How To Deal With Gloaters

[Dogmudgeon]

Simple.

Congratulate them. Their side did a superb job.

They got out their voters. Mobilized every snake-handling one-room church and powerlifting gym in the Lower 48. Signed 'em up in the Grand Old Party as they baptized 'em in the Blood O' The Lamb. Kicked ass. Yes indeed.

Why am I so cheery about it? Because in my heart of hearts, I know that they cheated, lied, gamed and spun. And it will all come out.

There is no way they can blame us for any of their failures now. That last election -- Bush v Gore -- that was equivocal, but this one was definitive. (Not a landslide. Merely definitive.)

It's up to them now. Bill Clinton is four years gone and they've had everything at their command. They have even banished the complaints of illegitimacy.

And here's a list of some of the things they'll have to deal with:

• multi-trillion dollar deficit complex
• wartime breeding of international terrorism
• a new round of nuclear proliferation
• porus national borders, not so much for Mexicans looking for work as for terrorists looking for targets
• Veterans who have been neglected, abused, and now slimed by the Swifties
• a whole cohort of kids who are convinced they are about to be drafted to fight a war for oil
• rapid, destructive increases in the price of petroleum-based energy
• an ongoing climate change that could reshape the world within a decade
• a world that looks at George Bush as a buffoon, and with good cause
• atheism and anti-clericism reenergized, revivified, resurgent
• a new generation of journalists who won't bend over and "assume the position" for their Republican upperclassmen
• the destruction of the American technical and highly-skilled-labor class
• turning the entire population of gays and lesbians into victims, but not having the luxury of bludgeoning them with (non-existent) Civil Rights laws
• making sex a terrifying experience for young women again
• a hundred or more scandals that will break with the slightest mis-step on the part of Team Bush

And God help them if there really has been voting fraud, and even one clue comes out. Remember the scene in the new Lost In Space where the cannibalistic robot spiders go after the demonic Dr. Smith robot?

"Hey. You won. You got everything you wanted. Don't whine to me about how you're a victim. Exercise a little Personal Responsibility™, will ya?"

--bkl

[XanaDUer]

1. They should be proud.

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[Obviousman]

2. exactly!

I posted somewhere that in this election Americans gave the republicans all the rope they needed to hang themselves. With definite majorities in both houses now, there will be no one to blame but them. I was worried if kerry was elected he would be hit with all of this, and not make it to a second term. better to have this blow up in bush's face and show him as the disgrace he is

[deadparrot]

3. Yup, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I have a feeling it'll all start to unravel by the 2006 elections.

[LiberteToujours]

4. Knock their teeth out?

Sorry, I didn't get to actually reading more than the subject line. ;)

[gumby]

5. You forgot one thing:

They DON'T CARE about thier failures.

And since it's a One Partee State, who ya gonna call?

The "voters" have just been scammed out of the picture.

The "Judiciary?" hahahahaah

Maybe you don't understand fascism.

[Dogmudgeon]

8. But it's NOT Fascism

They want to have a pretense of Democracy. They depend on the Press to do their bidding, so they have to allow that Press to be free. They worship Free Enterprise, so they have to allow a certain amount of freedom so "information" can be bought and sold.

Don't call it Fascism. It's something new, something evil, and something very powerful. But like Fascism, it's something that will hang itself and slit its own throat on the drop from the gallows.

And there's plenty we can do.

--bkl

[Warpy]

6. I'm with you. I'm in ful passive aggressive mode today.

We know what Bush is. They don't. We know what Bush is planning to do to this country. They don't.

Within a year and a half, they'll be whining about how it's all gone so wrong. We won't. THEN we can tell them it's their own damn fault, that they voted for every disaster that has happened, because they didn't take the time and trouble to know what Bush is. And THEN we can tell them what to do about it.

Buyer's remorse can be a real bitch, and it's going to come swiftly after Chimpy starts his second four years. My guess is that a "limited" draft of "essential career occupations" will be rammed through Congress by the end of March, and be a full blown draft through the back door a year later. People who bought the "no draft" lie are going to be feeling incredibly betrayed.

And then we can get them.

[XanaDUer]

7. I agree with this, but I would move the timeline up about six months.

Not going to take too long for it to start falling apart.


First little crumbling around the edges, and then the whole thing is going to go "boom!" really fast.

And we'll be here to laugh. And point.

[Dogmudgeon]

9. Springtime for Bush

The cracks start about then.

We'll get an interregnum, a second honeymoon of about six months while Bush tries to play the part of Healer and Wise Man. And it may work for a while. I suspect Bush will enjoy ratings around 70% again for a few polling cycles.

That will last until Summer, at the latest.

There's also the scenario where the Ohio count certifies Kerry as the winner of the election. I think the odds are against it, but I'll be happy if it happens.

I have no real desire to laugh at anyone or to say "I told you so." I want to be there when the House of Mammon falls on the Pharasees. Someone will have to clean up the mess and bind the wounds of the injured. There will be about 50 million new liberals to "bring up to speed" when that happens.

That is what I'm waiting for.

--bkl

[XanaDUer]

10. I give it six months, too.

I may not do the pointing-and-laughing thing, but then again, I may.

Six months and then it's going to all go kaplooey.

Have any estimations of when * pushes through the draft?

Now, *that* will be interesting. Shock and awe?

[VPStoltz]

11. How to Deal with Gloaters

Your list, while illuminating to us, seems to be of no concern to those with "values." The wonderful writer, Wm. Greider, noted in an op-ed piece in the Seattle P.I. a week ago, that the Bush facade will surely fall some time during this next 4 years. It will be catastrophic and will wipe out this type of conservatism for a generation. BE PATIENT.

[Razoor]

12. they better not try to blame clinton

they had 4 years to turn the country around and they did nothing. I better not hear one freeper say something is still clintons fault.

[Digit]

13. I will just smile, and keep repeating that I know something they don't.

[Tsiyu]

14. This is what I'm telling the kids, thanks for this post

When they gloat, say, "Congratulations. You won. You get what you wanted.

"And you know what? It's a good thing Bush has to clean up this mess he made. It will build his character. I can just sit back and watch.

"Republicans don't care what Democrats have to say? Great! Just remember, when things go bad in the next four years, do not blame Clinton's wee-wee. Do not blame Kerry. Do not blame a Democratic controlled Congress. Do not blame a left-wing media."

If Rush and gang have no internal enemies in the US; if we "turn the other cheek," what the HELL will these people do for sport, I wanna know.

[Dogmudgeon]

15. They will turn on themselves

They always do.

First, the Empire will grow corrupt; then, intrigue will become their sport of choice. Finally, since all their plans will have been schemes for self-enrichment, they will fail, probably en masse.

I'd be happy except for the fact that too many innocent people will die in the wars they start.

--bkl

[Must_B_Free]

16. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered