I would move to a Red state......

[rlev1223]

and start to chip away from the inside, but I can't think of one I could stand to live in. Any suggestions?

[yardwork]

1. North Carolina

One, we need all the help we can get.

Two, there are liberal enclaves like the one I live in that are actually quite nice when we aren't grieving.

Three, the weather and scenery is beautiful.

Four, southerners are genuinely pleasant and polite, even to strangers. Sure, many of them will vote to demonize you and the people you love, but they'll smile while they're doing it.

[Southsideirish]

14. I bet you are in beautiful Asheville. You have the same idea as my

husband - move there and help change it and Asheville is the perfect place to start!

[yardwork]

35. Asheville is great, but I live in the beautiful Triangle

equidistant to the mountains and the sea.

[socalover]

29. they "will vote to demonize you, but they'll smile while they're doing it"

"southerners are genuinely pleasant and polite, even to strangers. Sure, many of them will vote to demonize you and the people you love, but they'll smile while they're doing it"...

So fucking true, I live in the south, JawJah!

[socalover]

30. they "will vote to demonize you, but they'll smile while they're doing it"

"southerners are genuinely pleasant and polite, even to strangers. Sure, many of them will vote to demonize you and the people you love, but they'll smile while they're doing it"...

So fucking true, I live in the south, JawJah!

[olddem43]

2. You could try Ohio, it is closer to being able to turn than most.

But still, it will take several hunded thousand voters to make a difference.

[ogradda]

3. my mom's from south dakota

she says people are very nice there. i was surprised when i found out they were so red.

[crispini]

4. Come live in Dallas!

Don't freak, housing is CHEAP as hell, there is a good gay neighborhood and lots of liberal pockets, a wonderful local music scene, excellent restaurants, and three art house cinemas.

Public transportation sux, but it's getting better. Sort of.

and we just elected a gay female Hispanic Sheriff and three Democratic judges! We narrowed the margin of victory Shrub had down to 1 percent. We are working on it hard! lotsa good dems down here! :D

[Ron Green]

12. Sorry...no Dallas for me. Although Fort Worth is a good town.

Better museums, easier traffic, more laid-back.

[rlev1223]

16. so what are saying.........?

Too straight to be gay, to slobby to be metro......

[crispini]

25. WTF?

I'm saying what I'm saying, dude. There's a lot of variety in this city, including the gay community. Afraid I don't really get your point.

[rlev1223]

27. OMFG!!

Calm down, it was a joke. I live in the most diverse city in the world.

[crispini]

37. mk, sorry. afraid I was just a little puzzled and came off as freaked.

:thumbsup:

[rlev1223]

40. well, my joke was kinda lame

:toast:

[lpricanprynces]

32. I agree, Dallas is great

Dallas is a great place to live. Lots of stuff to do, good social scene for straight and gay, fairly clean, and there are lots of liberals here. The only sore spot is public transportation, which should be fixed in another 10 years or so.

[Dallas Suzy Q]

33. I Live Near Dallas but May Move Near Austin

I love Texas... Really but my Texas is the Texas of Kinky Friedman and Willie Nelson and Austin City Limits.

I'm an older lesbian and I live with my partner and our cats.

Suddenly there seems something to be said for living in an area of Texas described as the san Francisco Bay Area of Texas.

I'm an old hippie leftie and like my weather warm. I like the way Austin feels and the Hill Country around Austin.

Maybe we'll buy about ten acres or so with a house and invite some nice old hippie lesbian cat loving ladies to join us in a retirement situation.

I was kidding with my partner and said we could all wear identical crosses and tell people we are a religious order.

Suzy

[HoosierClarkie]

5. Indiana needs YOU!

not sure you'd like it here though.

[rlev1223]

17. I'm from Chic. area

Got drunk in Mishawaka (sp?) the night of the Nixon's "Saturday Night Massacre" Haven't been back to IN since, except to speed through!

[sunnybrook]

18. Lord I can't go back there

remember the song... I was actually born and raised in Indiana. My liberal best friend who lives in Fort Wayne is so disgusted that she did not even vote. She feels like her vote doesn't count.

[pop goes the weasel]

6. South Texas

Come hold the line while there is still a line to hold.

[Kazak]

24. There you go...

According to my Father-in-law, Laredo went 75% for Kerry, San Antonio, 60%, and Austin, 80%.

[mermaid]

39. Yep.

I live in Austin. We voted 80% for Kerry. Travis County, as a whole, went 70-30 for Kerry. and yet, the stupid Austin American-Fucking-Statesman, conservative RAG that it is, endorsed Fuckhead for Prez.

Now, what I wanna know is...IF...in a town that voted 80 percent for Kerry...we STILL can't have a local paper that ACTUALLY reflects OUR values...then where the FUCK is this so-called "liberal media" I keep hearing about?? :wtf:

[marlakay]

7. Howard Dean sent out a message today about Montana

said they voted in a democrat govenor. Anyone hear how that happened? That is a very red state. and its very beautiful there.

[sunnybrook]

20. it's also not very populated

how many evs do they have?

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Move to Northern Virgina

We're almost over the line to becoming a blue state, and the Northern Part of the state is a liberal stronghold.

[The Great Escape]

9. I Think Virginia Is A Good Choice...

I truly think it is close to being turned...Virginia has a good combination of rural and urban and medium sized areas. I think the I 81 corridor of VA is one of the most beautiful places in the world.

[rockymountaindem]

10. Colorado. Colorado.

You could move to Boulder and never know you were in a red state. Plus we just won back the whole state legislature!

[rlev1223]

15. Yeah...I forgot.

That I could do.

[sonicx]

11. move to a pink state like OH or FL

[Dob Bole]

13. I wouldn't wish my state on you this year....

[Bluebear]

19. Come to New England

Surround yourself with like-minded individuals and strengthen our Electoral college clout.

[sunnybrook]

21. sounds like the best plan so far

when I saw that Charles Schumer had won with such a huge margin I thought what I always do. Those are my people out there. My heart belongs in the east though I'm in Missouri right now.

[rlev1223]

22. I was born in Portland ME

Good place for cheap lobsters right off the boat. Got some relatives in
Brunswick.....I could do that.


Except iI saw Steve Forbes's GIGANTIC yacht take up almost half of Camden harbor once...that irritated me beyond reason.

[SaintLouisBlues]

23. St. Louis went 80% for Kerry

One of the best ratios of salary to cost-of-living anywhere.

The "Centro Historico" is coming on very strong, but you can still
buy awesome old buildings for cheap.

Now I'm motivated to find a link.

Here's a cool one:

"St. Louis has a look that's all its own. It has been described as eastern, southern, European and completely unique in the world. Red brick, cobblestone streets, terra cotta friezes and stained glass are part of the tapestry of St. Louis' amazing architectural heritage. And now, thanks to the addition of new attractions, including a Frank Lloyd Wright house (www.ebsworthpark.org) and the Tadao Ando-designed Pulitzer Foundation for the Arts (www.pulitzerarts.org), the St. Louis landscape has embraced the touch of architects from many eras.

How did this monumental city of stone and brick spring up in the middle of the country?..."

http://www.explorestlouis.com/visitors/architecture.asp

[quaoar]

26. New Orleans, La.

[LuminousX]

28. Move to a marginal state instead

Like Missouri, where a few good Blue Staters could honestly shift the balance.

Or, if moving doesn't suit you, create Missions and go to southern Red States to help the party and progressive organizations down there educate the voters.

[Buddyblazon]

31. Colorado....

We're shifting that way already...and we could use you guys.

Denver/Boulder area...not bad...and getting better. Not TOO big...not TOO small.

LOTS of sunshine...mild weather...the mountains...Red Rocks...a new expansion to the Art Museum. And getting more and more liberal every year...and Mayor Hickenlooper is a liberal...just started...believes that arts and cultures brings big business...and enjoys a 80+ approval rating. We just got the Salazar brothers yesterday...and passed more funding for the arts...and a massive expanse on light rail.

We'll go within the next 8 years...but we could use your help.

[Canuckelhead]

34. What we really need is a new country!

Who's with me?

[PotatoBoy]

36. Move to NW Indiana

NW Indiana is a bit more liberal than the rest of the state (Bloomington is also liberal).

[BamaGirl]

38. Oh Gawd, if you're volunteering to move, come here! Lol

I live in a very RW county in a very RW Bama lol. We can use all the help we can get!

[rlev1223]

41. Wow, even your post has a southern accent

I like that.....

[BamaGirl]

44. Lol, it's part of my charm ;) nt

[DjTj]

42. Northern Virginia!

A subway ride away from the great city of Washington, DC.

Look at that blue corner in the top middle!

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/VA/P/00/map.html

[Tweed]

43. Montana

You could do a lot for local races too. Less people, you have more power. Montana is beautiful too. Idaho is the same, I hear Bosie is a great town.