According to the media, the "moral values" folks elected chimpy

[yardwork]

So, let's imagine that the unaptly named moral values folks get everything they want. They overturn Roe v Wade, they recriminalize the few rights that GLBT people have gained, they turn back the Civil Rights movement, they restore Christian fundamentalist prayer to schools, they stick huge enormous models of the Ten Commandments in every courtroom in the country, they get the tiny bit of biology that is still taught in schools thrown out and Creationism on all the curricula (they've pretty much achieved this anyway), they ban a whole lot of books and force everybody to read Chick Tracts, they jail anyone who isn't a fundamentalist Christian, they make contraceptives illegal again....

I hope you're still with me.....

THEN WHAT? WHAT GOOD IS THAT GOING TO DO THEM?

Fundies have told me that "all the problems our country is facing are caused by God's anger that we've turned our backs on him blah blah blah."

SO THEY TURN BACK THE CLOCK. THEN WHAT? WILL IT FIX THEIR PROBLEMS? WILL IT SAVE THEIR JOBS? WILL IT STOP HURRICANES AND EARTHQUAKES AND DROUGHTS AND FOREST FIRES AND ICE STORMS? WILL IT REDUCE THE DEFICIT?

WILL WE WIN IN IRAQ BECAUSE WE RESTORE PRAYER TO SCHOOLS?

Answer me that, lurking freeper morans. What good will it do you?

[ogradda]

1. it tells me something sickening

about the moral values of a majority of this country.

[yardwork]

2. Yep. And something sickening about their inability to think, imo

What will happen when their God turns his back on them after they do everything their preachers told them to do?

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. What is with this "morals" shit anyway?

They hate gay people, don't want to pay taxes, and want to kick arab ass & get free oil. This is what they voted for, and it sure isn't "moral"

[ropi]

5. bah..

so redefine their morality... expose how lacking compassion they are...

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. Expose it to who, the media?

They seem to be the only ones that don't get it.

[yardwork]

12. My point exactly.

We aren't going to win this on logic or ethics. The morans don't care.

All they understand is what affects them personally. What's going to happen when they do everything they've been told to do, and none of it works? Will they still blame Clinton? That's going to be awfully old.

[ropi]

17. you're right...

they dont understand logic etc...but they do understand pictures..and they use those pictures to cast everyone who is against them as the most far removed from 'normal' (shudders at having used that term)...let's say middle ground as possible. so use their fringe persons against them.

these are ideas... agree or disagree..but generate dicussion... i dont want to be flamed for anything i write. tension is high around here...

[ropi]

13. if that's how it has to be

then expose it to them... they (the media) and those who lack compassion show anyone who disagrees with them in the worst light. if we have to cast all xians as fred phelps wanna-be's then we have to use him as they use the gay pride and NAMBLA talking points.

[Crystalrefuge]

19. Kick! Right on.

Hypocrasy has no limit for "Moral Christians" who will vote for a liar, hypocrite, fraud, murderer, war criminal and thief (yes, let's not forget that he rigged and stole the first election shall we).

Gay marriage is far more important to the social fiber of America than the fact that we have become a rogue state with a state controlled media and a imperial ambitions.

[Maple]

4. Well if you're talking about

'chick tracts' you've already slurped some of the kool-aid.

Mote in your own eye, etc.

[yardwork]

7. LOL! I know what Chick Tracts are because I'm educated on the right-wing

Believe me, there's no kool-aid here. I just believe in knowing my enemy.

[Maple]

11. There are nooooooo

'chick tracts'

And if you think there are...you are being overtaken by the Darkside.

[yardwork]

15. wtf are you talking about?

I'm talking about religious "moral" tracts written by a loon named Chick. They're famous. They attack people who are different in any respect from the extreme right-wing fundamentalist Christian view of reality.

What do you think I'm talking about?

[Maple]

16. Sure they are

Riiiiiight

[Crystalrefuge]

22. Here's the link if you can stand the hateful shit they serve.

http://www.chick.com/

There is also a parody site that I have tucked away somewhere. When I find it I'll post it for you.

These are cartoon books where gays, catholics, lesbians, Jews etc. are tossed into the fiery pits of hell by merciful Jesus. Aint it great to be on the winnin' side buckaroo?

[Crystalrefuge]

23. Here's the parody site.

You'll bust a gut laughing. Unfortunately the original thing isn't funny. It's sad that Jack Chick can produce such hateful garbage and that CHRISTIANS lap it up.
http://www.weirdcrap.com/chick/

[d_b]

6. Bullshit

Propaganda, Fear elected George Bush. Period.

[Lorien]

8. Just more corporate media spin. Fear trumped freedom

That is all.

[Must_B_Free]

10. Exactly

all this shit is fantasy - mind candy to lure a delusional base.

Thing is they'll gorge themselves, they'll get sick, but they'll never get the sweet out of it

[yardwork]

18. I'm glad that a couple people here understand my point

It's silly for Democrats to be afraid to even talk about the religious right-wing. It's like the kids in Harry Potter being afraid to say "Voldemort." Boo. We can't defeat the Republicans until we understand their weapon, and their weapon is a form of psychological warfare.

It can't be fought using the weapons of logic, kindness, or ethics.

[caber09]

14. GOD GUNS GAYS...

The election was tilted by religious zealots who fuck their altarboys, but are against gay marriage, who have never served the country, but love guns. Dying is the generation that saved the world, in charge are now the hippies/dodgers who became conservatives and the young who dont know what its like to sacrifice. We have become the religious fanatics our ancestors fled in Europe, we have become the zealots that were the Nazis, and the idolizers who were the Japanese...in a word after saving and changing the world, we have become the enemies weve defeated.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself...has become FEAR FEAR FEAR TERROR TERROR TERROR

America 2004:
male cheerleader=athlete,very macho, athlete =liberal pussy, not macho
intelligence = bad, ignorance= good
draft dodger - war hero, war hero- liberal whimp
druggy/alky= moral, combat vet, clean history= immoral
allies= saudi arabia vs allies= europe, canada, south korea etc
good on terror= love saudis weak on terror=never let saudis run usa

[Crystalrefuge]

20. You have hit the NUKE on the head!

Oops. sorry. there were no nukes, were there.

[yardwork]

21. I agree with everything you say

How can we get people to listen? Maybe people will listen when they see that things aren't working out as well as they hoped with chimpy in charge.

[flordehinojos]

24. What a real surprise it will be for all these "moral values" people when

they appear before the Lord, in the rapture, during the rapture, thereafter, or at any other time, and find out ... that they should have been paying more attention to their own lives, their own sinful values and that they should've been working on really squaring off their OWN moral values with true morality and working on keeping their own souls free from the turpitude of their own life's journey.

[caber09]

25. Can Someone Please Post My God Gays Guns Response as a Topic...

I dont have enough posts to do so yet, thanks in advance