Exit Polls...do I understand it correctly that

[Puglover]

historically they are somewhat accurate? And that the purpose of them is to somewhat check and balance the results of an election. Buzzflash has a CNN model of the Ohio exit polls at 105am and then the changed version the next morning. The difference is striking. Im just wondering if that really means alot. Forgive my ignorance.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. It could mean everything.

But if it does, that is a story I fear we will never hear.

[are_we_united_yet]

2. I think

SoCalDem's analysis was extremely interesting. He observed the only voting that had an unexplainable 5 point disparity between exit polls and actuals were ones with E-voting and no paper trail.

It's hard not to be suspicious or not want more assurance of voting integrity. Especially if one state is 'Governed' by *'s brother.

[Puglover]

4. Jesus..if that is the case

it is just so FUCKING frustrating that noone mainstream is talking about it.

[are_we_united_yet]

6. Mainstream media

has always been complicitous in ignoring the facts. That is why you and I are here trying to get at truth.

[vincent_vega_lives]

7. Sure they are...

Russert for one mentioned that when he examined the exit poll samples they were very skewed towards women and minorities. Alarmed that 57% of those polled were women.

Poor polling samples results in poor poll data.

[On the Road]

13. It Could be That Women

were much more likely to respond to an exit pollster. That would account for the disparity and the need to reweight the sample.

[DUreader]

14. In every exit poll? Or just the heavily electronic voting states

?

[vincent_vega_lives]

16. I think it was a cumulative total for the

"battleground states".

[DUreader]

19. got any links?

otherwise what is your point?

[vincent_vega_lives]

20. THE POINT

The use of the polling data may have been flawed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23580-2004Nov3.html

[DUreader]

21. May be, but the WP is definitely flawed.

[shoopnyc123]

10. Let's work, it'll come out soon...

[dbt]

3. Consider this, then:

Exit polls, if done correctly, are accurate. This is why the bu$h regime wants them killed, dispatched, discredited to the point where they are never even MENTIONED again.

What better way to off the exit polls than to present them as being wrong--with the help of a few hundred rigged voting machines?

From Walden O'Dell, CEO of Diebold in August '03: "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

:freak:
dbt

PS: The best place to hide something--especially something BIG--is right out in the open.

[aquart]

5. I place this conditional curse on Wally O'Dell:

To Wally O'Dell: May the evil you do come back to you, from every place it has gone, from every one it has harmed.

[are_we_united_yet]

8. You can almost hear Ed Gillespie spinning it now:

(snivelling fake patriot voice) What Walden O'Dell said was and I quote "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." He didn't say George W Bush he said the president which means he could of been speaking to John Kerry.


Naturally our (DU's) response would be: STFU Ed.

[morgan2]

9. ya i noticed that last night

I was telling my friend all night that it looks like ohio will go to kerry, because the exit polls showed him leading in both the male and female vote overall in Ohio.

[Spider Jerusalem]

11. I rather suspect...

that the exit polling was skewed by GOP voters LYING and saying they voted Democratic in hopes that good Dem exit polling numbers would depress Democratic GOTV efforts.

[KittyWampus]

17. Then Why Only In Places With Paperless E-Voting?

[libbygurl]

12. BBC correspondent (American) Greg Palast points out this discrepancy

as strong evidence of vote count fraud! He's studied elections and says this divergence between exit polls and votes is ABNORMAL.

Now what can we do about it?

Kerry should not have conceded so soon!

[edhopper]

15. The site won't let me post right now

but I have a theory on how they stole Ohio I hope to post soon.

[UNIXcock]

18. Sorry, I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread, so here goes again

... exit polls are generally accurate, what many folks fail to remember is they're a relatively accurate stratified sample of the population of that particular precinct (or east-coast precincts in this case). When Drudge released the the early exit-poll info that our guy was leading, is was a sample of heavily populated liberal county precincts where we would expect to be in a comfortable lead.

... Once the hubbub hit the Internet, you'll notice Drudge didn't report any longer. Why? Because if they showed an accurate sampling it would have started showing * trends as the polls opened across the mid-west and red bible-belt states.