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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:08 AM
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Taking The Country Forward
I've been thinking about this for a long time now and it continues to bother me, so here it comes: a load of blather about the 2004 election and race. I am aware that this will probably generate either the silence of distinterest or the flames of defensiveness, but I'm taking the risk. We need to do some serious thinking about this if we do not want another 4 years of Bush.

First off, what I mean by "we," on this nasty gray Monday morning on which I, unlike 90% of the country, am at work: I'm talking about the American white left. I would use the term "white liberals" except that I personally do not identify as a liberal any more, having moved past that to "radical" and through "radical" to "crackpot." I'm talking about the white people in this country who are intellectually and ideologically committed to liberty and justice for all, yes all including Americans who are not white or are poor. I'm talking about the segment of the Democratic base that seems to be lining up most enthusiastically behind Dean and Kucinich, the segment of the Democratic base that makes up the vast majority of the population I see at the average anti-war rally, constituents' meeting, national march, and so on. I am not knocking the contributions of the white left; after all, we have done a lot of hard work trying to protect this country and the world from the worst depredations of the white right. But the white left cannot save this country all by itself; and that is why we need to do some hard thinking about how to take this to the next level.

As much as we all abuse the DLC for being a bunch of Republican-lite outselling spineless bastards, it is important to realize that they are the way they are simply because they have recognized a fundamental truth: the white left is now so outnumbered that they cannot win you an election, except in certain narrowly circumscribed geographical areas. Their solution is to attempt to remake the Democratic party so that it appeals more to the white center and (I hurl just thinking about it) the white right. This solution is patently wrong, as we learn in whole new ways every single day. The white right is not interested in compromise; the only thing that appeals to the white right is total surrender. The white center, faced with a choice between the triumphant Republicans and the truckling Democrats, will lean to the right because for most people, power is attractive. So we need another solution, and the obvious alternative is to go beyond the white electorate. This country has large and growing African-American, Latino, Asian-American, and recent-immigrant populations. The white right supports policies that screw the hell out of all of these groups. So the axiomatic thing would be for the white left to join forces with the non-white electorate, overpower the white right, and draw the white center to us with our newfound magnetism.

None of this is new thinking. What we need to realize is that we the white left cannot ask the nonwhite electorate to support us the same way that Bush is asking the U.N. to support our war in Iraq. In other words, we cannot generate broad support in the nonwhite electorate without sharing control of the agenda. If we want currently disenfranchised and disaffected nonwhite voters involved in the democratic process--which is absolutely necessary if we are not to get run over yet again by the juggernaut of the white right--then our candidates have to be willing to run on their issues. And as far as I can tell, that is just not happening.

Yes, all the current Democratic candidates are better on race than the Republicans (even, I would argue, Joe Lieberman). That is not enough. It is not enough because almost none of them are willing to go below the cosmetic level to get to the real bedrock of racial oppression in this country. Why is it, for example, that with 9 candidates in the race, we hear so little about:

* The criminalization and consequent disenfranchisement of African-Americans, especially through mandatory minimum drug sentencing guidelines that are disproportionately enforced on nonwhite offenders.

* The enormous expansion and increasing political and economic power of the prison industry, which has a vested interest in continuing to criminalize and disenfranchise African-Americans.

* The failure of welfare reform, which as we must remember was passed on Clinton's watch.

* The drying up of affordable housing and other forms of state support for the un- or underemployed.

* The criminal and abysmal state of public education in this country, which is expressly designed so that the poorest children are least likely to get the kind of education which might enable them not to remain poor.

* The fact that many Americans are now working full-time (or overtime) at jobs that do not pay a living wage.

The list could go on, but my point is: these are all issues you might expect to be of real interest to potential voters who are now too disenfranchised and/or disgusted by this country to participate in the electoral process. Why don't we hear about them? I can think of two reasons. One is that our candidates are simply afraid to touch them, as they are guaranteed to play poorly for the white center and the white right. The other is that as well-meaning as the white left is, we share a certain blindness about the source of our country's problems that we have managed to communicate to "our" candidates.

You hear a lot at marches and rallies about "taking the country back." I have been thinking about this especially because of all the commemorations of the March on Washington lately. The point of the original March on Washington was that the country had never really been given to them in the first place. The point was to seize the rights to life, liberty, and happiness that the constitution had promised all Americans--not again, but for the first time. When we the white left talk about "taking the country back," we acknowledge our own entitlement without really reflecting on it. White voters are in the streets now because they have realized that they are losing the rights that they once had. They do not always appear to understand that for a lot of the people with whom we the white left share the country, those rights were always lost to begin with. Yes, legally the Constitution now protects the right to vote regardless of race. The system now revokes that right indirectly through the criminalization of African-American men (felons cannot vote). This is one example of a larger pattern that has worked istelf out since the 1960s: we grant legal rights on paper and then revoke them through economic oppression. Jim Crow is gone; but segregation is still with us. Is your neighborhood *really* integrated? Mine sure as shit isn't. How about your public school? Or have you even been in your public school lately? Do you send your kids to a parochial school, or a magnet school, or homeschool them, because your own public school is so crappy?

My point is this: we are all very focused on the changes that have taken place under Bush that affect *our* rights--the curtailment of free speech, job loss, disenfranchisement through electoral fraud, the war, and so on. A huge chunk of the Democratic party's potential base does not care about these things because 1) they were already oppressed, unemployed, and disenfranchised before Bush took office and 2) returning the country to the status quo ante Bush is not going to help them.

So we cannot take our country back. We have to take it forward. We have to undo not just two years of Bush, but 20 years of capitalism running amok. And we have to be prepared to make sacrifices. Taxes, for sure. But also, we have to think about whether we are ready to really relinquish our position of privilege. How will we like it when 7 of the party presidential hopefuls are *not* white? Are we prepared to take steps that will lead to our becoming less important to the party than our more numerous nonwhite brothers and sisters? Are we ready to admit that it is not all about us and our rights?

I would go on if time permitted, but right now, it doesn't. But either we do some thinking abotu this, or we are sunk. So I hope to see other people responding to this with their ideas, because we sure need some.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:15 AM
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1. I hope you're not an air traffic controller...
:-)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:21 AM
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2. Thank you for such a thoughtful post. Plaid Adder.
Are the candidates addressing the issues of race, class and enfranchisement? I think Edwards definitely is. But I also think it is an interesting proposal that the party shift its thinking on who it can attract.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:26 AM
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3. That is an excellent post!
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 11:27 AM by liberalmuse
I very much agree with you. The prison/justice system is appalling, because it is very biased against blacks, latinos and every other minority group. The drug war is biased against minorities. Unless the Democratic party or left reaches out to the disenfranchized and gives them a reason to vote, then the right will always have an edge on us. I think it's really sad that a large number of people don't have anyone who truly represents them in D.C., or locally, in most cases. Something's got to change. If we stand for justice and equality for ALL, we'd better start showing it.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:35 PM
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12. If the drug warriors went after rich, Republican whites
They'd enact legislation to repeal it last week!
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:07 PM
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13. So why not run on that?
"First thing we do: start jailing ALL drug users! Starting with Bush!"

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:33 AM
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4. excellent and difficult post
I need to read this a couple more times before I have anything like something worthwhile to say in response. Good stuff.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 12:27 PM
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6. What you say is so emminently reasonable
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 12:28 PM by Beetwasher
and glaringly obvious that most Dems don't even realize it's an option that's there. It's the nose on their face. But they're too busy pandering to the "moderates" because they saw that that's what worked for the Repubs- Monkey see monkey do. Doing that will NEVER work for them, ever. We're playing their game on their field by their rules. But there's an army (literally, that would blow any perceived Repub margin of victory out of the water) of potential voters out there that has never voted, but probably would, if they had some attention thrown their way, were made to be angry and motivated about their present state and finally had the proper hope instilled in them that they might make progress if they fight and ultimately vote for the right candidate. They should abandon ALL attention they give the moderates. Fuck 'em. There's an army of minority, middle class to poor voters that are ripe for the plucking for someone who can effectively communicate the right message.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:01 PM
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7. can't let this sink
This is excellent food for thought.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:11 PM
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8. A Thought For Lunchtime: Al Sharpton
OK, it is about time we considered this strange fact: Arnold Schwarzenegger is a serious candidate, but Al Sharpton is not. What's that about?

The position on Sharpton has always been that he's a novelty candidate/joke, even among commentators who agree that it can only be healthy to have some nonwhite participation in this race. Now, part of that may be Tawana Brawley; part of it may be that Sharpton is a minister and not a senator, governor, or congressman. But let's face it: Sharpton is just as qualified to be President as Schwarzenegger is qualified to be governor of California. Probably more so, since as a minister he has presumably had to deal with the actual problems of actual people, whereas Arnold...oh I can't even think about it.

Somehow, everyone can imagine Arnold parlaying his totally irrelevant celebrity into a governorship, much the way Reagan did (first as governor of California, then as president). For Sharpton to do the same strikes most of us as unthinkable. Why? Because we just can't get our minds around the possibility that the population that would be attracted to Sharpton would actually get out and vote?

Or what abotu Carol "is she still running cause you never hear about her" Moseley-Braun, who actually does have experience? Why isn't she more of a player? Maybe there's a good reason, but I wouldn't know what it is because she doesn't get 1/100th of the coverage given to Dean, Kerry, Kucinich, Lieberman, or even Sharpton. Is that JUST the media's fault? Or is the party responsible too?

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:20 PM
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10. If you want to liberate/appeal to someone ... give them the basics
food, water, shelter, healthcare and jobs. My sig lines states this. When you take care of those who are less fortunate (or however you want to describe those who starving/homeless, etc.) then you can take back the country. South Americans are finding this out! (Check out 'Hope's Edge' by Frances Moore Lappe & Anna Lappe/Diet for Small Planet)

At this point, this country is all about taking care of the $$$ and letting everyone else slide through the cracks. Until we change our attitudes, thoughts and most importantly, our hearts, nothing will change :(

BTW, I find it interesting that I've seen this stated in both the people purporting left and right regarding each other:

>THEY ARE UNCOMPROMISING<

:hi:

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:11 PM
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9. Crackpots for America!
:hi:

I wish I had the answers. I hate to have to admit it, but we'll have to get more people involved to get any kind of progress. I mean everybody...not just those that would vote.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:24 PM
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11. A great big bump. Now yer talking.
Same frustration I have reached about the matter. What good is winning if all we do is maintain the status quo? Why are we fighting to become republicans just to win. Let the bastards leave the party who can't deal with it. I know this sounds scary. "How will we win."
But the democratic partyn will simply have to boldly remake itself, or we stay "republican lite."

Beautiful post.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:08 PM
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14. Kicking myself
because it's just that kind of day, and because this is important, dammit.

:kick:

The Plaid Adder
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:22 PM
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15. Thanks Plaid Adder.
You always serve up heaping piles of thought to feed our brains with.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:37 PM
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16. Or heaping piles of something else...
Excellent Xena picture, btw.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:47 PM
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17. Chicken and Egg Problem?
Politicians seem to pander to or seek the votes of blocks of people who tend to vote disproportionately more than other blocks. Simple fact, unpleasant as it may be.

E.g. retirees, RW fundies, union workers, older whities, etc.

For all the reasons you state so eloquently, I don't think the "minority" groups you discussed have a tendency to vote, likely because they feel disenfranchised by lack of a good choice, the felony conviction Jim Crow crap, or just have given up and don't want to be bothered because it seems hopeless.

Certain things can re-energize those who have given up on voting. The Vietnam war did.....because African Americans were getting drafted and killed in droves. Civil Rights activism in the 1960's did.

You can bet that the unemployment problems of today are affecting minorities as a group more than whites.

I don't know how you motivate for change those who don't feel that being part of the political system can work for them.

In the 2002 senatorial race, the last minute help of Clinton got black leadership in Louisiana to vote for Mary Landrieu and tipped the scales to defeat Smirk's choice, and it worked.

Maybe it'll be part of the region by region, state by state political efforts by the Dem candidate who gets the nomination. The Dean campaign is so energized (with its current supporters at least) and seems quite clever and efficient. I have hopes that they will call on those who can help motivate minority voters. I'm worried about the tired campaign styles of many of the other potential candidates. Don't know if they are engergized enough to go for it that way.

(Disclaimer: I support Dean and ABBorL)

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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:56 PM
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18. How funny. I'm listening to Lieberman,
for once making a bit of sense about the oppression of the minority races....

Well he was, until he shifted gears into his own faith.*sigh* Damn, I thought he was finally going to impress me.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:59 PM
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19. Kick!
:kick:
Something we should have been doing all along.
When did we dems abandon these people? Why?
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 06:12 PM
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20. A couple more thoughts after re-reading-
I turned on C-span this afternoon just in time to catch the Democratic appearances in Iowa. The host of the event said the name Dennis Kucinich and as usual I leapt from my chair and raced to the next room to watch.

By the time he was finished I was moved to tears by hope and pride flowing from his speech. It's funny that you mention "move forward". That was the final theme of Kucinich's speech. Each change he listed was prefaced by "As we move forward, America...". Each change was motivated by his clear and open love for humanity as a whole. I share that with him. I love people, period.

I think what you've spoken of here, the people who were already oppressed, unemployed, disenfranchised well before Bush came on the scene are very much on the mind of my candidate and on my own mind. We've seen it first-hand for far too long. We're sick of anyone being in those positions in a country where it isn't at all necessary. We're sick of seeing people in those situations and not being able to help them directly. We're sick of people dying in the name of justice, being imprisoned for things they can't help or didn't do, people being persecuted because of profiling and on and on it goes.

My candidate, Dennis J. Kucinich is calling on every one of us who feels this way to act together to stop it. He knows, as well as we do, that no one of us can possibly change it alone. People, all people, LIFE in all its various forms, without categorizing by race, creed, gender, or even species is a central theme of the Kucinich campaign. The needs of the people, ALL people being met so that we can ALL find the joys in living is his goal. That is the big picture, and if finding that picture a beautiful and much desired dream makes me crazy, so be it.

I'd rather be crazy than completely without hope, strength of spirit, determination to fight, not just for myself but for everyone and everything on this planet. I genuinely hope every single American joins me in my so-called "insanity" because, together, we can make these changes. If we carry on down the path of least resistance we are dommed to a repeat of 2000, and I so desperately do not want that.
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