Counting the Bodies

[donsu]

http://villagevoice.com/issues/0336/mondo3.php

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Iraq Body Count (iraqbodycount.net) reported that the number of civilian deaths in Iraq ranges from 6,113 to 7,830. Military.com reports that as of August 28 a total of 281 U.S. soldiers have been killed since the start of the invasion—that includes 143 since major fighting was declared "over" on May 1. The Iraq Coalition Casualty Count (lunaville.org/warcasualties/summary.aspx), based on tallies from Centcom, the Defense Department, and the British Ministry of Defence, shows that, as of August 27, 281 U.S. soldiers, 50 British soldiers, and two "other" coalition soldiers have been reported killed. The estimated wounded? 1,212.

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Al-Obaidi told Wanniski that "hundreds of our party's cadre" spent five weeks interviewing undertakers, hospital officials, and ordinary citizens in all of Iraq (except for what's controlled by the Kurds) and came up with a total figure of 37,137 civilians killed since the beginning of the invasion, 6,103 of them in Baghdad. Those figures, according to al-Obaidi, do not include members of unofficial militias, paramilitary groups, or Saddam's Fedayeen units.
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talk about mass graves
talk about grief and grieving
talk about orphans
yes, let's talk about the orphans we have made. the 'greatest country on earth' and our orphans. the bloody hands bushgang orphans.
(this being said with the deepest bitterness)

[G_j]

1. kick

[RichV]

2. Other sources?

Anybody seen this from AP or some other similar source? I'd like to send it around but know it will be dismissed if it comes from Village Voice or Truthout.org. They'll instantly be labeled biased and dismissed.

[donsu]

3. I got the link from BuzzFlash

nt

[G_j]

6. i've done a search

and can only find the same article posted at various places such as truthout and democrats.com.

Perhaps in the days to come someone else such as the Guardian will follow up on the story. According to the article Mohammad al-Obaidi lives in the UK.

(this was posted yesterday but I'm glad you did also. This is very important)

Imagine when you add the number of Iraqi soldiers killed to this!

[BeFree]

4. Bad news. Bad, bad, bad

We could say, "We told you so" but what good would that do now? Nobody likes know it alls... But we did know. This is known news to us... We tried to educate, we tried to inform and get people to think. We were successful with a few. We changed some minds. But it went ahead anyway; Without us.

It was like a Mack truck hurtling down the highway well beyond the legal speed limit, or, akin to a speeding hellbound train with the wicked all aboard shouting out their ill intentions and greedy wishes. We did what we could do without getting ourselves run over, enabling us to live another day.

I hope we never have to face such a spectacle again. But if we do, we will be stronger and have more people with us should such an awful American puke alert be sounded again.

Peace

[leftchick]

5. this is horrible...

and the public is in total denial about it. All of the faux/msrnc/cnn tv "news viewers" think it was "only a couple of thousand Iraqis that died" (I heard that over and over by some neocon on NPR) as if even that is acceptable. It is truly shameless what our country has done to these poor people and their children... :(