So who is running in 2008 for the Dems?

[Champ]

Hillary?

[olddem43]

1. I'd vote for John Kerry

[NamVetsWeeLass]

5. yes, I would vote For Kerry and Edwards in 2k8

Eh, I imagaine it will be Hillary though. Does she have a snow ball's chance in hell? I don't know. I kinda hope the Johns do it again.

[LittleClarkie]

15. Kerry/Edwards in 2008

Hell, the bumperstickers will still be good.

I'm glad I hopped over here from the angry forum. I need to feel supported tonight. I'm still fighting crying jags.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

21. Live to fight another day!

I had to post their pictures. This is the first one I've seen all day. I love you, John-squared!

[WI_DEM]

2. If she wins re-election to senate I'm sure she will run

[blue america]

9. however

IF rudy boots her in 2006, she could be forever done.

What about Biden or Warner?

[arcos]

20. Joe "Rave Act" Biden???

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[DU9598]

11. A few other early contenders

I will a few that I think could be top contenders:

The Governors
NM - Bill Richardson
IA - Tom Vilsack

The Senators
NY - Hillary
DE - Biden

Outsiders
AR - Clark
MN - Ventura (although likely 3rd party)

I only throw in Jesse Ventura because I think the Dem's need to set up a thrid party candidate to split some of the Repuke base. I think Ventura could take away a lot of the NASCAR men from their base while leaving the vast majority of women voting for a Hillary or Clark.

My mind will change on all this in 5 minutes, but my thoughts of the moment.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

19. ri9chardson's a good idea

i heard peter jennings discussing how instead of taking the south, the dems really need to put together an alternative coalition of western states. richardson would lock up new mexico and help with hispanics across the board, which we need in florida

plus, he's a very likeable with some great positions. loved him when he'd go on politically incorrect back on ABC

[spotbird]

3. This is at least the 25th Hillary '08 thread today.

The right wing loves to bring this up, if Rush's show wasn't about it today it will be tomorrow. Let's just leave it alone, please.

[Champ]

6. I'm not saying Hillary '08

Just making a guess, I just want to read from other DUers of possible candidates for '08.

[kcwayne]

4. It won't be a gay atheist that supports choice, can read books with

multi-syllable words, lives in New England, and thinks bombing innocent civilians is immoral

[dorktv]

7. Howard Brush Dean III

and this time the Deaniacs will have the fact that the DLC failed AGAIN, the knowledge of 2 different elections behind them and hopefully a new way of talking to the people.

And by the time he runs...we will need a hell-raiser like Dean. I always thought he was more like FDR then Truman.

[mandyky]

34. I concur

We've already got DFA and plenty of willing Deaniacs!

[dorktv]

39. We did it the DLC way thrice and look what it got us.

Time to redo the party.

[cali]

8. Never. Ever.

Hillary is a terrible candidate. The way I feel? Dean '08.

[pstokely]

10. let's focus on 2006

for now

[Champ]

12. I agree

But just pondering on who might be the next Democrat Presidential Candidate. But I'm with you, all our efforts at this point should be working toward a Democrat Senate and House as well as winning State-wide elections such as Governor, State Senator, etc.

[Bombtrack]

13. I really wish people would stop posting these threads

at least when they mention the idiotic idea of Hillary Clinton.

I'm not bashing you. You didn't see all the other posts. I just need to quit DU for at least a good amount of time.

[greekspeak]

14. Guess that depends on who is running the DEMS in 2008

Hmmm...will it be a Holy Joe, or a Biden? Will it be a progessive? I doubt it. It will probably be some good little lap dog.

[madfloridian]

16. Today, my doctor said this about Dean. Surprised me.

She said "well, at least, the Democrats have a leader now, with an established group."

I had not been aware she was even paying attention.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

17. no hillary, i reapeat, no hillary

too much baggage, the GOP hates her, progressives hate her

she's a spineless, DLC opportunist

[TomClash]

18. List of potential candidates

Hillary
Dean
Gore
Kerry
Edwards
Easley
Bayh
Obama

[billhos]

22. My bets on person's running

Bayh
Edwards
Hillary
Renner
Richardson

[Reader Rabbit]

23. Repeat After Me

Obama
Obama
Obama
Obama
Obama

[lessthanjake]

27. Heres my list

1. PHIL BREDESEN (governor of tennessee)
2. Wesley clark
3. Bill Richardson
4. Michael Easley
5. Mark Warner


Personally as of now my choice is either a Bredesen/Richardson ticket or a Bredesen/Clark ticket.

[mccormack98]

24. It should be whoever has the best shot at winning

Several national polls last year showed consistantly that the party's strongest candidates were Gore and Hillary (in that order).

My money, if he'd run,would be on Gore. He consistantly kicked everyone's asses in the polls throughout 2002 and 2003. The latest poll run with Gore in it was a Zogby national poll in September of last year. He destroyed the field. Not even close.

Gore is well liked. He is a Southerner. He opposed the Iraq war. He is the antithesis of Bush. He is on fire. And he has a wealth of experience running national campaigns. He also has organized grassroots support (Moveon.org plus several Gore organizations such as algoredemocrats.com.)

I don't know if Gore would run. He has made the transition to private life. He is raking in the big bucks in Silicon Valley (I'm guessing he did pretty well with the Google IPO). And he is in the process of launching his television network. He is his own boss and doesn't have to have assholes like Candy Crowly and Bill Schneider criticizing his every change of clothes.

Bill

[Bush was AWOL]

25. Hillary has no chance of winning a National Election

She'd lose far worse than Kerry.

Warner, Vilsack, Richardson, Easley are who we should be looking at.

Senators can't win.

[srpantalonas]

26. Edwards Obama

eom

[Dob Bole]

28. Mark Warner, Evan Bayh (sic) Clark, Richardson, Clinton, Obama are likely

[Hippo_Tron]

29. I'd like an unknown...

America likes "outsiders".

[lessthanjake]

30. Actually ok heres the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bredesen
Easley
Richardson
Clark
Warner
Bayh
Obama


It should be one of them.

[PotatoBoy]

31. Obama, baby!

[lessthanjake]

32. Nah 2012 or 2016 for him 4 years in the senate isnt enough experience

...

[PretzelWarrior]

33. who cares right now? idiotic to even think about 2008.

but Hillary? HILLARY??? give me a break. another NE united states LIBERAL and a conservative fundie lightning rod to boot. Dems would be fully in the grave if that got on the ticket.

[tanyev]

35. I think by that time

we're gonna need Frodo.

Frodo/Sam '08!!! :bounce:

[GoldenOldie]

36. Start with the Congress and the Senate

It's time to start looking at each State for more Obama's. They are out there and we need to find them and support them regardless of what State they represent. This is what Dean has been promoting and I think it's the only way to take back control.

[lessthanjake]

37. We need to talk about corruption

We have been using the "we will look out for you" stuff too much. It doesnt work. We need to talk about corporate special interests and how republicans are just in the pockets of corporations. We will say we will bring on the advent of politics by the people and for the people not by the CEO and for the CEO. If we do that then we can at the same time pull the "we are looking out for you stuff" since it will be more plausible when we are running on an anti corruption thing.

[tedoll78]

38. Clark. Absolutely.

And I say this as a former Deaniac.

He has no voting record to scrutinize.
He has had really dramatic injuries in wartime.
He has a stellar record of service.
He's really good-lookin'.
He has bipartisan credentials while being pretty liberal on actual policies.
He's Southern.
He's a general.

There's probably a Draft Clark 2008 movement budding in the immediate future. His two big problems from this year - inexperience and funding - will be negated this time around. He will be more politically seasoned by the time 2008 arrives, and the draft movement will have gathered pledges for plenty of money by then as well.

And then there's the electoral math. If we can get him to spend a year or two in Arkansas building-up his public profile and promoting awareness of his roots there, I'm willing to bet that Arkansas' 6 votes would go to us. Add the Gore states (which is still VERY possible) and New Hampshire, and we'd win with exactly 270EVs. No Ohio or Florida needed.

There's my condensed argument for Clark.

[cyr330]

40. NOT Hillary, I hope!

Hillary has been too much of a hawk on the war, and furthermore, she would polarize the Repukes so much that there's no fucking way we would win. . . I'll have to wait & see who might pop up between now and then to even have an opinion. I still feel too sick and nauseated to even think about any more elections for the time being. Our country is ruined.