be impeached. I know many here don't think it could happen. But if he is implicated in Plame or Iraq the repugs won't have a choice. It will be that or dementia will take over what little of his brain is left.

[kohodog]

6. I mentioned this in another thread that sank.

So many possible indictments. Nixon won his second term too.

Dimentia seems like it has already started. Either that or he is drinking heavily again.

[UNIXcock]

8. hardly likely with a ...

... Republican Senate and House

[SemperEadem]

27. don't let them distance themselves from *

and force them to stay in the same pen as *. The guilt by association tactic could be used effectively against them...

never let people forget that Alan Keyes is the face of the mainstream republican party--they are all, deep down, cut from the same cloth, no matter what lie they use to say the contrary.

[AndyTiedye]

11. I Know One Person Who Voted for Boosh to See Him Go Down in Flames

Nixon-style. Impeachment and all that. It could happen.

I tried to dissuade him, as that seems a very high-risk strategy
for the country. He lives in NY, so it didn't matter anyway.
(Did any of our votes matter?)

I still have "IMPEACH BUSH" stickers on my cars from before
the reselection campaign got started.

[aquart]

14. The Republicans have total power.

But many of them denounced Bush. What charming forms of discipline will be used to bring them to heel?

Only the Republicans have the power to bring Bush down.

Are they triumphant over this victory? Or nearly as sick as we are?

[kikiek]

18. I think there are many as sick as we are. They have been under this

sick assholes thumb for 4 years. I don't think they wanted another 4.

[captain disgruntled]

16. I don't know how we'd spot the dementia....

They never let him outside without supervision and/or a teleprompter.

[kikiek]

20. That is true.

[Karenina]

30. You might try one of these...

http://home.comcast.net/~blogitics/BushTenYrs4MB.mov

http://tinyurl.com/6eelb

http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz.htm

Then get back to me... :evilgrin:

[kohodog]

32. Like I said...

Thanks Karenina. Pretty scary though. Suppose they'll all feel sorry for him.

Interesting how he still blinked a lot (though nit quite as much) in the Texas debate.

Watching him through the campaign made me think he's on different meds on different days. Some days he seemed speeded up, others slowed down and on a few, just plain out of it.

[Jane Austin]

23. The way his mental faculties seem to be failing,

it's more likely he'll become completely unable to function.

[trotsky]

3. Kerry would have found it impossible without Congress.

The Me-pubs would have declared everything of his DOA.

[Nashyra]

5. The repukes came back after Clinton's re election

We can too, omly we'll be stronger and the * mess will resonate longer.

[BearFlagDemocrat]

4. That's what we said after 2002...

And Bush/Rove still managed to blame Kerry and Edwards for the military not having helmets and body armor, as well as so many other things...

As long as the media allows the truth to be spun, the Repugs are going to spin it that the Dems are the source of all ills, even with the Repugs firmly in control.

[kohodog]

12. Taking on the media

May be the most important thing we can do to keep our Democracy (assuming we still have it). Let's bring back the fairness act and Break up the consolidated media.

[aquart]

17. Maybe we should start campaigning NOW.

Every public lie refuted with a truthful ad.

[Jane Austin]

25. Even easier, print out small cards or labels with a truth factoid

and leave them everywhere!

Stay to the issues, and maybe a few more will catch on.

[Kimber Scott]

26. That's the total strategy - do something then blame it on the other guy.

:nuke:

[izzie]

9. I have looked at it this way but----

Bush has never fixed a mess he made and has usually let pals of his father's to clean it up. His father's friends must be about his age now 80? Will they have time? We also have to live the mess.

[TrustingDog]

10. It is always darkest before the dawn.

[AndyTiedye]

13. It's Even Darker When the Storm is About to Hit

[TrustingDog]

24. as a mom with a 27 hour labour ordeal...

I thought the world ended as I knew it to be, all it was, was pain and impossible and time stopped, time did funny things. All I wanted was to get away from it, but there was no way out, I was the player with no stand-ins to take over. I had to deal.

but upon the delivery I was elated and ready to party and forgot all the nastiness of it to my personal being and glorified that something so wonderful came out of all of it.

You are in immense pain, but something good will come out of it - hang in, don't give up.

[calico1]

19. That is true. Yes, Bush has gotten away with

eveything so far. But it gets harder now to blame Clinton or blame the Democrats in Congress. He has the majority. I think what needs to happen is a lot of people being affected personally. Like hit hard in the pocketbook. Remember, a lot of people who voted for him are not wingnuts, just people who have always voted Republican and just didn't like Kerry, or people who belive in not changing horses when there is a war. They aren't going to stick by him once their standard of living goes way down, or God forbid their kids start getting drafted.

[UCLA Dem]

15. * can fix his own fucking mess. I think your son has a point.

[Snellius]

21. In the 60s we used to call this the shit house scenario

The premise being America would never see the need for revolutionary change until the whole shit house comes tumbling down. The further the enemy concentrates and solidifies its power, the easier it will be to identify and overthrow. Ralph Nader seems to be the disciple of this form of apocalyptic thinking.

[LittleClarkie]

29. Enough rope to hang himself with?

That might just be it.

[snacker]

22. My husband and I were just discussing this.

As much as I wanted John Kerry to be my president and as much as he deserved it, it is King George's mess----LET HIM FIX IT.

[kohodog]

28. Yep, Bush shit himself

He can try to clean it up. In the meantime we can start to build a progressive democratic party.

[deadparrot]

31. Yep. Even though I would trade my soul for a Kerry win,

he would be inheriting a lot of problems, and a Republican Congress to boot.

Kerry would have united the Republicans. Shrubby's just going to divide the party, the moderate and liberal Republicans, from the fundie base with his far right wing agenda.