I was feeling powerful again...now feeling shaky. just scanned CNN

[PretzelWarrior]

MSNBC, FoxNews to see what the aftermath of the concession speech, etc. was.

It is disturbing. DIsturbing to see my world so thoroughly rocked and still see the vacuous fake-smiling early morning talking heads pitter pattering about everything and acting like Bush won...end of story. They foreshadow ominous things when they discuss BUsh's great mandate. THe really scary thing was FOxNews and NeilCavuto program bashing, bashing, bashing exit polls. "WHO NEEDS 'EM" they say. Well, for one thing....we had this grand Idea we were gonna check results against exit polls and see if there was anything fishy. Well, we did jack shit and they more than likely stole the election. Now they want to make it that much easier for all elections to come by having no audit whatsoever by getting the pressure on to outlaw exit polling. THink of that.

In other news...the rest of the world has to deal with 4 more years of Bush so maybe they better reappraise their positions w/USA and get to know USA better. Obviously, they don't know what really makes us tick based on these elections and Bush ain't going away...so look for Bush to demand they start seeing things his way or else.

THere was also this guy on Neil Cavuto before the whole "exit polling" discussion. He's apparently some android from WABC and was just sickening in his stomping on the will of over 50 million AMericans. HE was saying BYE BYE TOM DASCHLE and saying the tone won't change in Washington. and that reaching across party lines is impossible. WHY? Because Bush was so treacherous and a complete prick during term one? NOOOO. Because Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton are loudmouth liberals who will scream and cry for everything and what they deserve is a reach across the aisle for a big slap.

I shouldn't be stunned, but I am. THey really are going in for the kill in this next 4 years. This is going to be a massive bloodletting.

I really don't know how to face up to this and I wonder how I can move forward and survive.

[MichaelHarris]

1. here is one answer

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=1937921&mesg_id=1937921

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1315279&mesg_id=1315279

[NewJeffCT]

2. They make no secret

Top Republicans make no secret of wanting this to be a one party state... so, we should not be surprised at outing covert operatives for political purposes (Plame, Khan); pro RW voting machines; etc, etc.

[The Flaming Red Head]

3. Those aren't fake smiles on those anchors

They are thrilled. They are the enemies of the American people. They make me want to puke. I hate them.

[SoCalDem]

4. State legislatures in all red states will be eliminating any references

to "recounts" in their laws.. Mark my words..

just as jebbie pulled the blinds on the "sunshine laws" that Florida once had, the republican controlled legislatures will be "taking care" of that pesky recount rule (if they have one)..

Vapor is impossible to count anyway, only without the laws, they cannot even be challenged in court over the LACK of a recount..

[Spiffarino]

5. Democracy is dead in the USA

Thanks, fundies. Our wonderful experiment with self-rule has ended.

[0007]

22. Democracy isn't dead yet! But it does need a big shot of oxygen.

[atreides1]

35. Not Only The Fundies

In Ohio it was the eldery and white evangelicals that helped to put Bush back into the WH.

So those who will suffer voted against their own interests, in terms of the 60 and over crowd, as for the evangelical vote, that shows that it isn't just the fundies.

Now I'm not a big fan of fundies, but all who voted for Bush are to be blamed.

So for those of you in Ohio, the next time an elderly person complains about the cost of healthcare or prescription medicine, ask them "did you vote for Bush", if they say yes, look them straight in the eye and tell them "it's your fault". Do the it if you hear an evangelist complain, and if they say yes, tell them "it's your fault".

We all need to do this, especially when we know the person voted for Bush.

I know I will.

[MSgt213]

6. I love this reaching out crap that's flying around. You know what their

idea of reaching out is? You do what I say and shut the fuck up with that liberal bull shit.

[PretzelWarrior]

7. and the pathetic part is the "W" toting fools who think they "won".

wow. are they in for a big surprise. you know what? I see a day when some of them run afoul of this newfound theocracy/fascist state. they will be like sheep to the slaughter wondering why big brutha GOP isn't protecting their hides since they done voted them in.

this will also occur when they see their business fail, their house get foreclosed on, their job disappear to be replaced by a shit wage service sector job. hooo boy. talk about values.

[MSgt213]

8. YES!!!! I tell my noncorporate not so rich republican friends this all

the time. All you have to do is open your eyes and SEE with them not just look on. You will find that the republicans care about and are in office to do the business of Big Business. Whatever bill they pass is going to have enough in it through words to make you think you are benefiting from it. But the reality will always be that they given Big Business what they want at your expense. The tent doesn't include you Mr and Mrs average American Republican.

[llmart]

12. This is exactly what it's going to take.....

Their "elation" will wear off when they have to go back to their drudgery jobs, if they have a job, and the economy gets worse and their sons and daughters get killed for their wars. I want it to get worse. That's what it'll take for these uneducated people who voted for him to see that he is not their friend. They think bush gives a shit about them and their little lives? How pathetic is that?

[gator_in_Ontario]

24. That is what is keeping me sane

the thought that 4 more years of * will drag the neo-con bible- thumping idiots into the 21st century!

[eataTREE]

32. It already occurred and didn't make a damn bit of difference.

The red states have already seen their businesses fail, their motgages foreclosed, and their jobs shipped off to China to be replaced by a career as a Walmart greeter. And they couldn't be more eager to vote for Bush. Why? Because if they didn't, gay people might get married.

For such a homophobic bunch of folks, they sure are eager to take it good and hard, right up the ass.

[skooooo]

38. If any of them "reach out" to me...

...I'll bite their arm off.

[American Tragedy]

9. TURN OFF THE FUCKIN TV

Trust me you will feel much better.

I haven't viewed a single minute of coverage since the Ohio ballots were being counted and I'm better off for it. Do not watch the concession speeches until you're finished grieving.

[Blue Gardener]

11. I'm with you

My anxiety level is high enough. I watched Shrek last night instead of the news. The only thing I've had on is the Weather Channel.

[liberalpress]

26. Check on a REAL President..

...the Third Season of "The West Wing" us now out on DVD!

[Delphinus]

20. Yep

Faux was already programmed out of my TV (as well as all the religious stations), and last night I programmed cnn and cnbc out too.

[jhain]

25. ditto

I tried to watch the concessions.
Smashed the television off about 60 seconds through Edwards.
Tried again a few mn later, SMASHED it off again a few minuted into Kerry.

Maybe I'll sell the thing.

[cubsfan forever]

31. Excellent advice!

TV will only make people more depressed and unable to get through the stages of grief. I feel SO much better that we have stopped watching the cable news whores! DU has kept me sane.

Professor 2

[aquart]

10. DO NOT WATCH.

Put a movie in the VCR if you need a tv on all the time (I do).

[PretzelWarrior]

14. believe me, I did it for a cold dose of reality...not due to a habit.

I was on here posting all night and being encouraged by a fighting spirit while my wife watched Discovery channel and HGTV. No election coverage.

As I said, I did it to get a sense of what is being doled out to the masses and was extremely shocked.

[RockaFowler]

15. The Movie

I watched the Day after Tomorrow last night. It almost gave me hope. I was just glad that I didn't watch the News Shows. I am done with all news programs except the Daily Show. I can laugh a little about the pathetic situation.
Someone told me yesterday that Christianity won. I thought we were fighting for Democracy.

[0007]

23. I watched Spartacus. junior was Cesar and we were the slaves

fighting for freedom and truth. Spartacus defeated Roman armies in southern Italy, but his forces were crushed at Lucania , where Spartacus was killed and many of his troops were crucified.

I think junior got some of his speeches from this film, because they talked about terror and either your with us or against us. Lots and lots of similarities.

[highplainsdem]

27. "Christianity won"? Faux Christianity won. Everyone & the planet lost.

[luaneryder]

16. TV "news" will only serve

to increase blood presure and make the heart have to work harder. I get all the news I need online and won't pay for the electricity to power TV "news" nor will I go to their websites.

[Jivenwail]

13. We no longer watch ANY news

We only watch "The Daily Show" and Weather Channel for our forecasts.
It's simply not worth it. You haven't gotten the truth for 4 years, what makes you think you will find it now? Sorry, I do not mean to be cruel, but one must adjust to the fascist state. If not one brave media moron came forward the last 4 to set things straight, what makes anyone think they will do so now?

[Sara Beverley]

17. Stop watching these idiots. Clear your brain and start thinking about

ways to fight back.

[dbt]

18. You make a great point about the exit polls, bransonfu.

Isn't it convenient about how "wrong" they were--especially in light of SoCalDemocrat's findings (so far) about how the audit-able voting machine results closely correlate with exit polls?

He/She also points out that the machines which leave no audit trails show results about five per cent higher for bu$h than the exit polls.

If somebody wanted to totally discredit exit polling--to make sure that it's never even considered again--wouldn't what just happened be exactly the way to do it?

Cheers,
:freak:
dbt

[PretzelWarrior]

19. yes. and if it comes from Fauxnews first..you can be pretty sure

it came from the WH as a bullet point to cover. So...the anxiousness with which they were jumping all over this and making unconditional points like: "Exit polls should be dumped"

Find it funny one of the guys on there was described as an EX-DEM Pollster. Go to hell, exdem pollster. Probably a reason they fired your ass.

[0007]

21. One word of advise. Stay away from all news sources for the next

week or so. Except for DU.

[Dez]

28. I haven't been watching much news,

I just don't care what they have to say. I only listen to AAR.

[PretzelWarrior]

29. I can pretty much deal with NPR, AAR, OPB (tv)

but after my brief foray into "REGULAR" Tv...I decided I need a break too.

[The Flaming Red Head]

30. Watch the financial news networks

They can't help but gloat and slip up every now and then. According to them Diebold is the most promising company around what with the success of the recent election and the presidency in their hip pocket and look at Halliburton's fortunes continue to rise.


I like to watch the gleeful bastards. This election had nothing to do with morals. NOTHING!

[HootieMcBoob]

33. Eliminate these "news" channels

You can do this if you have DirecTV and probably if you have Dish TV too.

I already eliminated Fox a long time ago from my channel selection, now I'm going to get rid of CNN and MSNBC. I just do not want to see them anymore. I can't stand to look at them, they make me feel ill.

I'll watch NWI and the news from Canada the BBC and other parts of the world and when INdTV (Gore's new channel) starts up I'll watch that for news.

CNN, FOX and MSNBC advertisers can say goodbye to my families dollars. I suggest everyone else do the same. I don't give a shit about anything they say or do, they do not represent me.

[tibbiit]

34. TUrn that SHIT OFF FOR GOOD!

I turned off cable news channels the day saddam's statue was pulled down. I have not missed it one moment.

TURN THAT SHIT OFF FOR GOOD!
I promise you will NEVER miss it!
Dont pollute your "beautiful" mind with their propaganda.
tib

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

36. It makes no sense to watch it even

I never plan to see any of those a-hole's faces again. I turned it off in disgust when the Iraq war started because they acted so cheer-leader-like and immature and clueless about how serious war is.

I didn't miss anything, because it's like you watch the TV "news" and you feel confused, then you start reading different viewpoints on the internet and a more accurate picture of what's actually going on starts to emerge.

I decided yesterday I never want to see one more second of propaganda. We just need a few people like mediamatters.org, to watch it for us and report on what they say, and the rest of us can keep our minds clear and find out what reality is.

[librechik]

37. Now that * is a lame duck, they don't need to kiss his ass

Look for many many people in the press to stop worrying so much about "access." There will be many "naked emperor" stories. Remember all those issues they were frantically putting off until after the election? Thise will all come home to roost.

Don't worry, this will get good soon!

[leftofthedial]

39. we need paper ballots

nothing short of that, not exit polls, not nothing, will ensure a clean election.